Nick is such a weakling! Its funny and infuriating at the same time. He is like the epitome of every kid in PE class who always gets picked last. If him and joel were in the same class even joel would be picked before nick.
Nick takes a stand against Harry vid
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Originally Posted by B L Zeebub:
“Maybe he'll get the courage to stand up for her when she's in the right, now, and stop using her for his 'poor Nick' storyline.
”
“Maybe he'll get the courage to stand up for her when she's in the right, now, and stop using her for his 'poor Nick' storyline.
”
As much as I would have agreed with this *full disclosure* because I can't stand Nick, I think it's gone beyond that now and if Harry was giving him some relevance initially in this mutually toxic relationship, I don't see it anymore. Nick is out of his depth and it is really 'poor Nick' now.
Originally Posted by PercyBysshe:
“He was attracted to her. He gradually realised that she is a monster. He has been gradually trying to detach himself from the monster.”
“He was attracted to her. He gradually realised that she is a monster. He has been gradually trying to detach himself from the monster.”
I think "monster" is a bit harsh
I'd like to see the run up to it all but to me that's Nick mugging Harry off again. They had an argument, Harry has accepted she was in the wrong but Nick has to take it further and move beds to emphasise Harry is a pain again, it's exactly the same as when he mugs her off behind her back to the others when she leaves the room.
I also now think that since Nick is in the final he's now ditching Harry to try and improve his chances of winning. Guy has no loyalty.
I also now think that since Nick is in the final he's now ditching Harry to try and improve his chances of winning. Guy has no loyalty.
Originally Posted by Warp:
“I'd like to see the run up to it all but to me that's Nick mugging Harry off again. They had an argument, Harry has accepted she was in the wrong but Nick has to take it further and move beds to emphasise Harry is a pain again, it's exactly the same as when he mugs her off behind her back to the others when she leaves the room.
I also now think that since Nick is in the final he's now ditching Harry to try and improve his chances of winning. Guy has no loyalty.”
“I'd like to see the run up to it all but to me that's Nick mugging Harry off again. They had an argument, Harry has accepted she was in the wrong but Nick has to take it further and move beds to emphasise Harry is a pain again, it's exactly the same as when he mugs her off behind her back to the others when she leaves the room.
I also now think that since Nick is in the final he's now ditching Harry to try and improve his chances of winning. Guy has no loyalty.”
I agree.
I do wish she would just leave him to sulk, though.
Wonder whether we'll see her apology. Probably not. It might make her seem too reasonable.
Originally Posted by Penny Crayon:
“I'm seriously puzzled that people defend her.
I really don't get it at all. She's a manipulative, nasty woman.
Don't like her at all. She creeps me out.”
“I'm seriously puzzled that people defend her.
I really don't get it at all. She's a manipulative, nasty woman.
Don't like her at all. She creeps me out.”
They're both as bad as each other, TBH they deserve one another.
Originally Posted by Warp:
“I'd like to see the run up to it all but to me that's Nick mugging Harry off again. They had an argument, Harry has accepted she was in the wrong but Nick has to take it further and move beds to emphasise Harry is a pain again, it's exactly the same as when he mugs her off behind her back to the others when she leaves the room.
I also now think that since Nick is in the final he's now ditching Harry to try and improve his chances of winning. Guy has no loyalty.”
“I'd like to see the run up to it all but to me that's Nick mugging Harry off again. They had an argument, Harry has accepted she was in the wrong but Nick has to take it further and move beds to emphasise Harry is a pain again, it's exactly the same as when he mugs her off behind her back to the others when she leaves the room.
I also now think that since Nick is in the final he's now ditching Harry to try and improve his chances of winning. Guy has no loyalty.”
They didn't just have an argument. She took offence when he laughed off their task, and she sulked and punished him all day and was an absolute nightmare. Then she started on Jack and went out of her way to wind him up. She then expects to be able to say sorry and for everyone to be fine with it.
