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This was a chance for Blackburn to save his reputation and he failed.
A huge challenge that nobody wanted him to fail at. |
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Coronation Street has been in slow decline since the tram crash, if not earlier.
I was once a full-time, completely addicted Corrie devotee - I decided to switch off around 2011. This was a conscious decision and I've only briefly been back since, picking up the odd episode here and there. Coronation Street just isn't what it used to be and I really don't have the faith in anybody at ITV to realise this. If anything, it's got a lot to do with the decline of the British soap genre as a whole, but Corrie seems to suffer much more than others. Episodes feel slapdash and storylines are predictable. Characters are loose and are moulded to fit a story, which was never the way Corrie approached things. Yet, the production team still bleat on about everything being 'character driven'. Humph. They added a fifth episode around the time of 2002, which was great because of the Hillman climax. But again the shortcomings were laid bare once he left. Corrie still has the odd moment of brilliance. But it lacks consistency. ITV scaling back on episodes would be a start. Quote:
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If the same writing team remains, how much difference would replacing Blackburn even make?
Even EE isn't showing any real creativity under dtc. I guess it's very hard when soaps have been around so long and almost every s/l has already been done. |
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Stop watching, negative people, you'll destroy yourselves
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It was the standing ovation and applause for Ken that did it for me! He was delivering a eulogy to mark the death of his wife, not accepting a soap award! It's beyond belief that a team of writers and producers thought that would be appropriate. It completely killed any sense of emotion for me. Ridiculous.
A respectful, short clap could have worked nicely but that prolonged clapping was just awkward and inappropriate
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I haven't really watched Corrie in a long while, but I adored Deirdre and tuned in for the funeral.
I know people have been saying on here that the show has gone downhill, but I was actually almost shocked at how bad it was. I can't even totally put my finger on it, but the tone was all wrong. Awful writing. People talking over the coffin being brought in? Really? Tracy (who was doing her best with it) and Ken rowing publicly instead of being cut up by grief? Inter-cutting with that terrible stuff with 2 horrible young teen girls? It all just seemed cack-handed, unsubtle and awkward. I felt embarrassed and switched off. It's sad that Corrie, the flagship original soap, is turning out stuff that badly written and edited. |
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I admit I rarely watch the soaps these but did sit through Corrie tonight
What was once a flagship program on ITV Its now its nothing more than a joke What must the original cast members & script writers think of how poor this program is now? (Alive or dead) Its AWFUL No reality, recycled story lines, awful cast, poor writing I could go on & on.... especially sad is the no humour policy (which is something Corrie did especially well) Examples, Blanche, Jack & Vera, Reg & Maureen, Stan & Hilda Phyllis & Percy etc etc Take for example Bethany Platt's daughter-spent most of her life in Italy-yet talks like she born in Salford All I can say is its really sad what it's now become I would imagine other fed up viewers are switching off in droves as they are tired of the repeated sensationalism & poor storylines How long will ITV continue to churn out this crap before action is taken I stopped watching when the muslim family arrived ( i gave them a chance, but eventually no more....) and I wanted to watch the death episode last week, knowing for sure it would be a really good episode, and it wasn't, it was just pure crap! I think one of the big problems is their casting. The young actresses that they take on now, all look like Identikit acting by numbers type of young girls. All with the same look, the same hair, all white teeth etc, and absolutely nothing about them that would set them apart as a great actress and someone to remember. We need this generations, Elsie Tanner, Annie Walker, Bet Lynch (in her younger years....) Rita (when she could act..) Ena Sharples, Hilda Ogden, Jack and Vera...... Obviously noone could créate these characters again and in some ways, these characters could and would never work as a lot of them do belong to another time, but at least have actors of this calibre! I hope one day I'll go back to watching Corrie, though I doubt it, and unfortunately EE looks to be going the same way as well. |
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I've watched Corrie all my life and lately I've wondered why I'm bothering, it's very very poor right now and I'm watching more out of habit than anything else.
They had a chance to redeem themselves a bit with Deirdre's funeral but they had to shoehorn the scenes in around it with Bethany and Callum and his pretend gangster mates who are shockingly bad. So many dreadful characters remain.. Fiz, Kirk, Dev, Michael, Callum, Bethany, Tyrone.. the list goes on. I seriously hope action is taken to revamp it soon, it needs new writers at the very least. |
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I was disappointed they backed out of having any comedy characters in there, especially as they are so versatile they don't need to be cracking one liners. Norris and Mary really wouldn't have missed it.
Plus I felt there wasn't enough cast in the episodes. Would Fiz and Tyrone really give it a miss having known Deirdre for so long? Anna, Izzy, Gary? How about Nick, even Michelle and Sean were nowhere to be seen. I was hoping for something big, but it felt small, like Deirdre only mattered to a few people. |
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This was a chance for Blackburn to save his reputation and he failed.
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I was disappointed they backed out of having any comedy characters in there, especially as they are so versatile they don't need to be cracking one liners. Norris and Mary really wouldn't have missed it.
Plus I felt there wasn't enough cast in the episodes. Would Fiz and Tyrone really give it a miss having known Deirdre for so long? Anna, Izzy, Gary? How about Nick, even Michelle and Sean were nowhere to be seen. I was hoping for something big, but it felt small, like Deirdre only mattered to a few people. Interesting you brought up Michelle, Sean, Fiz and Tyrone. If they were brought to the funeral everyone here would be having a field day and complaining about them being there. Plus let's not forget Saint Deirdre testified against Tyrone thinking he was a woman beater and stuck up for Kirsty. We didn't even see her apologise when Kirsty was revealed as the true abuser. |
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I couldn't take the funeral seriously. I don't think it will rate as high as expected.
http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/soaps/s3...s-funeral.html |
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Why bother having these characters? When was the last time a time of them had anything to do with Deirdre.
