" When robots take our jobs, humans will be the new 1%. "

http://www.theguardian.com/commentis...-do-fight-back

" robots will reach human levels of intelligence by 2029 "

http://www.theguardian.com/technolog...computing-jobs

" Sir James Dyson is taking on the might of Google by investing £5m in a British university to develop a new generation of "intelligent domestic robots"

http://www.theguardian.com/technolog...omestic-robots

Call everyone a scrounger then sanction them

I hear Raymond Baxter's voice in the late 60's. Don't forget his:-

'And we shall not be eating food, just these little pills I have in my hand'.

Some things are going to have to change in both the nature and way we are employed. This is why some are calling for a guaranteed income - allowing all to have a basic income on which they can build.

You will also find that manufacturing will move from a large centralised system - which requires economies of scale to a distributed form where the products are built closer to the consumer.


http://www.theguardian.com/technolog...computing-jobs

As someone who works with software - I seriously doubt this will be the case. You might find that in discrete tasks a robot might be at this level. Even complex tasks such as driving - but humans are versatile creatures - you will not find that a robot will be able to replace that in what amounts to 14 years. Of course it depends on what you mean by human level intelligence - that could mean the intelligence of a 3 year old - but nobody is going to put a 3 year old in charge

Sounds good but where will the money come from to do something like this for everyone?

Im a draughtsperson (with a degree in software development), so I suspect my job is relatively safe unless someone makes an AI that can completely automate the drawing process (AutoCAD does a lot, but the results usually need to be tweaked at least a bit to be of any use in manufacturing).

Robot tax.

Could help a little if it's something you have to pay every year rather than a one-off on purchase.

I think letting companies pay tax via shares rather than money is the way to go. Put those shares into a fund used to provide for all those who are going to be excluded from becoming capitalists otherwise.

If you have a big robot or one costing over a million pounds. They will be reclassified as 'Mansion Robots'.

Someone will have to maintain robots. Won't they need recharching or something?

Like those self-serving check outs.- Staff still hang around if something goes wrong.

Spare robot tax

Yes another robot,

LOL

the labour party did.

i am reminded of the problem of.........when robots have taken all the jobs, how do humans afford to buy the products they manufacture?

An interesting link that predicts how likely it is that your job can be replaced by a machine. For software developers its just 5%, however draftspeople are about 10% so you it looks like you won't be replaced too soon!

http://www.npr.org/sections/money/20...e-by-a-machine

It could be paid for by a technology tax on the profits of companies that make the computers and robots.

Because without a way to fund a guaranteed income no one will have the money to buy the robots or anything else and keep the whole system/economy going.

Thing is where the guaranteed income has been tried. It has actually resulted in returns anyway. It is more than just some fixed level benefit. It is a means of ensuring that people have a basic level of income on which to build something larger.

And how are you going to define what should be charged for and how are you going to ensure it does not put people off setting up - the real change is not in computers or robots - but in software. It is in the AI networks which will analyse research results and find a cure for cancer. These are not beholden to geography. They may not even be centered in one geographical location - but distributed amongst thousands, millions of individual computers.

Wont happen in the UK. Management in the UK don't invest in anything.

AI plus nanotech= post scarcity utopia

basically, The Culture, for those familiar with Iain M Banks

all you need is Hydrogen and tiny little robots can make everything out of that, leaving them to evolve into beings capable of running a perfect society, with humans as pets with every whim attended to

“ideal machine”, which lasts forever and costs nothing. A machine that could be built for nothing would, he said, add no value at all to the production process and rapidly, over several accounting periods, reduce the price, profit and labour costs of everything else it touched."

http://www.theguardian.com/books/201...pitalism-begun


Sounds like a advanced 3D printer or replicator?

send back people from the future,to stop it all happening in the first place.
Hasta La Vista,Baby

Has anyone seen this series?

http://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-ra...-season-finale

" Sci-fi show is broadcaster’s most successful drama in 20 years, with audiences engrossed by its depiction of AI and how it could threaten mankind"

Also -

http://www.channel4.com/programmes/humans

if we take the world as seen in C4 drama Humans as an example, capitalism is basically screwed, there will be dozens a few hundred people max in employment, companys may have a ultra cheap workforce, but they wont have any customers at all, no one will have a job, and no one will have any money to pay taxes, which would then be given out in benefits.

we would have to abounded the idea of money and capitalism, any government which trys to hold on to it, will be as far in the past, it wont even be funny.

Won't the politicians be replaced as well? Actually some MP's could be replaced by current robots and no one would notice a difference.

What's the current % of the workforce that produces goods , ie industry and agriculture

a hundred years ago it was probably 95%

50 years ago it was probably 40%

now......20% ?

that trend will just continue and the rest of the population will do non-productive things like they do now.......working in cinemas, coffee shops, care homes........shuffling around the goods and serving other people who an hour later might be serving you........the money moves around. Everyone spends which transfers money to someone else who works in a shop or garage

Basically the vast majority of the population are non productive and just shuffle around the money in exchange for services........that will be a larger and larger % of the population.