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Cristian and Danny lied - they were talking about Joel
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jack_blair
07-07-2015
Joel goes out into the garden asks if they're talking about him and Chloe said she was , and Cristian and Danny say at same time , that they weren't ---, such liars.

Chloe gobbing off at Joel was unfair + why can't he have his own opinion , and Joel went along with the majority vote in the end for not eating the food. Jack wanted to eat the food too.

But Joel did not seem to understand that Sam was saying she'd have gone along with the majority vote either way , which they all would have done , so think he got a bit lost in that argument.

Danny shouted out to Joel that Joel's said he doesn't need the money,,,, so the clique will put him up next noms now , as there's their reason given by Danny.
trevor tiger
07-07-2015
Originally Posted by jack_blair:
“Joel goes out into the garden asks if they're talking about him and Chloe said she was , and Cristian and Danny say at same time , that they weren't ---, such liars.

Chloe gobbing off at Joel was unfair + why can't he have his own opinion , and Joel went along with the majority vote in the end for not eating the food. Jack wanted to eat the food too.

But Joel did not seem to understand that Sam was saying she'd have gone along with the majority vote either way , which they all would have done , so think he got a bit lost in that argument.

Danny shouted out to Joel that Joel's said he doesn't need the money,,,, so the clique will put him up next noms now , as there's their reason given by Danny.”

That is where his argument fell apart. He was suggesting she was weak for saying she would do exactly what he did If only they weren't all so thick and massively defensive Joel could have been torn part over this.
jack_blair
07-07-2015
Originally Posted by trevor tiger:
“That is where his argument fell apart. He was suggesting she was weak for saying she would do exactly what he did If only they weren't all so thick and massively defensive Joel could have been torn part over this.”

Joel's so far up his own backside and lost in his own arrogant head, he lost the argument , but you're right , the others were too thick to see it - Joel's not a team player , and doesnt like to admit he's wrong.
erin_p
08-07-2015
They both shouted" no" and Chloe at the same time answered "Yes" , when Joel asked if they were talking about him ... they looked very stupid .
Fudd
08-07-2015
Originally Posted by trevor tiger:
“That is where his argument fell apart. He was suggesting she was weak for saying she would do exactly what he did If only they weren't all so thick and massively defensive Joel could have been torn part over this.”

Not quite. Joel voiced his opinion then accepted the majority vote. Sam, as she tends to do, voiced no opinion and just went with the majority for the sake of it.
Gwaed Waedlyd
08-07-2015
Two faced cowards, really disappointed in Cristian

Joel showed them all up for the two faced bitches they are
Gwaed Waedlyd
08-07-2015
Originally Posted by Fudd:
“Not quite. Joel voiced his opinion then accepted the majority vote. Sam, as she tends to do, voiced no opinion and just went with the majority for the sake of it.”

Spot on, Sam was nothing but a sheep in this episode
annw
08-07-2015
Maybe they just didnt want another arguement.
JubileeJones
08-07-2015
Perhaps they just wanted to avoid yet another argument.

Cristian and Joel seemed to have made up later though. Croel never fall out for long.
jack_blair
08-07-2015
Originally Posted by Gwaed Waedlyd:
“Two faced cowards, really disappointed in Cristian

Joel showed them all up for the two faced bitches they are”

If Chloe hadn't have spoken up , Danny and Cristian would have got away with lying to Joel.
beanie.
08-07-2015
Originally Posted by trevor tiger:
“That is where his argument fell apart. He was suggesting she was weak for saying she would do exactly what he did If only they weren't all so thick and massively defensive Joel could have been torn part over this.”

He wanted to eat the food, and voted to eat it, and then respected the vote result.

Sam said that she votes with the majority, even if she actually wanted to eat it, she would cast her vote according to what most of them voted. If most of them wanted to eat it, she would have voted that way.
jack_blair
08-07-2015
Originally Posted by JubileeJones:
“Perhaps they just wanted to avoid yet another argument.

Cristian and Joel seemed to have made up later though. Croel never fall out for long. ”

They were all bitching about him , and Joel confronted all of them.

They always backtrack and make up , as the house is small. And they're worried what viewers think , and they may be worried Joel's popular.
Gwaed Waedlyd
08-07-2015
Originally Posted by jack_blair:
“If Chloe hadn't have spoken up , Danny and Cristian would have got away with lying to Joel.”

He knew they was talking about him anyway, glad he confronted them
spkx
08-07-2015
Originally Posted by trevor tiger:
“That is where his argument fell apart. He was suggesting she was weak for saying she would do exactly what he did If only they weren't all so thick and massively defensive Joel could have been torn part over this.”

