Ain't that the truth ! Look at the crap I've had thrown at me on this thread, just because I said Helen was telling the truth about Chloe. If anyone other than Helen had said it last night it would have been "Oh yes weren't they good, they really said it as it is", but because it's Helen (who having said a few over the top things on a reality show has become the "spawn of Satan") you get all sorts of ridiculous rubbish thrown at you. It's like loads of FM's turned on Marc because he had "the temerity" to like Helen, so he became the spawn of Satan by association. I've even been told to "grow up" because I agree with some of the things she says about the show. It's very childish behaviour to tell others to grow up, and it's a bit late for me anyway as I'm 60

Love that. I'm stealing it for future use in real life to 'tell-it-like-it-is-ers'

Tell me about it.

Dunno how many times I've had people trying to twist things I've said simply because they didn't like what I was saying.

Firstly, I actually said somewhere (not sure if it was on this thread or not) that for once Helen was right in what she said so your first point does not apply to me and secondly, I find it very very ironic that you defend Helen as merely "having said a few over the top things on a reality show" while calling Cristian all the names under the sun for an awful lot less.

I wasn't aware that I aimed it at you in particular, but knock yourself out if you think it applies to you Secondly defending Helen, for getting something she said right, (not for how she played the game in last years BB) is not the same as my opinion on how another HM is behaving in the current show, which is exactly the point I was making. I don't see how you think it's the same thing.

You said Helen was considered the spawn of Satan because of "a few things she said on a reality tv show". Presumably then you don't think she did much wrong and yet you have slated Cristian for an awful lot less.

I am not keen on Chloe but you have to take Helen's opinions about people with a pinch of salt. I mean just look at the people she liked in her series.

Ash, Steven and Kimberley.

None of them were really nice genuine honest people. She isn't the best judge of character at all. The people she likes from this series are not great people either. Harry is an aggressive woman who plays the victim, while Joel is an arrogant patronising young man. She only likes Joel because Joel has not got a clue who she is, and if Joel knew about her background, he would never of gave her the time of day.

Duh because she is watching the show? Chloe's true colours have come out this week obvs.

Elle-
Your opinion is swell.
And you deliver it well.

Suffice it to say, I agree!


I've seen it Ms Sasparella, and have been there myself so I can empathise. If it ever if gets too bad just send up the bat signal, er I mean Monkey Signal and I shall ride in to help stem the flow of childish insults, like some simian avenger.

From what I can see, your arguments are totally on the money and perfectly valid and what's more, you remain dignified enough not to resort to the 'grow up' type stuff (and worse) that you see on here. I doff my cap to you madam!

Is that because they are well reasoned and thought out arguments or because they are in agreement with your opinions. I suspect the latter

You suspect wrong Janis. It's very very much the former. On that you have my word.

I genuinely have no problem with people having a different opinion to me and can accept other points of view that are contrary to mine as long as they are objective, reasoned and not permeated with unrepentant levels of bias.

I've seen well thought out and reasoned arguments from this poster, in a few threads now, which is why I said what I said. I can guarantee you I do not just blindly say stuff without having good reasoning behind it, and I'd certainly not say it randomly to any poster who just happened to share my opinion.

Good for helen. At least she doesn't get the wool pulled over her eyes.

Helen's not that bright.

You don't have to be bright. Some people are just good judges of people charactor.

Exactly! Never liked Chloe, another chesty character like Rachael Rice.

I am no Helen fan but I have to say that she is very observant when it comes to the housemates and doesn't often get it wrong. She even admitted to being wrong about them nominating Jade and she also realised what a stirrer Cristian was and how he wound up Danny to do the dirty work rather than do it himself, always getting Danny to speak up when there was friction with Marc and Cristian often instigating it! So her seeing through Chloe now is only like we all have this week with her moaning about Jack and Joel and even Nick for taking money from the fund but then grabs herself £5'000 as soon as she gets the chance. I am not saying most people wouldn't do this but Chloe has made such a big deal about the others doing it all week! She is a total hypocrite!!!!!

I suspect that Helen is like certain columnists who used to be adored here and echoes opinions that have appeared online.

Whereas nobody else was after the money and trying to win?

That's just the stupidest view. Surely you can see that.
And it's based on you liking some people and hating others and basing all your opinions around that bias.

Silly, I saw you say you'd retired. I thought you were a fan girl!

I think that's the most sensible and reasonable conclusion.

No. It's a big lie. I actually feel embarrassed for those saying this.


Drama drama! That's , at best, a massive exaggeration.

Excuse me? What in the blue hell are you rambling on about now?

Follow the thread dear, it's very simple.

I have no problem following threads, it's incoherent nonsense that I have problems with.

I find you both rude, abrasive and overly opinionated to other posters, and you rarely have anything nice to say to anyone, which makes it all the more funny that you dislike Helen so much.

Absolutely. Incredibly rude and disrespectful to other forum members. Obviously this person has no idea of the meaning of the word "community". Shameful, just shameful.