Morag is a great character. She has many layers as demonstrated when she befriended Aiden several years ago.
Home and Away in trouble!
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I'd love a story with Morag becoming really depressed over abandoning Bobby and never having anything to do with her.
Originally Posted by gwenda:
“Morag is a great character. She has many layers as demonstrated when she befriended Aiden several years ago.”
“Morag is a great character. She has many layers as demonstrated when she befriended Aiden several years ago.”
Indeed. From her first appearance she interacted with all ages. They are reallly missing out in not having her esp. with Roo back. I'm guessing the current producer isnt interested in exploring HAA's past too much. She also must be a brilliant character to write for.
I wont hold my breath that she'll come back but fingers crossed the powers that be read these types of forums.
Originally Posted by inverness1967:
“Indeed. From her first appearance she interacted with all ages. They are reallly missing out in not having her esp. with Roo back. I'm guessing the current producer isnt interested in exploring HAA's past too much. She also must be a brilliant character to write for.
I wont hold my breath that she'll come back but fingers crossed the powers that be read these types of forums.”
“Indeed. From her first appearance she interacted with all ages. They are reallly missing out in not having her esp. with Roo back. I'm guessing the current producer isnt interested in exploring HAA's past too much. She also must be a brilliant character to write for.
I wont hold my breath that she'll come back but fingers crossed the powers that be read these types of forums.”
I think Morag would be a very hard character to write for, unless you knew her inside out. Her humour which can be nasty can't be done by everybody. Sometimes I think new writers/producers just don't get H&A.
I recall an interview with Emily Symons who said a new director came running down the beach to tell her off for wearing heels saying it was absolutely ridiculous. Her response was brilliant and something along the lines of I have been Marilyn for twenty five years and Marilyn always wears heels on the beach!
That's a brilliant response from Emily Symons.
I that it's probably indicative of the whole show. New people come in and they don't do any homework; they just think they're working on any old drama where they don't need to get to know the characters. But, TBF, most of the recent characters don't have much personality. It's been a long time since they created characters with quirks like Marilyn, Alf and Irene.
I think you're right, BadRomance, about how they wouldn't know how to write for Morag. They'd probably write her as a generic bitch type character.
As awesome as Morag is, it will take a lot more than just bringing her back to fix this show.
I that it's probably indicative of the whole show. New people come in and they don't do any homework; they just think they're working on any old drama where they don't need to get to know the characters. But, TBF, most of the recent characters don't have much personality. It's been a long time since they created characters with quirks like Marilyn, Alf and Irene.
I think you're right, BadRomance, about how they wouldn't know how to write for Morag. They'd probably write her as a generic bitch type character.
As awesome as Morag is, it will take a lot more than just bringing her back to fix this show.
Originally Posted by Deschanel:
“ As awesome as Morag is, it will take a lot more than just bringing her back to fix this show.”
“ As awesome as Morag is, it will take a lot more than just bringing her back to fix this show.”
But it would be a start.
Originally Posted by inverness1967:
“But it would be a start.”
“But it would be a start.”
I disagree. EE has bought a lot of old characters back in the last couple of years, but in my opinion it is still dreadful. They have not fixed the show's fundamental problems.
Originally Posted by Noxy:
“I disagree. EE has bought a lot of old characters back in the last couple of years, but in my opinion it is still dreadful. They have not fixed the show's fundamental problems.”
“I disagree. EE has bought a lot of old characters back in the last couple of years, but in my opinion it is still dreadful. They have not fixed the show's fundamental problems.”
Out of interest, what do you think ate Home and Aways fundemental problems?
Originally Posted by inverness1967:
“Out of interest, what do you think ate Home and Aways fundemental problems?”
“Out of interest, what do you think ate Home and Aways fundemental problems?”
To me, the show has lost focus on what it's meant to be about. The new characters are all one dimensional and unlikeable. The core cast, with the exception of Marilyn and Leah, are lately background characters. H&A was always famous for connecting its past to its present through characters popping back in every now and again to stories being resurrected years later. This created familiarity. That's all gone too
I used to watch it years ago. Now when I catch the odd episode, I find the majority of the characters unlikeable. But I assume it's more that I grew out of it, rather than it being worse than it used to be.
Originally Posted by inverness1967:
“Out of interest, what do you think ate Home and Aways fundemental problems?”
“Out of interest, what do you think ate Home and Aways fundemental problems?”
