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Marc hid the HM's true colours.
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Star_Bright
07-07-2015
Originally Posted by Sasparella:
“No he didn't, he actually told you what they were all like, you just chose not to believe him. Now he's gone, and you've stopped fixating on him, you're starting to see what he was actually saying is true, you just don't want to admit he did because of your dislike of him.”

This ALL day!
patsylimerick
07-07-2015
Originally Posted by connor the judg:
“Marc told us but, we never got to see it as he wanted (and got) all the attention on him.”

Yes we DID. We saw Danny, Chloe, Jack and Christian bitching and scheming; we saw Danny getting aggressive and vicious with lots of hms - not just Marc (harriet, anyone?). We saw Chloe repeatedly try to start arguments by twisting what had been said after she'd run off in tears.

Because most of their nastiness was aimed at Marc, those who had taken an instant dislike to Marc because of his STD comment and never gave him a chance after that simply ignored the evidence of their own eyes in every single interaction involving him after that and put the blame solely on him.
Sasparella
07-07-2015
Originally Posted by patsylimerick:
“OP - what you've written about Choe, Jack, Danny etc. is what many of us - those of us not BLINDED by our feelings towards Marc - have been saying on here for weeks; from the very beginning.”

Exactly, and all we got back was, "you're talking rubbish, you're an obssessive Marc fan you are".
MissDeeBlue
07-07-2015
Originally Posted by connor the judg:
“Marc told us but, we never got to see it as he wanted (and got) all the attention on him.”

Absolutely right
The only spotlight the other HMs got whilst Marc was in house was via the bounce back from his 'swallowed a torch' smile

Only now, the cameras are showing the others personalities, because only now, the directors realise there are others in there, and IF others were featured it was almost always connected to Marc (by whatever degree of separation)
patsylimerick
07-07-2015
Originally Posted by MissDeeBlue:
“Absolutely right
The only spotlight the other HMs got whilst Marc was in house was via the bounce back from his 'swallowed a torch' smile

Only now, the cameras are showing the others personalities, because only now, the directors realise there are others in there, and IF others were featured it was almost always connected to Marc (by whatever degree of separation)”

This is just NOT true. If it was, I wouldn't have decided Chloe was a conniving cow, Jack a moany bitch and Danny an aggressive, misogynistic arsehole a couple of weeks in.
Sasparella
07-07-2015
Originally Posted by connor the judg:
“Marc told us but, we never got to see it as he wanted (and got) all the attention on him.”

No, you didn't see it because you weren't looking closely enough, I knew what a lot of them were like before Marc even went in, I didn't even like Marc very much for his first week in, but I always give them a week or two to settle in before I make my mind up because nerves can often make someone seem more irritating than they are, or if they are playing a game they usually start to drop their guard a little by that time. I finally got Marc after his chat to Jade in the bathroom, and she got him too after that. From then on in he was quite open in the DR about deliberately wumming them to get them out of their duvets, and cliches, and "we're just a happy family" fakeness.
haphash
07-07-2015
Originally Posted by patsylimerick:
“This is just NOT true. If it was, I wouldn't have decided Chloe was a conniving cow, Jack a moany bitch and Danny an aggressive, misogynistic arsehole a couple of weeks in.”

You forgot Cristian scared of women touching his leg
sorcha_healy27
07-07-2015
Originally Posted by Monkey Tennis:
“I get that some people don't like Marc but this is a bit of a stretch even for here, no?

Basically you're blaming Marc for your personal inability to form accurate judgements on the other HM's because in your opinion, he being himself, 'hid' this from you.

That's on you, not him, surely.

For me, the characters of most of them are pretty easy to work out, pretty early on. It was fairly clear what most of them were like well before Big Marc even set foot in the house.”

Exactly.well said.
Lurifax
07-07-2015
Originally Posted by sorcha_healy27:
“Exactly.well said.”

Yes - and I really didn't care for Marc and his eyebrow pencil. But I'm out of his age demographic
haphash
07-07-2015
So we were so distracted by Marc's lack of pants that we couldn't fathom the others out - thanks for pointing that out
jp761
07-07-2015
Originally Posted by Sasparella:
“No he didn't, he actually told you what they were all like, you just chose not to believe him. Now he's gone, and you've stopped fixating on him, you're starting to see what he was actually saying is true, you just don't want to admit he did because of your dislike of him.”