This is exactly what abusers do...a cycle of abuse, remorse and short periods of harmony, until the whole thing starts again.
Originally Posted by vald:
“They didn't just have an argument. She took offence when he laughed off their task, and she sulked and punished him all day and was an absolute nightmare. Then she started on Jack and went out of her way to wind him up. She then expects to be able to say sorry and for everyone to be fine with it.
This is exactly what abusers do...a cycle of abuse, remorse and short periods of harmony, until the whole thing starts again.”
“They didn't just have an argument. She took offence when he laughed off their task, and she sulked and punished him all day and was an absolute nightmare. Then she started on Jack and went out of her way to wind him up. She then expects to be able to say sorry and for everyone to be fine with it.
This is exactly what abusers do...a cycle of abuse, remorse and short periods of harmony, until the whole thing starts again.”
He didn't laugh off their task he purposefully gloated and said he was free, once again suggesting Harry was an abusive partner. Harry has done nothing but look after nick, cleaning his hair, covering his modesty when he wakes up with morning wood, giving him cuddles but apparently all that is a bad thing and Harry is abusing him >.<
Originally Posted by Warp:
“I'd like to see the run up to it all but to me that's Nick mugging Harry off again. They had an argument, Harry has accepted she was in the wrong but Nick has to take it further and move beds to emphasise Harry is a pain again, it's exactly the same as when he mugs her off behind her back to the others when she leaves the room.
I also now think that since Nick is in the final he's now ditching Harry to try and improve his chances of winning. Guy has no loyalty.”
“I'd like to see the run up to it all but to me that's Nick mugging Harry off again. They had an argument, Harry has accepted she was in the wrong but Nick has to take it further and move beds to emphasise Harry is a pain again, it's exactly the same as when he mugs her off behind her back to the others when she leaves the room.
I also now think that since Nick is in the final he's now ditching Harry to try and improve his chances of winning. Guy has no loyalty.”
So would I...........maybe she had gone off on her usual rant and rave before coming to the conclusion that she was wrong.....saying sorry and repeating the cycle won't always make it right, it does feel like there is a sharp intake of breath waiting for her (and inevitably she will, to rare up again)...maybe he wants to get off that merry-go-round for a night , why can she not take a step back and understand that others need space just as much as she demands and creates merry hell over if she feels she isn't getting it..I really don't think she thinks beyond herself and demands every one dance around her moods and demands and yet has zero understanding that someone else on occasion needs the same, just because they don't punch walls doesn't make it any less valid.
Her spiteful parting shot saying that it was no skin off her nose, when it very clearly was, along with telling him he could not share her bed again is clearly telling him that he should accept an apology and put up with the histrionics and also do what she says otherwise he pays the consequences.
Originally Posted by fifitrixibelle:
“So would I...........maybe she had gone off on her usual rant and rave before coming to the conclusion that she was wrong.....saying sorry and repeating the cycle won't always make it right, it does feel like there is a sharp intake of breath waiting for her (and inevitably she will, to rare up again)...maybe he wants to get off that merry-go-round for a night , why can she not take a step back and understand that others need space just as much as she demands and creates merry hell over if she feels she isn't getting it..I really don't think she thinks beyond herself and demands every one dance around her moods and demands and yet has zero understanding that someone else on occasion needs the same, just because they don't punch walls doesn't make it any less valid.
Her spiteful parting shot saying that it was no skin off her nose, when it very clearly was, along with telling him he could not share her bed again is clearly telling him that he should accept an apology and put up with the histrionics and also do what she says otherwise he pays the consequences.”
“So would I...........maybe she had gone off on her usual rant and rave before coming to the conclusion that she was wrong.....saying sorry and repeating the cycle won't always make it right, it does feel like there is a sharp intake of breath waiting for her (and inevitably she will, to rare up again)...maybe he wants to get off that merry-go-round for a night , why can she not take a step back and understand that others need space just as much as she demands and creates merry hell over if she feels she isn't getting it..I really don't think she thinks beyond herself and demands every one dance around her moods and demands and yet has zero understanding that someone else on occasion needs the same, just because they don't punch walls doesn't make it any less valid.