Originally Posted by BadRomance:
“To me, the show has lost focus on what it's meant to be about. The new characters are all one dimensional and unlikeable. The core cast, with the exception of Marilyn and Leah, are lately background characters. H&A was always famous for connecting its past to its present through characters popping back in every now and again to stories being resurrected years later. This created familiarity. That's all gone too”
“To me, the show has lost focus on what it's meant to be about. The new characters are all one dimensional and unlikeable. The core cast, with the exception of Marilyn and Leah, are lately background characters. H&A was always famous for connecting its past to its present through characters popping back in every now and again to stories being resurrected years later. This created familiarity. That's all gone too”
BadRomance covers a lot of my quibbles! I feel the show needs more original cast, there's no need to go overboard but characters have a habit of leaving Summer Bay and never returning. Five or six would do. As BR points out, the newcomers are bland and unlikeable. Not to don rose-tinted glasses or anything but if you check out a few episodes from the 90s and 00s, the cast in general is much stronger. It's also become too sensationalist; Home And Away used to be warmer, more about families rather than just teens and it was more down-to-earth than the largely sensationalist rubbish it is nowadays. I checked out an episode the other day and was not impressed.
I mean, I hated the Sutherland family but at least they were true to the spirit of Home And Away - they were a mish-mash of biological/fostered/adopted kids and later they were made up of a few families all blended together. Irene, Marilyn, Leah and Alf are some its best ever characters, yet they are chronically underused.
In short, I haven't watched properly since 2010 and I can't see that changing any time soon.
Originally Posted by BadRomance:
“To me, the show has lost focus on what it's meant to be about. The new characters are all one dimensional and unlikeable. The core cast, with the exception of Marilyn and Leah, are lately background characters. H&A was always famous for connecting its past to its present through characters popping back in every now and again to stories being resurrected years later. This created familiarity. That's all gone too”
“To me, the show has lost focus on what it's meant to be about. The new characters are all one dimensional and unlikeable. The core cast, with the exception of Marilyn and Leah, are lately background characters. H&A was always famous for connecting its past to its present through characters popping back in every now and again to stories being resurrected years later. This created familiarity. That's all gone too”
Definitely agree about it losing focus and comment about background characters.I personally dont think its at deaths door but does need a little recusitation. Wonder if John and Marilyn will foster once Jett is away although Emily Symons will be out of action for a while. Faces from the past would be good esp.Morag but would love Donald Fisher to pay a visit to see Alf. Ms Minogue would be good too. Would like to see her visit and compete for Alfs affections with Roo. Not seen Duncan for a while either as Andybear says.
Originally Posted by Andybear:
“I wonder what's happened to Alf's son Duncan. He never mentions him.”
“I wonder what's happened to Alf's son Duncan. He never mentions him.”
Duncan went to live with Roo in New York. I am not sure if she mentioned him when she returned as her return was more linked with what Martha was doing.
I actually think Leah, Alf and Marilyn have had a good year storyline wise. It's just Irene missing out. I do however think they are giving Leah too much of a bad run. I know it's a soap opera but she is more like Kat Slater or Carla Conor with all her tragedies as of late.
Alf'a 60th was ten years ago last week. We all know what a massive event that was for the show and Sally's speech and Irene's loss of Chloe were incredibly emotional. Ten years later, what was done for his seventieth? Nothing. And with Dannii Minogue and Cornelia Frances wanting to return it would have been the perfect opportunity for a Stewart reunion. I'm sure they could have got Colleen and Celia back too. But the current producers don't seem to care about the shows history, which in my opinion always made H&A stand out from the rest in terms of realism. Look at Alf's 60th for a prime example. Anytime something of significance happened Sally and let's face it, that was quite often, Pippa would pop by to rule the roost. Even Sally's final storyline was linked to her very first story twenty years previously and we even saw Steven and Carly again. A lot of Marilyn's history was touched on in her first few years upon returning resulting in her kidnapping Nicole's baby. We don't get any nods to the past now. It's almost like a crime drama where once one story finishes, they move on to the next with no aftermath or repercussions of the previous story.
