He also said he completely agreed with the decision, he just thought he should say a good word. Yes, he could have just wanted to say a nice word, knowing she was a definite goner. Hes not heartless.

But knowing Nic, this behaviour doesn't surprise me at all, and contrary to what others think of as 'brave' I see it as the total opposite. As much as I can't stand Danny, I still see his actions (nominating her) as braver and Joels too (both were standing up first with what could be seen as a controversial thing to do).

Nic as usual, let others take the heat for the big decision (even said later he agreed with the decision and knew Sam was going) so it was easy for him to speak up for SAm and be the good guy avoiding any critisism for a decision (and yet quite happy with the decision that others made on his behalf). Danny knew he might be liked on the outside for being 'a man' and being decisivie, but knew he would be disliked too for being mean to SAm. Equally Joel knew he may be liked for refusing to take part in evciting Sam, but disliked for not being a team player or playing by the rules. Nic chose no risk, made no decision, but said some things nice about Sam because he knew what the decision would be - that Sam was going. Tells everyone afterwards they were right too. It Looks good for the public, and allows him a pass on the moral dilema at the time without anyone realising hes avoided it.....typical Nic for me.

Do you mean public school system or boarding school system? My grandson went to a public school but not as a boarder, so he went home to his mum and dad every night like most kids do. Don't tar every public school with the same brush.

I was intimating boarding as having not much contact with his mother. I thought that was obvious.
That was the whole point of my suggestion about him clinging to first Jade then Harry.

BIB - Yes, of course, but with regard to which HM should be evicted, the money was of consequence to the other HMs.

What by saying he didnt want Chloe to go.

I think it shows that at the time it happened that he was focussed on Sam's feelings whilst the others were focussed on the job in hand. As someone who really wants to be in the final himself he realised just how devastating this was for her. He knew she was going, of course she was, but he wanted to say something to show his support. Of course Danny and Chloe decided that he really wanted Chloe out, but that wasn't it atall. I can understand why he apologised afterwards, he'd got sidetracked by the emotion of the thing and not played a part in the decision...he saw this as a weakness in himself, hence him praising Danny for just getting on with the job they had to do.

Let's not forget that "classy" Nick is only in the final because he thinks he deserves it more than other housemates. Pathetic really when you consider he's brought absolutely nothing to the house.

i just think harry has spoiled nicks chance to blossom.

Sorry I realise what you mean now however, unfortunately for Sam, if her and Chloe had each other‘s boards the result would have been exactly the same.
Now if Sam had the £1000 board........

I just about choked when i heard Nick say "wonder if my mum has been in touch with Harry yet" As a mother myself who loves her sons very much I cant imagine what i would say to her. Keep your clothes on is the first thing that comes to mind stop your screeching and swearing and how much would it cost me to have you stay away from my son

I agree with most of this, I just not sure about the bit where you say "of course Danny and Chloe decided he wanted Chloe out". What's your thinking there?


He has brought something to the house, he's brought himself. Don't be so rude.


I think it was always going to be Sam, let's face it they all nominated her. But I would liked to see her with the £1000 .
I still think she' d have gone though.


I can only guess at what nicks mum thought of Harry and nick together, but it's no surprise to me that it's Nikki and her mum who are going for tea!

I don't know whether it was on BOTS or live feed, but Danny was grumbling about Nick not backing him up and Chloe said that he'd wanted to choose her. I can't remember the whole conversation but Danny didn't disagree with her. Also, after the evictions, Nick went to hug Chloe and she pulled away and sat down.

Well ok I'm not convinced that supports your claim that Danny and Chloe said that nick wanted Chloe out.

That's how it came over...that she believed Nick wanted to evict her over Sam (or Jack).

I agree. Harry is now on Twitter having a right go at Jade for saying exactly that. Harry should remember that Jade and Nick were good friends and that Jade is only saying what she thinks of what she has seen, same as the majority of viewers, Harry can blame the editing all she likes but she isn't doing herself any favours. She should talk to Jade not slate her in the public domain. Notice even Harriet has joined in.

Come over to you
Not to me, and nobody said it.

That's exactly the problem. And since when is it rude for someone to have a different opinion than you?

He hardly comes across as "an upstanding guy"

He is indecisive, ineffectual, introvertly introvert, immature, spineless, without conviction, has limited social skills, boring (see previous)

I would hate to think he had my back in anything other than a queue

We only get highlights yet see enough more than tolerable nose picking and barnet stroking.

He needs a hanky and a headshave
............................. a personality and a backbone could then be worked on

He is in a completely unnatural situation where his every move is being filmed and judged by millions of people. The group he has to live with, and the people watching and judging him, have one consensus; Sam to go, no questions asked. You call that slight pressure??

Do you realise how incredibly difficult it would be to go against not only the group, but also masses of people watching? But he did just that in the heat of the moment, and, unsurprisingly, he reverted to the group norm afterwards, like most human beings would.

I wouldn't like to live in your world if that's what passes as slight pressure.

I want Nick to win, there I have said it and I stand by it, he has been a decend chap all the way through, he has helped defuse situations been a shoulder to cry on, always the first to comfort, so what if he is nervous and not as in your face as the others, he has come across as a really caring lad who's one wish is to win BB, so who am I to stand in his way.

I will be voting for Nick and i wouldn't mind Joel winning but I would be sick to my stomach if any one of the others were to win the worst two being Chloe and Danny, they should be out first followed by Jack and Cristian!!!

Since when has a kind gesture been something which holds such little weight? Can we not give him some credit for it before ripping him to shreds?

He got criticised by Danny afterwards for 'making me look bad'. Hardly a 'no risk' move to make.

What logic are you using in saying 'Nick said nice things about Sam because he knew she was going?' Surely logic would dictate the exact opposite?

How de he calculate he would look good for the public? He can only go on what the crowd reaction to Sam was, and it was a unquestionably negative. So how the hell can he think he looks good to the public by sticking up for her??

How do you figure he passed on the moral dilemma? He spoke up for Sam! He was out voted 2 to 1. He put his neck on the line and made a choice, let's no rewrite history to fit in with our dislike for Nick please.

Funny, I keep on finding that you have already posted my thoughts

Good to hear. I'm starting to lose faith in the forum, everyone seems to falling over themselves to tear hm's limb from limb. Not very edifying.

Not everything is black and white. Even if you don't like a hm certain people just refuse to see the good in them as it doesn't fit in with their preconceived negative opinions.

It seems easier for some to reconstruct what happened in order to continue the bashing of a hm.

Nobody would think bad of him for saying a nice thing about Sam. He said it, knowing she was voted out and was ok with that decision though didnt have to say it....he even admitted this afterwards, saying he agreed she should go but just wanted to say something positive. Maybe he did just want to say something nice, but I disagree it was a brave thing to do..it was the easiest thing to do. He wasn't responsible for the decision (so no grief for being the one to chose her) no objecting to make the decision (so no grief for not taking part) no grief from Sam as he spoke up for her, no grief from Danny or the others afterwards as he tells them he agreed with their decision. I'm not saying hes an bad guy, maybe it was a genuine nice gesture from Nick. I just feel it was an easy thing to do in order not to have responsibility and be liked by all...not brave like some people are suggesting. And that fits in with how hes been in BB.