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Microsoft - wow - just wow!
http://www.gsmarena.com/microsoft_la...news-12959.php
Quote "In an email actually addressed to Microsoft employees, Nadella announced that up to 7,800 jobs will be slashed globally, primarily in the company's phone business. The company has also unveiled that it "will take an impairment charge of approximately $7.6 billion related to assets associated with the acquisition of the Nokia Devices and Services business in addition to a restructuring charge of approximately $750 million to $850 million". That's basically the entire amount Microsoft paid for Nokia's phone business". |
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Thanks for gobbling up Nokia and spitting it out.
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Thanks for gobbling up Nokia and spitting it out.
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Nokia would have run out of cash by now also - MS thought they could make a go of the business and its not worked out. very sad - but just not enough customers to keep the third ecosystem going.
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Thanks for gobbling up Nokia and spitting it out.
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If they had just gone with Android they'd still exist.
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If they had just gone with Android they'd still exist.
That would probably have ended up in the same scenario as the Fire Phone has - without the Play store, you can't get the key apps people expect. Windows Phone has the same problem, great platform, just the apps people expect (and can get on a cheap Android) are not available. |
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There is still a market for very portable mobile devices, I actually know a fair amount of people who still sue nokia phones.
But obviously companies want a piece of larger growing markets. Not sure why microsoft felt the need to buy nokia, they could have entered the phone market without them. |
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Windows phone is dieing a slow painful death.
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Surely Nokia was a pioneer of the smartphone business. It's just that Symbian was god awful and nobody had the balls to tell the people at the top that it needed to go in the bin. I had an N73 and while it was a lovely piece of hardware and had a superb camera for the time, I still couldn't send a text after 2 years of owning it. The OS seemed designed to send you down blind alleys.
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Thanks for gobbling up Nokia and spitting it out.
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I would have bought a Nokia Android phone - it took two dodgy models on Symbian for them to lose my trust and get a Galaxy S2, but I'd gladly give them another go if they brought out a proper Android phone.
I've no doubt the Lumia was an excellent phone, but it was a Windows phone and I'm not having anything to do with one of those. |
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Windows phone is dieing a slow painful death.
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Patents are worth a lot.
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A shame really, while I am not that fond of Windows phones myself, It is another Os to compete. The main problem is a lack of apps.
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I remember when Windows Phone 7 came, the excuse was it was maturing etc etc, Its still only got 2% market share in the US, 10/11% at best around the rest of the world, it never got going. I like Windows phone, I've had about 6 windows phones. The app situation isn't as bad as it was, for me its app functionality. Most are poor compared to iOS or Android. Just thrown together as an after thought really.
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What I don't understand is, Windows Mobile was so popular. How have they regressed so much since Windows Mobile?
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To think it was MS that didn't allow (coerced maybe a better word) an Android Nokia to progress, ending in this.. Imagine if they had made a 1080 with Android... Nokia Maps as a baked in app. Job done.
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What I don't understand is, Windows Mobile was so popular. How have they regressed so much since Windows Mobile?
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Not every company which uses Android is raking it on. Samsung is pretty much the only company, Nokia were just too slow moving to the smartphone business.
If Nokia had adopted Android early on, and used its expertise to create good looking phones, with great cameras, audio and so on - I firmly believe it would got to where Samsung got, and possibly at the expense of Samsung that wouldn't have had such a free run. We will obviously never know, but Nokia was riding high for so long and while it was beginning to slide through many poor management decisions, had management not been so inept (including bringing in Elop) then I am certain the outcome would have been more positive. Every manufacturer is now having problems because we've reached near saturation point in most markets. Even emerging markets are slowing down. It's likely to happen to Apple in due course, as it can't keep growing. Okay, so Apple had a great year this year because of the iPhone 6 and 6 Plus. But that's mostly because it upped the screen size and iPhone users had been crying out for a larger screen for some years. Now they've come out, I don't think that the 's' models will see anywhere near the same level of sales. Of course Apple will still do well. It's the only company you can buy from for an iOS device - compared to plenty of choice on Android (and loads of new players all sharing the same market), but smartphone sales across the board will start to fall. One thing that will save manufacturers in the future will be producing good quality hardware (that matches demands from the consumer) and getting the software right too. Take BlackBerry, which could so easily fall any day too. I do believe if it decides to drop BB OS and go to Android, and add Google Apps, and add in some of its own software (like the Hub) then it could actually do well. It has the expertise to produce something with a hardware keyboard that there's still (IMO) a market for. It also still has a brand that's likely worth something to a lot of people still, even if the teenagers have long since jumped ship leaving just the business users. |
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You might be correct that Nokia would end up having similar problems that many Android manufacturers are having today, but it would have been nowhere near where Nokia is now by NOT having adopted Android.
If Nokia had adopted Android early on, and used its expertise to create good looking phones, with great cameras, audio and so on - I firmly believe it would got to where Samsung got, and possibly at the expense of Samsung that wouldn't have had such a free run. We will obviously never know, but Nokia was riding high for so long and while it was beginning to slide through many poor management decisions, had management not been so inept (including bringing in Elop) then I am certain the outcome would have been more positive. Every manufacturer is now having problems because we've reached near saturation point in most markets. Even emerging markets are slowing down. It's likely to happen to Apple in due course, as it can't keep growing. Okay, so Apple had a great year this year because of the iPhone 6 and 6 Plus. But that's mostly because it upped the screen size and iPhone users had been crying out for a larger screen for some years. Now they've come out, I don't think that the 's' models will see anywhere near the same level of sales. Of course Apple will still do well. It's the only company you can buy from for an iOS device - compared to plenty of choice on Android (and loads of new players all sharing the same market), but smartphone sales across the board will start to fall. One thing that will save manufacturers in the future will be producing good quality hardware (that matches demands from the consumer) and getting the software right too. Take BlackBerry, which could so easily fall any day too. I do believe if it decides to drop BB OS and go to Android, and add Google Apps, and add in some of its own software (like the Hub) then it could actually do well. It has the expertise to produce something with a hardware keyboard that there's still (IMO) a market for. It also still has a brand that's likely worth something to a lot of people still, even if the teenagers have long since jumped ship leaving just the business users. http://www.androidcentral.com/blackb...oid-enterprise Blackberry still has a stellar reputation for security, it is the default choice when it comes to Government issued handsets. Apple and Google still can't manage to match it, I say that mind you Samsung with their Knox system comes close. I do believe Android on Blackberry hardware will use Knox in addition to BES 12.5. Don't get me wrong I don't think Blackberry will see a resurgence to levels around 2010, however they should see consistent custom from Government departments, my husband has one as part of his role in the police....I always find it interesting that officers now have the PNC amongst other systems in the palm of their hand. I haven't seen any officer use other brands of handset save Blackberry and Samsung. |
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