Alf'a 60th was ten years ago last week. We all know what a massive event that was for the show and Sally's speech and Irene's loss of Chloe were incredibly emotional. Ten years later, what was done for his seventieth? Nothing. And with Dannii Minogue and Cornelia Frances wanting to return it would have been the perfect opportunity for a Stewart reunion. I'm sure they could have got Colleen and Celia back too. But the current producers don't seem to care about the shows history, which in my opinion always made H&A stand out from the rest in terms of realism. Look at Alf's 60th for a prime example. Anytime something of significance happened Sally and let's face it, that was quite often, Pippa would pop by to rule the roost. Even Sally's final storyline was linked to her very first story twenty years previously and we even saw Steven and Carly again. A lot of Marilyn's history was touched on in her first few years upon returning resulting in her kidnapping Nicole's baby. We don't get any nods to the past now. It's almost like a crime drama where once one story finishes, they move on to the next with no aftermath or repercussions of the previous story.
Ok so I'm late joining this thread and I agree with most of whats been said here.
H&A is just appalling and a drudge at the moment.
But the thing that has me stunned in disbelief is the praise for the Anzac story.
No disrespect intended to the history of Anzac but I sat there watching the H&A story thinking "is this the ultimate piss take"?
The school hires (presumably) a simulated war trench for the night for approx 20 students all in brand new different bright coloured t shirts (?!) where flares and simulated bombs go off all night and small rocks and pebbles are thrown all night into the trench by presumably people at the top of the trench. Is this for real?!!
This is like the final straw for me. Does anyone else think this was a complete farce?
How did it make its way onto tv.
Also Evelyn went from being bored to fake tears thanks to Marylin telling her to go back into the museum again. Ugh.
H&A what the hell has happened to you??
H&A is just appalling and a drudge at the moment.
But the thing that has me stunned in disbelief is the praise for the Anzac story.
No disrespect intended to the history of Anzac but I sat there watching the H&A story thinking "is this the ultimate piss take"?
The school hires (presumably) a simulated war trench for the night for approx 20 students all in brand new different bright coloured t shirts (?!) where flares and simulated bombs go off all night and small rocks and pebbles are thrown all night into the trench by presumably people at the top of the trench. Is this for real?!!
This is like the final straw for me. Does anyone else think this was a complete farce?
How did it make its way onto tv.
Also Evelyn went from being bored to fake tears thanks to Marylin telling her to go back into the museum again. Ugh.
H&A what the hell has happened to you??
I really liked the Anzac story and thought the simulated war trench was brilliant; it really hit home to the kids what life was like for those who fought in the wars. Plus it kicked off Alf's PTSD storyline which I'm finding really interesting.
Originally Posted by Andybear:
“I really liked the Anzac story and thought the simulated war trench was brilliant; it really hit home to the kids what life was like for those who fought in the wars. Plus it kicked off Alf's PTSD storyline which I'm finding really interesting.”
“I really liked the Anzac story and thought the simulated war trench was brilliant; it really hit home to the kids what life was like for those who fought in the wars. Plus it kicked off Alf's PTSD storyline which I'm finding really interesting.”
And I respect that - but is there such a thing as a simulated war trench?! And how much would it cost a school to put 20 kids in one for the night. Who is throwing the stones at them all night?!?
Its like science fiction home and away. I could not suspend my disbelief that they were expecting us to buy this nonsense
Originally Posted by theshadow:
“And I respect that - but is there such a thing as a simulated war trench?! And how much would it cost a school to put 20 kids in one for the night. Who is throwing the stones at them all night?!?
Its like science fiction home and away. I could not suspend my disbelief that they were expecting us to buy this nonsense”
“And I respect that - but is there such a thing as a simulated war trench?! And how much would it cost a school to put 20 kids in one for the night. Who is throwing the stones at them all night?!?
Its like science fiction home and away. I could not suspend my disbelief that they were expecting us to buy this nonsense”
There are many museums in the world which have out door exhibits and experiences so I don't think it's at all disbelievable. Museums do special group rates plus we don't know if the parents/guardians had to pay anything towards the cost.
Originally Posted by Noxy:
“BadRomance covers a lot of my quibbles! I feel the show needs more original cast, there's no need to go overboard but characters have a habit of leaving Summer Bay and never returning. Five or six would do. As BR points out, the newcomers are bland and unlikeable. Not to don rose-tinted glasses or anything but if you check out a few episodes from the 90s and 00s, the cast in general is much stronger. It's also become too sensationalist; Home And Away used to be warmer, more about families rather than just teens and it was more down-to-earth than the largely sensationalist rubbish it is nowadays. I checked out an episode the other day and was not impressed.”
