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Why aren't the viewers embarrassed by the stupidity?
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getmadnow17
13-07-2015
Originally Posted by patsylimerick:
“It isn't fine in my opinion either. It's worrying and it keeps the world very cosy for vested interests if breadth of knowledge becomes an unattractive commodity.



Well if it is I'm bleeding Einstein! I drive everyone who knows me up the walls! I know every word of every hit song released from the late 50s until the mid-noughties. I'm bloody encyclopaedic when it comes to song lyrics.

I often wonder how much I could achieve if I could just empty those millions of lyrics out of my head. ”

Thank god, it's not just me, this thread had me worried. It's sad that some folks think that having a sub-par level of basic understanding is perfectly acceptable.
getmadnow17
13-07-2015
Originally Posted by Sallyforth:
“We do not know if someone is stupid, lazy or cracking on, or something elseis going on, such as a learning disability, that's all. No need to get upset. Night night ”

Again, in the hypothetical question i posed , I clearly outlined that this hypothetical person has NO mental impediment which stops them from learning and has ample opportunities to learn this basic info but yet again you have ignored it.

I really struggle with articulating my thoughts into words and it takes a lot of energy and effort to write an actual response, so when someone deliberately neglects to properly read my post and poos off my questions and points or purposely misconstrues them , I am in my rights to feel frustrated or upset.

Good Day, Sir!
muggins14
13-07-2015
Originally Posted by Sallyforth:
“So in that case you could be less intelligent thatn somebody who learnt the hard way ”

Haha, perhaps so, but the end results the same
fuzzybint
13-07-2015
Originally Posted by Panda Eyes:
“I've had this conversation tonight in the Cristian pointing at the moon thread. It's the total lack of curiosity and willingness to learn that gets me.

I would never look down on anyone who has had a stunted or non-existent education because there could be a myriad of reason for that. I will not stand for willful ignorance and for those that dismiss intelligence as something other people have, sneer at it and almost celebrate their own idiocy.

I'm not Joel's biggest fan but it's ridiculous that it was used in that BB poll in relation to manipulation. It's up to the others in there to raise their intelligence so they can keep up with him, not for him to dumb down.”

Great words. Exactly the discussion we've had whilst watching.
muggins14
13-07-2015
Originally Posted by Panda Eyes:
“The only person I've heard say that is Joey Essex in I'm a Celebrity. I only remember it because my sons watch that and not BB and they cracked up laughing for about a week over it.”

I remember seeing him say that, I did laugh, although I was also very pleased that there was another person other than my daughter (who is disabled) who has never managed to learn to blow her nose. You'd think it'd be something you could teach, but so far it's a no
Veri
14-07-2015
Originally Posted by Panda Eyes:
“I've had this conversation tonight in the Cristian pointing at the moon thread. It's the total lack of curiosity and willingness to learn that gets me.

I would never look down on anyone who has had a stunted or non-existent education because there could be a myriad of reason for that. I will not stand for willful ignorance and for those that dismiss intelligence as something other people have, sneer at it and almost celebrate their own idiocy.

I'm not Joel's biggest fan but it's ridiculous that it was used in that BB poll in relation to manipulation. It's up to the others in there to raise their intelligence so they can keep up with him, not for him to dumb down.”

I was with you until the last paragraph. Joel manipulates using politician's tricks and tricks of the sorts used in political interviews, to try to trip people up and to distort what they said. Saying it's up to the others to raise their intelligence is like saying, when someone's being picked on by someone physically stronger, that it's up to them to get stronger, not to the other person to stop picking on them. In a way, it's even worse to say it when it's a difference in intelligence, because people can't raise their intelligence very much; they're pretty much stuck with what they've got.
Veri
14-07-2015
Originally Posted by patsylimerick:
“It isn't fine in my opinion either. It's worrying and it keeps the world very cosy for vested interests if breadth of knowledge becomes an unattractive commodity. ...”

Originally Posted by flower 2:
“4.16pm: Danny's just claimed that Brussels is the closest French town, geographically, to the UK. Um.”

Originally Posted by Sasparella:
“Brussels isn't even in France, it's in Belgium lol. The answer is Calais which is 22 miles from Dover.”

It worries me a bit that someone thinks Brussels is in France. There's a referendum coming up on whether we stay in the EU, and news articles often refer to this or that as coming from Brussels (meaning the EU). If someone thinks Brussels is in France, they may think the French are responsible for it all.
wazzyboy
14-07-2015
Originally Posted by getmadnow17:
“Again, in the hypothetical question i posed , I clearly outlined that this hypothetical person has NO mental impediment which stops them from learning and has ample opportunities to learn this basic info but yet again you have ignored it.

I really struggle with articulating my thoughts into words and it takes a lot of energy and effort to write an actual response, so when someone deliberately neglects to properly read my post and poos off my questions and points or purposely misconstrues them , I am in my rights to feel frustrated or upset.

Good Day, Sir!”