Joel's argument was subtle but the way I understood it is that what Sam was saying is that she would VOTE with the majority, regardless of her opinion.

This is not the same as going with the majority's decision, i.e. not eating the food.
lee_mccleary
08-07-2015
Dont get Joels problem with Sam here. So what she didnt care either way wether they ate the food or not?

Oh, so Joel made a (pointless) decision and said he wanted the food. Well done Joel, bravo.
Eve Elle
08-07-2015
Originally Posted by Fudd:
“Not quite. Joel voiced his opinion then accepted the majority vote. Sam, as she tends to do, voiced no opinion and just went with the majority for the sake of it.”

Yes. Joel was trying to point out that he at least had an opinion, and voiced it, whereas "people pleaser" Sam just does whatever she thinks will gain her acceptance with the group.
Fairy Wings
08-07-2015
Originally Posted by jack_blair:
“They were all bitching about him , and Joel confronted all of them.

They always backtrack and make up , as the house is small. And they're worried what viewers think , and they may be worried Joel's popular.”

Joel didn't actually 'confront' them he asked a question and accepted their answer. If he'd 'confronted' them he'd have called them out on what he thought was a lie.
magicmelody
08-07-2015
Originally Posted by spkx:
“Joel's argument was subtle but the way I understood it is that what Sam was saying is that she would VOTE with the majority, regardless of her opinion.

This is not the same as going with the majority's decision, i.e. not eating the food.”

Originally Posted by Eve Elle:
“Yes. Joel was trying to point out that he at least had an opinion, and voiced it, whereas "people pleaser" Sam just does whatever she thinks will gain her acceptance with the group.”

This is how I saw it too. Sam's just a sheep.
Heatherbell
08-07-2015
Pinocchio lying again ? Say it aint so .
You always know when he's lying because his lips move .
As for matthew wrapper boy ? He is just a glove puppet with pinocchio's hand up his bum working his mouth .No substance to the boy at all .
Liars and fakes the lot of them . No one has been honest in there and all have fallen by the wayside over time by lying and being duplicitous .
Marc was the only honest HM .
jack_blair
08-07-2015
Originally Posted by Gwaed Waedlyd:
“He knew they was talking about him anyway, glad he confronted them”

He went out into the garden as he thought they were , yes. But on asking all of them,, Danny and Cristian said they werent , but Chloe said they were as I said in previous post. So danny and cristian lied ,

typical of Danny to bitch behind HMs backs , as he used that opportunity to expose that Joel doesn't need the money and bitched in the garden about Joel wanting to eat the food - so setting up another HM for the others to nominate giving them reasons to

Danny wants who he wants in the final , and Joel's not included as he's not in the clique. And watch now they've all heard the public say Jack's the least trustworthy , Danny wont want Jack in the clique.

Did you see Danny pull Harry's arm back when she went to argue with Jack ! How dare he.

He's got his alpha male position finally in the house, and he's using it as eldest in that house , but he's the thickest . he called Joel manipulative , but couldn't say it and wasn't sure it was the right word. He's 29 fgs. I'd be more scared of Danny than Harry any day. Thug.
zazaya
08-07-2015
I would have lied too, wouldn't fancy being endlessly interrogated by Joel.
Joel lied as well, he's still making out that it was somehow a mistake when he ordered the
pizza in the diary room.
Littlegreen42
08-07-2015
Sam is a sheep housemate goes with what's popular. (Inoffensive sure, but still blah)

The others looked bad because they refused the food, thinking of the money first... when it turned out they could have had the food- instead of owning up and looking stupid they flipped it back on Joel and gave him hell.

Joel is the new target, now Marc has gone. He had 7 people at him tonight!
cah
08-07-2015
They've all lied in there at some point or other ,Joel included
Fudd
08-07-2015
Originally Posted by cah:
“They've all lied in there at some point or other ,Joel included”

This particular lie was hilarious because Chloe exposed it at the same time.
Alrightmate
08-07-2015
Originally Posted by jack_blair:
“Joel goes out into the garden asks if they're talking about him and Chloe said she was , and Cristian and Danny say at same time , that they weren't ---, such liars.

Chloe gobbing off at Joel was unfair + why can't he have his own opinion , and Joel went along with the majority vote in the end for not eating the food. Jack wanted to eat the food too.

But Joel did not seem to understand that Sam was saying she'd have gone along with the majority vote either way , which they all would have done , so think he got a bit lost in that argument.

Danny shouted out to Joel that Joel's said he doesn't need the money,,,, so the clique will put him up next noms now , as there's their reason given by Danny.”

Ironically, for not caring about the money.
Danny with his twisted logic has somehow managed to make it seem selfish to not care about the money.
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