He said he said he said. Funny enough some people have there own thoughts on housemates not what HE Marc spouted out about other housemates.. ( also himself a housemate in a game show.. ) funny coincidence that. Who made him the oracle.. himself I think. Clever game play though while it lasted. Obviously a fair amount of public saw through it hence he was evicted.

Also i've made a more detailed post in this thread. Anyone is welcome to explain why what I said in that post is wrong.
Heatherbell
07-07-2015
He outed the lot of them from just pushing their buttons .
His only problem was that in his desire to give people the benefit of the doubt he overlooked their abuse of him and every day was a clean slate for them , while THEY stored up every fart and burp of his to whine about him .
A perfect example was him telling BB that Danny yelling in his face and threatening him was no big deal, just lads stuff etc . How many times did we see trashleen literally cry in the DR that Marc was "upsetting her " , in her attempt to have him ejected . They ALL moaned about him in the DR endlessly trying to get him binned . Yet he took their abuse on the chin, like a man , unlike pinocchio and his unmerry clique .
So yes, he totally unmasked them in the end .
Flowes
07-07-2015
Originally Posted by qwerty_1234:
“Blimey, all these "true colours" flying around - the place will be looking like a Dulux advert.”

It's okay, Marc hid them
Gaz22
07-07-2015
Originally Posted by Heatherbell:
“A perfect example was him telling BB that Danny yelling in his face and threatening him was no big deal, just lads stuff etc . How many times did we see trashleen literally cry in the DR that Marc was "upsetting her " , in her attempt to have him ejected . They ALL moaned about him in the DR endlessly trying to get him binned.”

That's actually a really good point. Marc even said specifically that BB asked him if he was okay. Almost a hint-hint of potentially stomping down on Danny but Marc, as you said, laughed it off as lads stuff. A few of them would have jumped at that chance to get Marc out if the roles were reversed.
trevor tiger
07-07-2015
Originally Posted by Gaz22:
“That's actually a really good point. Marc even said specifically that BB asked him if he was okay. Almost a hint-hint of potentially stomping down on Danny but Marc, as you said, laughed it off as lads stuff. A few of them would have jumped at that chance to get Marc out if the roles were reversed.”

Yes I noticed he said this in his interview with Emma after his eviction. She pointed out about Danny getting right in his face and he dismissed immediately as just lad's stuff. It would have been the easiest thing ever for him to put Danny in a bad light here but it didn't enter his head.

He may have enjoyed being a WUM but he was actually the least one playing a game in there
patricia50
07-07-2015
I agree to a certain extent with the OP. NoMarc was so overbearing that even if he had been right in what he said about every HM you didn't get the chance to see them and make your own judgements on them because he dominated the whole time. It is only now with the disgusting Helen and him gone that we are seeing them and forming our own opinions. I feel sorry for all of them in a way because their experience has been marred by him and the "legends"
patsylimerick
07-07-2015
Originally Posted by patricia50:
“I agree to a certain extent with the OP. NoMarc was so overbearing that even if he had been right in what he said about every HM you didn't get the chance to see them and make your own judgements on them because he dominated the whole time. It is only now with the disgusting Helen and him gone that we are seeing them and forming our own opinions. I feel sorry for all of them in a way because their experience has been marred by him and the "legends"”

Who is this 'we' you're talking about? Because I, and many others, had the measure of Danny, Chloe, Jack and Christian before Marc arrived; never mind after they left. Are you (and others) just not reading the posts in this thread?
Heatherbell
07-07-2015
Originally Posted by trevor tiger:
“Yes I noticed he said this in his interview with Emma after his eviction. She pointed out about Danny getting right in his face and he dismissed immediately as just lad's stuff. It would have been the easiest thing ever for him to put Danny in a bad light here but it didn't enter his head.

He may have enjoyed being a WUM but he was actually the least one playing a game in there ”

Yep , he could've had pinocchio thrown out for all that aggression , no doubt in my mind on that . The fact that he didn't shows the man he is . He might be small in height but is a giant compared to the violent lying bum kissing builder and his wee gang .
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