I dunno if Sally is a Sir 😆

But I think the point is that the thread is about the alleged intelligence or otherwise of the HMs, which we do not have all the relevant detail about. Nor would we, despite the specifications you keep making, in the scenario you keep presenting. Some of us have repeatedly pointed out that intelligence cannot be gauged solely by apparent knowledge. I am sure you would not appreciate us concluding you are stupid, or awkward, simply because you appear unable or unwilling to grasp this. You may after all be highly competent at something else
wazzyboy
14-07-2015
I am surprised nobody has blamed the education system yet. My bingo card is looking a bit neglected. 😉
patsylimerick
14-07-2015
Originally Posted by wazzyboy:
“I dunno if Sally is a Sir 😆

But I think the point is that the thread is about the alleged intelligence or otherwise of the HMs, which we do not have all the relevant detail about. Nor would we, despite the specifications you keep making, in the scenario you keep presenting. Some of us have repeatedly pointed out that intelligence cannot be gauged solely by apparent knowledge. I am sure you would not appreciate us concluding you are stupid, or awkward, simply because you appear unable or unwilling to grasp this. You may after all be highly competent at something else ”

Eh? No it's not. It's about the stupidity and/or ignorance displayed by certain BB housemates through the years - either real or fake. Ignorance, is perhaps the better word given the examples used in the OP. Ignorance of and lack of interest in basic general knowledge.
Jennyloo
14-07-2015
Originally Posted by Dangermoose:
“The short answer ... yes

I really have no time for ignorance. I don't find it endearing or funny, when it comes to lack of BASIC knowledge.”

I think he's dyslexic. Unfortunately that stupid label is often given to dyslexics. Dyslexics are often quite angry people as they get frustrated at not understanding what they see that we take for granted.
Not knowing you are dyslexic can be even worse. There is little support in school. Before anyone says that's no excuse for not knowing who landed on the moon or other questions Danny has got wrong. Dyslexics have to work far harder to understand what they see. So it follows that lots will bunk off cos of the stress of it all.
45% of the prison population are dyslexic for instance. So if you come from a family that doesn't set much store from learning that is easy to see why.
Jennyloo
14-07-2015
Originally Posted by Dangermoose:
“But did they not go to school? Did they never pick up any knowledge along the way as most - sorry to say it - normal people do? You don't have to be up on current affairs to possess some basic knowledge.
How the hell can someone get to Danny's age and not be able to tell the difference between the moon and the sun?
That's not just shallow but incredibly stupid too. Unless you're 5 years old.”

I thought I saw the sun blindingly shining.
Jennyloo
14-07-2015
Originally Posted by jp761:
“I'll take someone who has difficulty spelling any day. Over pompous people who may be good with words and who may be very good at debating. Of course not everyone who is good at these thing's is pompous. But the ones who are that way are far more annoying than someone who can't spell e.t.c.”

Good point. There are a lot of ignorant attitudes on this thread.
wazzyboy
14-07-2015
Originally Posted by patsylimerick:
“Eh? No it's not. It's about the stupidity and/or ignorance displayed by certain BB housemates through the years - either real or fake. Ignorance, is perhaps the better word given the examples used in the OP. Ignorance of and lack of interest in basic general knowledge.”

So many assumptions, so little time.
Jennyloo
14-07-2015
After reading this thread of mocking and put downs by superior people I find it very sad that no one has put forward my theory of dyslexia. Just shows how ignorant people's lack of awareness is of this condition. I may be wrong but with my experience of dyslexia it is a possibility. The dumbing down of these people who have been on BB could be that they feel more comfortable playing that role than admitting there may be something wrong. Just saying.
patsylimerick
14-07-2015
Originally Posted by wazzyboy:
“So many assumptions, so little time.”

What 'assumptions'? As I started the thread, I think I might be best placed to say what it's about.
Linus2
14-07-2015
Originally Posted by Jennyloo:
“After reading this thread of mocking and put downs by superior people I find it very sad that no one has put forward my theory of dyslexia. Just shows how ignorant people's lack of awareness is of this condition. I may be wrong but with my experience of dyslexia it is a possibility. The dumbing down of these people who have been on BB could be that they feel more comfortable playing that role than admitting there may be something wrong. Just saying.”

I said it before a couple of times that he might have a learning disability but nobody cares. There are people on this board who mock stupidity and then go and claim in all seriousness that Danny canīt tell the difference between the moon and the sun just because he couldnīt SEE the moon in a 5 sec clip on a bright and sunny day. I mean, what else is there to say.
They donīt care about the truth all they want is to drag him through the mud because he disliked Marc and he was the bookies fave to win.
patsylimerick
14-07-2015
Originally Posted by Jennyloo:
“After reading this thread of mocking and put downs by superior people I find it very sad that no one has put forward my theory of dyslexia. Just shows how ignorant people's lack of awareness is of this condition. I may be wrong but with my experience of dyslexia it is a possibility. The dumbing down of these people who have been on BB could be that they feel more comfortable playing that role than admitting there may be something wrong. Just saying.”