Her spiteful parting shot saying that it was no skin off her nose, when it very clearly was, along with telling him he could not share her bed again is clearly telling him that he should accept an apology and put up with the histrionics and also do what she says otherwise he pays the consequences.”
Equally it could be Nick ditching Harry as part as his plan since he's now in the final and no longer needs her and so confirms Harry's paranoia about the way Nick slags her off every second when she's not around.
Originally Posted by fifitrixibelle:
“So would I...........maybe she had gone off on her usual rant and rave before coming to the conclusion that she was wrong.....saying sorry and repeating the cycle won't always make it right, it does feel like there is a sharp intake of breath waiting for her (and inevitably she will, to rare up again)...maybe he wants to get off that merry-go-round for a night , why can she not take a step back and understand that others need space just as much as she demands and creates merry hell over if she feels she isn't getting it..I really don't think she thinks beyond herself and demands every one dance around her moods and demands and yet has zero understanding that someone else on occasion needs the same, just because they don't punch walls doesn't make it any less valid.
Her spiteful parting shot saying that it was no skin off her nose, when it very clearly was, along with telling him he could not share her bed again is clearly telling him that he should accept an apology and put up with the histrionics and also do what she says otherwise he pays the consequences.”
“So would I...........maybe she had gone off on her usual rant and rave before coming to the conclusion that she was wrong.....saying sorry and repeating the cycle won't always make it right, it does feel like there is a sharp intake of breath waiting for her (and inevitably she will, to rare up again)...maybe he wants to get off that merry-go-round for a night , why can she not take a step back and understand that others need space just as much as she demands and creates merry hell over if she feels she isn't getting it..I really don't think she thinks beyond herself and demands every one dance around her moods and demands and yet has zero understanding that someone else on occasion needs the same, just because they don't punch walls doesn't make it any less valid.
Her spiteful parting shot saying that it was no skin off her nose, when it very clearly was, along with telling him he could not share her bed again is clearly telling him that he should accept an apology and put up with the histrionics and also do what she says otherwise he pays the consequences.”
Great post. She is completely blind to the feelings and needs of others.
Originally Posted by Warp:
“Equally it could be Nick ditching Harry as part as his plan since he's now in the final and no longer needs her and so confirms Harry's paranoia about the way Nick slags her off every second when she's not around.”
“Equally it could be Nick ditching Harry as part as his plan since he's now in the final and no longer needs her and so confirms Harry's paranoia about the way Nick slags her off every second when she's not around.”
Possibly, though I don't doubt for a second that she equally made a bee-line for him and the 'original's' whilst giving Sam and Simon a tongue lashing for her own gainful reasons - they both 'used' each other and I still don't consider those kind of f*cked up mind games she plays as any thing other than her and I think it is really unpleasant irrespective if the person it is aimed at is disliked.
I don't see that Nick has slagged her off at every opportunity either.....I have seen him many times try and rationalise her outbursts and behaviour, again that might be for his own cunning reasons, and if he has been slagging her off then he should keep his distance and she should respect that.
Originally Posted by vald:
“They didn't just have an argument. She took offence when he laughed off their task, and she sulked and punished him all day and was an absolute nightmare. Then she started on Jack and went out of her way to wind him up. She then expects to be able to say sorry and for everyone to be fine with it.
This is exactly what abusers do...a cycle of abuse, remorse and short periods of harmony, until the whole thing starts again.”
“They didn't just have an argument. She took offence when he laughed off their task, and she sulked and punished him all day and was an absolute nightmare. Then she started on Jack and went out of her way to wind him up. She then expects to be able to say sorry and for everyone to be fine with it.
