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Old 13-07-2015, 20:01
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Ken is a bit hypocritical to have a go at Tracy for upsetting Deirdre when he has had multiple affairs and hasn't always been there for Deirdre. When Ken returned from Canada he partly caused Deirdre's stress by shouting at her and blaming her for not handling things that well with Peter. Deirdre did get stressed with Tracy but underneath she did love her
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Old 13-07-2015, 20:07
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That was funny seeing Tracy run off crying. Finally gets a taste of her own medicine. She never considers other people's feelings so the should be done to her.

Deirdre is far from innocent either, but that is forgotten and only Ken gets criticized for his past mistakes.
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Old 13-07-2015, 20:15
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Tracy has been such a horror, she deserves anything and everything that's thrown at her.
I think it's quite ridiculous how the producers have had her escaping justice and even condemnation time after time.
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Old 13-07-2015, 20:16
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Ken is a bit hypocritical to have a go at Tracy for upsetting Deirdre when he has had multiple affairs and hasn't always been there for Deirdre. When Ken returned from Canada he partly caused Deirdre's stress by shouting at her and blaming her for not handling things that well with Peter. Deirdre did get stressed with Tracy but underneath she did love her
Agreed. Ken hasn't been lily white where Deirdre's concerned either. End of the day Tracy loved her mum and for Ken to say those things, especially when they were in church saying their goodbyes, was out of order.
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Old 13-07-2015, 20:24
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Considering this is an episode to say goodbye to Anne Kirkbride as well as Deirdre I found it really disrespectful, and out of character as well. Not sure why I expected anything more from this writing team.
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Old 13-07-2015, 21:21
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Considering this is an episode to say goodbye to Anne Kirkbride as well as Deirdre I found it really disrespectful, and out of character as well. Not sure why I expected anything more from this writing team.
Was it? Who said so? Was it announced as such? And for whom to say goodbye?

I'd imagine her family and friends have already been to her funeral.

However, I'd still be interested to know in what way you consider it disrespectful.
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Old 13-07-2015, 21:53
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Ken is a bit hypocritical to have a go at Tracy for upsetting Deirdre when he has had multiple affairs and hasn't always been there for Deirdre. When Ken returned from Canada he partly caused Deirdre's stress by shouting at her and blaming her for not handling things that well with Peter. Deirdre did get stressed with Tracy but underneath she did love her
He did say at the funeral that he wished he'd been a better husband so i think he recognised he wasn't a saint.
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Old 13-07-2015, 21:56
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Was it? Who said so? Was it announced as such? And for whom to say goodbye?

I'd imagine her family and friends have already been to her funeral.

However, I'd still be interested to know in what way you consider it disrespectful.
Mate, stop getting all pedantic over petty details. You know full well exactly what's meant.
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Old 13-07-2015, 21:57
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Agreed. Ken hasn't been lily white where Deirdre's concerned either. End of the day Tracy loved her mum and for Ken to say those things, especially when they were in church saying their goodbyes, was out of order.
Tracy used her Mum!! She had little or no respect for her and always teeated her with scorn rather than affection!! I haven't watched the episodes yet but I can tell you now I will be feeling zero pity for Tracy!! After all, as other posters have said, when did she ever feel pity or shoe any respect to others in bereavement!!

Whatever Ken said was no more than she deserved & she should think long & hard about it but no!! She'll be whinging to the nearest person about how out of order it was & how she loved her Mum more than anything.... yeah right!!
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Old 13-07-2015, 22:14
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Tracy used her Mum!! She had little or no respect for her and always teeated her with scorn rather than affection!! I haven't watched the episodes yet but I can tell you now I will be feeling zero pity for Tracy!! After all, as other posters have said, when did she ever feel pity or shoe any respect to others in bereavement!!

Whatever Ken said was no more than she deserved & she should think long & hard about it but no!! She'll be whinging to the nearest person about how out of order it was & how she loved her Mum more than anything.... yeah right!!
Sadly, that's the way some families are, as Ken said you don't realise what you have until it's gone. We take our family for granted when they're with us, not thinking that they may be taken away sooner than we expected. When they pass it's too late to fix our mistakes.
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Old 13-07-2015, 23:51
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The thing is, Ken has always been a massive hypocrite. He's always looked down on the behaviour of others while conducting his own string of sordid affairs. He's always judged how others have raised their children but has had very little to do with the upbringing of any of his own! This part was quite in keeping with Ken's character in my opinion.