Why are posters 'superior people' because they're engaging in a genuine discussion about a serious issue with the programme? Have you read the OP and the posts that actually addressed the OP? Dyslexia might explain difficulty with spelling. It does not explain people thinking that a man approaching 30 is wonderful for being able to spell it.

In addition, if Danny has dyslexia, BB would know and would not give him a spelling test.

Further, it's not Danny's inability to spell or inability to tell the sun from the moon that's the problem; it's the general acceptance of ignorance - not bad spelling IGNORANCE - that's the subject of the thread.

Finally, if you read the OP, it's not just about this series, or just about Danny - it's about the creeping difference between, say, the BB3 reaction to Jade's ignorance and this year's reaction to Danny's.
Jules_Thornley
14-07-2015
What is intelligence has been a debate for many years..

As for the levels of 'knowledge' exhibited by HMs - it can be dire. But clever..

The point is we mock and laugh, join in the celebration of the dumming down of the public by the media - but this is what we are spoon fed in the miserable world of consumerism and short term gain.

The HMs are in it for the short term gain. CBB is a short term propellor into celebrity life again. People can think they can get far by doing very little.

This epidemic throughout life, schooling, cooking - everywhere.. Quickest easiest route out of things or into them. A person lacking in knowledge can exploit this to their benefit in a show like BB. Who says that's a bad thing? It's finding a way around things..

Question is why? Why do we feel the need to shortcut..
GrozzyGirl
14-07-2015
Originally Posted by patsylimerick:
“In addition, if Danny has dyslexia, BB would know and would not give him a spelling test.
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How would they know.?
How do you know that for a fact?
Has he been tested for dyslexia?

I have said that while we have no real evidence that he is dyslexic we can't rule it out and should bear that in mind when making judgements.

But you have said he can't be and continued to be mockingly superior and judgmental with a group who agree with your unkind assessment all because they don't like him so it's ok to make up lies .
It's not appropriate in my opinion.
Amelia_Sutherla
14-07-2015
Originally Posted by Jennyloo:
“I think he's dyslexic. Unfortunately that stupid label is often given to dyslexics. Dyslexics are often quite angry people as they get frustrated at not understanding what they see that we take for granted.
Not knowing you are dyslexic can be even worse. There is little support in school. Before anyone says that's no excuse for not knowing who landed on the moon or other questions Danny has got wrong. Dyslexics have to work far harder to understand what they see. So it follows that lots will bunk off cos of the stress of it all.
45% of the prison population are dyslexic for instance. So if you come from a family that doesn't set much store from learning that is easy to see why.”

Rubbish I have a grown up grandson who's dyslexic and he has a very good general knowledge,so I just think Danny and others choose to be thick because they are too lazy to put any effort in and if they can make a living at it why bother to learn.
yellowlabbie
14-07-2015
Originally Posted by Jennyloo:
“Good point. There are a lot of ignorant attitudes on this thread.”

There are indeed.
Amelia_Sutherla
14-07-2015
Originally Posted by patsylimerick:
“Why are posters 'superior people' because they're engaging in a genuine discussion about a serious issue with the programme? Have you read the OP and the posts that actually addressed the OP? Dyslexia might explain difficulty with spelling. It does not explain people thinking that a man approaching 30 is wonderful for being able to spell it.

In addition, if Danny has dyslexia, BB would know and would not give him a spelling test.

Further, it's not Danny's inability to spell or inability to tell the sun from the moon that's the problem; it's the general acceptance of ignorance - not bad spelling IGNORANCE - that's the subject of the thread.

Finally, if you read the OP, it's not just about this series, or just about Danny - it's about the creeping difference between, say, the BB3 reaction to Jade's ignorance and this year's reaction to Danny's.”

Exactly good post hope people on here read it and take note.
Ketamine
14-07-2015
I know he's a fictional character but Sherlock Holmes is a good example for this subject. He was incredibly intelligent but only retained knowledge about things that were practical to his profession. I remember a part where Watson was amazed that Holmes didn't know basic facts like that the Earth rotated around the Sun.
Skyrah
14-07-2015
Originally Posted by patsylimerick:
“This is one thing I really don't get about Big Brother. A grown man not being able to spell canoe; not knowing who Shakespeare is; thinking East Anglia is 'abroad'; all of these for me automatically make me think less of a person.

There's stupid and there's stupid, but that kind of ignorance just shows a complete disregard for the world you live in. I know some hms in the past have put it on, but we have an absolute half-wit (Danny) being deified and admired both inside and outside the house. I would have thought that people would pity and perhaps feel somewhat protective of someone who's genuinely stupid. However, supporting him as a winner? Thinking he's desirable? Isn't that skewed?

Is natural selection completely f***ed? ”

Why should I be embarrassed by a HM who is thick and stupid ?
That's their problem not mine
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