This is exactly what abusers do...a cycle of abuse, remorse and short periods of harmony, until the whole thing starts again.”
CORRECT!
Originally Posted by Warp:
“He didn't laugh off their task he purposefully gloated and said he was free, once again suggesting Harry was an abusive partner. Harry has done nothing but look after nick, cleaning his hair, covering his modesty when he wakes up with morning wood, giving him cuddles but apparently all that is a bad thing and Harry is abusing him >.<”
“He didn't laugh off their task he purposefully gloated and said he was free, once again suggesting Harry was an abusive partner. Harry has done nothing but look after nick, cleaning his hair, covering his modesty when he wakes up with morning wood, giving him cuddles but apparently all that is a bad thing and Harry is abusing him >.<”
The toxic girlfriend I had was just like that - showered me with gifts, did all my cleaning, spent hours cooking for me, washed me...(that wasn't why I liked her) and believe me it wasn't worth it, and in no way compensated for what she put me through. I tried everything with her, from reassurance, tolerance, trying to talk things through, tough love...nothing worked. When she flipped she just flipped, and it could have been for anything. She had a deep-rooted need to do it, and go through all the stages of coming out of it.
I'm not saying Harry's the same, it could be the unique stresses of the house bringing it out in her, and Nick has made some big mistakes imo, but I'm seeing increasing signs from what they're showing us that she may well be.
Now maybe the right man could deal with it, maybe the right man could minimise it or solve things in a way I couldn't. (In the case of my ex I think only a professional could start to deal with her underlying issue). But my very strong advice to Nick would be, at this point in BB, now is not the time to find out - wait until afterwards, and hope she's evicted on Friday for both your sakes.
Originally Posted by erin_p:
“seems she is still in a mood today
12.58pm: Joel was sitting near Harry and Nick on the sofa and Harry told him to stop being a third wheel and "go away".”
“seems she is still in a mood today
12.58pm: Joel was sitting near Harry and Nick on the sofa and Harry told him to stop being a third wheel and "go away".”
DO remember that twitters are ONE line and are not accurately giving an account of conversations or what has been going on / discussed.
Joel constantly grills people with questions. I'd be regularly asking him to get lost too.
He sits and stares, its creepy.
Originally Posted by B L Zeebub:
“Nick is in a different bed.
Danny comes in and questions why.
Nick says that he can't stand the arguing anymore.
Danny says that this will make it worse, but he understands Nick's reasons.
Harry comes in and asks Nick why he is in a different bed.
Nick says he doesn't want to argue anymore.
Harry says that she has apologised and admitted that she is the wrong and he is right, so why would they argue.
Nick insists that he doesn't want to argue and that it is only for one night.
Harry then tries every trick in the book to guilt him into coming back into their bed.
Nick stays in the other bed.”
“Nick is in a different bed.
Danny comes in and questions why.
Nick says that he can't stand the arguing anymore.
Danny says that this will make it worse, but he understands Nick's reasons.
Harry comes in and asks Nick why he is in a different bed.
Nick says he doesn't want to argue anymore.
Harry says that she has apologised and admitted that she is the wrong and he is right, so why would they argue.
Nick insists that he doesn't want to argue and that it is only for one night.
Harry then tries every trick in the book to guilt him into coming back into their bed.
Nick stays in the other bed.”
biased. Nick plays this game regularly for sympathy. WHY did they argue? because he's been slagging her off again ? because he takes everyone's side against her? Because he tells everyone even big brother thinks he needs a restraining order......then laughs it up mocking harry? then runs for mommy booby cuddles and expects all to be forgiven.
Nick has all the power and he always has. Harry is not the controller in the relationship, its been nick from the start. Even harry saying NO is ignored as he crawled INTO her housecoat that first time she wanted privacy because she was upset in Bathroom a few weeks ago.
He follows her around until she relents.
Doesnt anyone watch the show and the clips?