Saying that, I still didn't enjoy the episodes really - the writing and general tone of the whole show has slipped in recent months and I hope it gets back on track soon! I watch out of habit now, patiently waiting for it to pick up.
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Old 14-07-2015, 00:05
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The whole Ken thing is that Deirdre spent her last few months away from home & her family & friends becuse of the shame of Tracey having an affair with her best friend's bloke. Thats what he resents, missing that time with her, over the years I'm sure he realises he has been nearly as big a pillock as Tracy has
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Old 14-07-2015, 00:07
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The whole Ken thing is that Deirdre spent her last few months away from home & her family & friends becuse of the shame of Tracey having an affair with her best friend's bloke. Thats what he resents, missing that time with her, over the years I'm sure he realises he has been nearly as big a pillock as Tracy has
The affair was only common knowledge about three weeks ago though so what reason did she have to stay away before that? and Tracy has done much worse than sleep with a bloke going out with Liz and wouldn't Deirdre have spoken to Tracy or Ken on the phone and mentioned this?
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Old 14-07-2015, 00:13
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The affair was only common knowledge about three weeks ago though so what reason did she have to stay away before that? and Tracy has done much worse than sleep with a bloke going out with Liz and wouldn't Deirdre have spoken to Tracy or Ken on the phone and mentioned this?
Thats not the point, the story of Deirdre staying away because of Tracey is the line they are using regardless of how accurate it really is, - hence Kens actions.
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Old 14-07-2015, 00:15
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Thats not the point, the story of Deirdre staying away because of Tracey is the line they are using regardless of how accurate it really is, - hence Kens actions.
My point is that the story the writers came up with was rubbish and has loads of holes
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Old 14-07-2015, 00:28
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My point is that the story the writers came up with was rubbish and has loads of holes

But whats new?
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Old 14-07-2015, 01:07
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Mate, stop getting all pedantic over petty details. You know full well exactly what's meant.
No, I'm still curious to know why the FM considered the episode disrespectful.
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Old 14-07-2015, 01:36
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I think I would be as head-f**ked as Tracy was with three ex-husbands hanging around
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Old 14-07-2015, 07:20
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I thought the episode last night was rubbish. I wanted to be moved by the funeral, but wasn't because the camera kept flicking to the Dog and Gun. You could see that some of the characters were genuinely upset (I think). Tracy was out of order kissing her ex and so was Ken for having a go at her in the Church. Did they show Annie's bets bits at the end? I think I gave up then !!
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Old 14-07-2015, 07:54
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I agree. Ken also caused Deirdre stress and Peter - where was the useless lump yesterday anyway - what's the point of this character turning up if not to be at the funeral? Tracy was a horror show but she was her only child and D loved her unconditionally. Bev is a bloody trouble maker and should keep her beak out. Plus what was all that bickering between Ken and Tracy at the funeral about? Very disrespectful - couldnt their arguments wait half an hour? Both as bad as each other. Ken looks so old now I thought.
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Old 14-07-2015, 10:18
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I think I would be as head-f**ked as Tracy was with three ex-husbands hanging around
I thought there were only two, Robert and Steve. Who was the third one?
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Old 14-07-2015, 11:18
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Ken has never murdered anyone so I'd say he definitely holds the moral high ground over Tracy. He may have had the odd affair but so did Deirdre in fact she started it by cheating with Mike. In terms of causing Deirdre stress finding out Ken had had a brief fling with his secretary doesn't really compare to your daughter being on trial for premeditated murder.

I laughed when said to Tracy 'just as I thought you could sink no lower' you don't know the half of it Kenny! He's yet to find out she's responsible for the deaths of two more people and has allowed a third innocent person to take the blame.
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Old 14-07-2015, 11:21
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I thought there were only two, Robert and Steve. Who was the third one?

Roy. LOL!
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Old 14-07-2015, 11:51
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Was it? Who said so? Was it announced as such? And for whom to say goodbye?

I'd imagine her family and friends have already been to her funeral.

However, I'd still be interested to know in what way you consider it disrespectful.
When i was growing up my dad banned soaps in our house after my sister started developing a real attitude after starting to watch eastenders. His argument was that people cant tell the difference between real life and fictional tv anymore.

I thought he was being stupid, but after seeing a lot of the posts on here i think he was probably on to something!
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Old 14-07-2015, 13:28
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Ken has never murdered anyone so I'd say he definitely holds the moral high ground over Tracy. He may have had the odd affair but so did Deirdre in fact she started it by cheating with Mike. In terms of causing Deirdre stress finding out Ken had had a brief fling with his secretary doesn't really compare to your daughter being on trial for premeditated murder.

I laughed when said to Tracy 'just as I thought you could sink no lower' you don't know the half of it Kenny! He's yet to find out she's responsible for the deaths of two more people and has allowed a third innocent person to take the blame.
Deirdre is now a flawless human being. She must see an affair being worse than Tracy's other schemes like murder, lying about someone causing the deaths of her unborn children, trying to set Gail up for murder, etc.
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