“BadRomance covers a lot of my quibbles! I feel the show needs more original cast, there's no need to go overboard but characters have a habit of leaving Summer Bay and never returning. Five or six would do. As BR points out, the newcomers are bland and unlikeable. Not to don rose-tinted glasses or anything but if you check out a few episodes from the 90s and 00s, the cast in general is much stronger. It's also become too sensationalist; Home And Away used to be warmer, more about families rather than just teens and it was more down-to-earth than the largely sensationalist rubbish it is nowadays. I checked out an episode the other day and was not impressed.”
There is an interview on Youtube with Georgie Parker and Johnny Ruffo where Georgie quips something along the lines of Summer Bay being bound to be due for another fire/tornado/explosion/some kind of disaster which I think sums up what Home and Away has become. It's become far too reliant on crime stories and stunts which isn't what the show is about.
I also think it's a huge shame that the Stewarts - the central family in the show - are left to flounder with just Alf and Roo. It needs to be built up and expanded. Bring back Morag or some long lost family member. There is so much history there just begging to be mined and explored. Perhaps some of Ailsa's family could come into the show as well. There are other families in Summer Bay just as important to the show who do not have a connection to the Braxtons, producers.
Originally Posted by ravensborough:
“There is an interview on Youtube with Georgie Parker and Johnny Ruffo where Georgie quips something along the lines of Summer Bay being bound to be due for another fire/tornado/explosion/some kind of disaster which I think sums up what Home and Away has become. It's become far too reliant on crime stories and stunts which isn't what the show is about.
I also think it's a huge shame that the Stewarts - the central family in the show - are left to flounder with just Alf and Roo. It needs to be built up and expanded. Bring back Morag or some long lost family member. There is so much history there just begging to be mined and explored. Perhaps some of Ailsa's family could come into the show as well. There are other families in Summer Bay just as important to the show who do not have a connection to the Braxtons, producers.”
“There is an interview on Youtube with Georgie Parker and Johnny Ruffo where Georgie quips something along the lines of Summer Bay being bound to be due for another fire/tornado/explosion/some kind of disaster which I think sums up what Home and Away has become. It's become far too reliant on crime stories and stunts which isn't what the show is about.
I also think it's a huge shame that the Stewarts - the central family in the show - are left to flounder with just Alf and Roo. It needs to be built up and expanded. Bring back Morag or some long lost family member. There is so much history there just begging to be mined and explored. Perhaps some of Ailsa's family could come into the show as well. There are other families in Summer Bay just as important to the show who do not have a connection to the Braxtons, producers.”
Unsurprisingly, I thoroughly agree!
Originally Posted by ravensborough:
“There is an interview on Youtube with Georgie Parker and Johnny Ruffo where Georgie quips something along the lines of Summer Bay being bound to be due for another fire/tornado/explosion/some kind of disaster which I think sums up what Home and Away has become. It's become far too reliant on crime stories and stunts which isn't what the show is about.
I also think it's a huge shame that the Stewarts - the central family in the show - are left to flounder with just Alf and Roo. It needs to be built up and expanded. Bring back Morag or some long lost family member. There is so much history there just begging to be mined and explored. Perhaps some of Ailsa's family could come into the show as well. There are other families in Summer Bay just as important to the show who do not have a connection to the Braxtons, producers.”
“There is an interview on Youtube with Georgie Parker and Johnny Ruffo where Georgie quips something along the lines of Summer Bay being bound to be due for another fire/tornado/explosion/some kind of disaster which I think sums up what Home and Away has become. It's become far too reliant on crime stories and stunts which isn't what the show is about.
I also think it's a huge shame that the Stewarts - the central family in the show - are left to flounder with just Alf and Roo. It needs to be built up and expanded. Bring back Morag or some long lost family member. There is so much history there just begging to be mined and explored. Perhaps some of Ailsa's family could come into the show as well. There are other families in Summer Bay just as important to the show who do not have a connection to the Braxtons, producers.”
Dannii Minogue's character was Ailsa's niece. Just saying.....
I loved the Stewarts when we had Alf, Morag, Martha and Ric. They moved into Summer Bay House after Flynn died and the dynamics with them and Sally was great.
I know it's not saying much these days but this has been the best episode of the year so far imo. Why in Home and Away does the only doctor in the cast do everything? Apart from that ridiculousness this episode has been brilliant, Bonnie's acting was superb.
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