Nick plays this victim routine then crawls in bed with her or goes and grovels a few hours later. BUT only if they are alone, he NEVER does this routine with other HMs present.
Originally Posted by PercyBysshe:
“God she's scary.”
“God she's scary.
”
Nick's parents must be pulling their hair out.
Can someone remind Harry that Nick is not a client who has paid to be dominated.
(I wonder if Harry knew that was a millionaires son before she entered the house?)
Originally Posted by bbcrzy:
“DO remember that twitters are ONE line and are not accurately giving an account of conversations or what has been going on / discussed.
Joel constantly grills people with questions. I'd be regularly asking him to get lost too.
He sits and stares, its creepy.”
“DO remember that twitters are ONE line and are not accurately giving an account of conversations or what has been going on / discussed.
Joel constantly grills people with questions. I'd be regularly asking him to get lost too.
He sits and stares, its creepy.”
Hmmm, imagine Harry (she who rants and raves and 'HATES' being told what to do) being told that?............he is in a communal part of the house (I know it all is)...but if you want to exclude others and wrap yourself around another like Japanese Knotweed then slink of back to the under covers of the manky duvet...if Joel came and got into bed with them
, then I might agree he would be a third wheel....otherwise she really needs to wind her neck in.
Originally Posted by Warp:
“I'd like to see the run up to it all but to me that's Nick mugging Harry off again. They had an argument, Harry has accepted she was in the wrong but Nick has to take it further and move beds to emphasise Harry is a pain again, it's exactly the same as when he mugs her off behind her back to the others when she leaves the room.
I also now think that since Nick is in the final he's now ditching Harry to try and improve his chances of winning. Guy has no loyalty.”
“I'd like to see the run up to it all but to me that's Nick mugging Harry off again. They had an argument, Harry has accepted she was in the wrong but Nick has to take it further and move beds to emphasise Harry is a pain again, it's exactly the same as when he mugs her off behind her back to the others when she leaves the room.
I also now think that since Nick is in the final he's now ditching Harry to try and improve his chances of winning. Guy has no loyalty.”
This ^ ^^^^
thank you for seeing things clearly. I always write my response to toppost then read others comments. you've brightened up my day as i've had a lot of sympathy for how harry has been portrayed on the show.
I would have loved to see all her conversations about animals and her pets with John McCrickric. He picked her for best employee and we barely saw her during the task....until the end when the Hotelworkers decided they didnt want Harry as conceirge and refused to listen to her. The daily show of course edits this as Harry stropping off.
Originally Posted by bbcrzy:
“biased. Nick plays this game regularly for sympathy. WHY did they argue? because he's been slagging her off again ? because he takes everyone's side against her? Because he tells everyone even big brother thinks he needs a restraining order......then laughs it up mocking harry? then runs for mommy booby cuddles and expects all to be forgiven.
Nick has all the power and he always has. Harry is not the controller in the relationship, its been nick from the start. Even harry saying NO is ignored as he crawled INTO her housecoat that first time she wanted privacy because she was upset in Bathroom a few weeks ago.
He follows her around until she relents.
Doesnt anyone watch the show and the clips?
Nick plays this victim routine then crawls in bed with her or goes and grovels a few hours later. BUT only if they are alone, he NEVER does this routine with other HMs present.”
“biased. Nick plays this game regularly for sympathy. WHY did they argue? because he's been slagging her off again ? because he takes everyone's side against her? Because he tells everyone even big brother thinks he needs a restraining order......then laughs it up mocking harry? then runs for mommy booby cuddles and expects all to be forgiven.
Nick has all the power and he always has. Harry is not the controller in the relationship, its been nick from the start. Even harry saying NO is ignored as he crawled INTO her housecoat that first time she wanted privacy because she was upset in Bathroom a few weeks ago.
He follows her around until she relents.
Doesnt anyone watch the show and the clips?
Nick plays this victim routine then crawls in bed with her or goes and grovels a few hours later. BUT only if they are alone, he NEVER does this routine with other HMs present.”
So she didn't disturb him in bed and give him an ultimatum then?
Originally Posted by bbcrzy:
“biased. Nick plays this game regularly for sympathy. WHY did they argue? because he's been slagging her off again ? because he takes everyone's side against her? Because he tells everyone even big brother thinks he needs a restraining order......then laughs it up mocking harry? then runs for mommy booby cuddles and expects all to be forgiven.
Nick has all the power and he always has. Harry is not the controller in the relationship, its been nick from the start. Even harry saying NO is ignored as he crawled INTO her housecoat that first time she wanted privacy because she was upset in Bathroom a few weeks ago.
He follows her around until she relents.
Doesnt anyone watch the show and the clips?
Nick plays this victim routine then crawls in bed with her or goes and grovels a few hours later. BUT only if they are alone, he NEVER does this routine with other HMs present.”
“biased. Nick plays this game regularly for sympathy. WHY did they argue? because he's been slagging her off again ? because he takes everyone's side against her? Because he tells everyone even big brother thinks he needs a restraining order......then laughs it up mocking harry? then runs for mommy booby cuddles and expects all to be forgiven.
Nick has all the power and he always has. Harry is not the controller in the relationship, its been nick from the start. Even harry saying NO is ignored as he crawled INTO her housecoat that first time she wanted privacy because she was upset in Bathroom a few weeks ago.
He follows her around until she relents.
Doesnt anyone watch the show and the clips?
Nick plays this victim routine then crawls in bed with her or goes and grovels a few hours later. BUT only if they are alone, he NEVER does this routine with other HMs present.”
I hope it's not biased, but seeing as I agree with your post and am a big Harry supporter, it's probably not.
Originally Posted by fifitrixibelle:
“Hmmm, imagine Harry (she who rants and raves and 'HATES' being told what to do) being told that?............he is in a communal part of the house (I know it all is)...but if you want to exclude others and wrap yourself around another like Japanese Knotweed then slink of back to the under covers of the manky duvet...if Joel came and got into bed with them, then I might agree he would be a third wheel....otherwise she really needs to wind her neck in.”
“Hmmm, imagine Harry (she who rants and raves and 'HATES' being told what to do) being told that?............he is in a communal part of the house (I know it all is)...but if you want to exclude others and wrap yourself around another like Japanese Knotweed then slink of back to the under covers of the manky duvet...if Joel came and got into bed with them
, then I might agree he would be a third wheel....otherwise she really needs to wind her neck in.”
guess you missed the Chocolate under teh Covers clip. joel DOES get under the covers and in bed with harry and nick.
its possible he does it alot and we dont know cause theres no feeds and Twitter is biased/ hides stuff
Originally Posted by fifitrixibelle:
“Possibly, though I don't doubt for a second that she equally made a bee-line for him and the 'original's' whilst giving Sam and Simon a tongue lashing for her own gainful reasons - they both 'used' each other and I still don't consider those kind of f*cked up mind games she plays as any thing other than her and I think it is really unpleasant irrespective if the person it is aimed at is disliked.
I don't see that Nick has slagged her off at every opportunity either.....I have seen him many times try and rationalise her outbursts and behaviour, again that might be for his own cunning reasons, and if he has been slagging her off then he should keep his distance and she should respect that.”
“Possibly, though I don't doubt for a second that she equally made a bee-line for him and the 'original's' whilst giving Sam and Simon a tongue lashing for her own gainful reasons - they both 'used' each other and I still don't consider those kind of f*cked up mind games she plays as any thing other than her and I think it is really unpleasant irrespective if the person it is aimed at is disliked.
I don't see that Nick has slagged her off at every opportunity either.....I have seen him many times try and rationalise her outbursts and behaviour, again that might be for his own cunning reasons, and if he has been slagging her off then he should keep his distance and she should respect that.”
Amen and Hallelujah!
It's taken a very sinister turn though.
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