Interesting you brought up Michelle, Sean, Fiz and Tyrone. If they were brought to the funeral everyone here would be having a field day and complaining about them being there. Plus let's not forget Saint Deirdre testified against Tyrone thinking he was a woman beater and stuck up for Kirsty. We didn't even see her apologise when Kirsty was revealed as the true abuser. |
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And the worse thing is, thats probably Corrie at it's 'best'
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Yawn. I thought this one had been put to bed. Bethany moved to Italy when she was 7 years old so has spent half of her life in Manchester. Therefore there is absolutely NO reason whatsoever for her to speak in an Italian accent whilst speaking English. You don't lose your accent in English by learning a foreign language.
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Corrie has come a long way off from being a soft feminist soap with tiresome dramas with a bunch of oldies or families talking a load of crap.
I am glad Corrie has become darker like eastenders (but without the depression) and hollyoaks instead and as for Bethany having a salford accent, its already been explained by numerous people that she was born and brought in salford and had later lived with her mum (who also has a heavy manc accent) in italy. Not everyone loses there accent. |
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Corrie has come a long way off from being a soft feminist soap with tiresome dramas with a bunch of oldies or families talking a load of crap.
I am glad Corrie has become darker like eastenders (but without the depression) and hollyoaks instead and as for Bethany having a salford accent, its already been explained by numerous people that she was born and brought in salford and had later lived with her mum (who also has a heavy manc accent) in italy. Not everyone loses there accent. |
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Great post, although how sad it is that people are complaining like this about Coronation Street when once upon a long time ago, it was just really riveting, and great televisión, and it was unthinkable to even miss one episode, and now look what it has become.....
I stopped watching when the muslim family arrived ( i gave them a chance, but eventually no more....) and I wanted to watch the death episode last week, knowing for sure it would be a really good episode, and it wasn't, it was just pure crap! I think one of the big problems is their casting. The young actresses that they take on now, all look like Identikit acting by numbers type of young girls. All with the same look, the same hair, all white teeth etc, and absolutely nothing about them that would set them apart as a great actress and someone to remember. We need this generations, Elsie Tanner, Annie Walker, Bet Lynch (in her younger years....) Rita (when she could act..) Ena Sharples, Hilda Ogden, Jack and Vera...... Obviously noone could créate these characters again and in some ways, these characters could and would never work as a lot of them do belong to another time, but at least have actors of this calibre! I hope one day I'll go back to watching Corrie, though I doubt it, and unfortunately EE looks to be going the same way as well. |
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I admit I rarely watch the soaps these but did sit through Corrie tonight
What was once a flagship program on ITV Its now its nothing more than a joke What must the original cast members & script writers think of how poor this program is now? (Alive or dead) Its AWFUL No reality, recycled story lines, awful cast, poor writing I could go on & on.... especially sad is the no humour policy (which is something Corrie did especially well) Examples, Blanche, Jack & Vera, Reg & Maureen, Stan & Hilda Phyllis & Percy etc etc Take for example Bethany Platt's daughter-spent most of her life in Italy-yet talks like she born in Salford All I can say is its really sad what it's now become I would imagine other fed up viewers are switching off in droves as they are tired of the repeated sensationalism & poor storylines How long will ITV continue to churn out this crap before action is taken
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Re: Bethany, perhaps she wouldn't have an Italian accent but her Salford one wouldn't be as strong as it is. People go on about her being 7 when she left but babies don't speak at all and toddlers can only say a few words. She had only been speaking properly for 4 or 5 years. It's entirely possible for her to have lost her Salford accent living in another country. I think the bigger issue is that this is a woman playing a child. Quote:
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I would've liked Peter to have been at the funeral since Deirdre didn't belong to a big family. When the news broke about him returning, it did say that he would be attending.
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I disagree, this was not only saying goodbye to a character but to the actress herself. I really expected a bigger turn out of the cast . The extras at the back filling up the seats was an insult to her. Even if the cast didn't all do the church scenes they should all have been on the street as the cortege left.
In real life the actors playing those I mentioned would have already said goodbye to their colleague, it wasn't really necessary to have the characters attending. As I said, if Sean or Michelle were there, we would have complaints about Anthony Cotton or Kym Marsh trying to get attention and have no right to be there for a long-running character. |
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I've watched Corrie all my life and lately I've wondered why I'm bothering, it's very very poor right now and I'm watching more out of habit than anything else.
They had a chance to redeem themselves a bit with Deirdre's funeral but they had to shoehorn the scenes in around it with Bethany and Callum and his pretend gangster mates who are shockingly bad. So many dreadful characters remain.. Fiz, Kirk, Dev, Michael, Callum, Bethany, Tyrone.. the list goes on. I seriously hope action is taken to revamp it soon, it needs new writers at the very least. |
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Reading through the posts/comments here I think you all raise some great points about the decline of a ITV flagship program
Here's what I think most would agree with 1) After last nights episode it cant get any worse?? 2) New producer/director 3) New casting team 4) reduce no of episodes or have two 1 hour episodes 5) hire a script writer with a good pedigree (examples could be Kay Mellor or the team that wrote Ordinary Lives on BBC1 6) Hire some quality actors -There are 100's of brilliant northern based actors -hire them instead of x celebs/pop stars 7) In recent weeks/months one of the stand out dramas for me was Ordinary Lives on BBC1 Watch it & see how its done properly!! One final point re Bethany Platt-see moved to Italy aged 7 -from experience kids of that age adapt much quickly to local dialect /environment than adults So the line about she would have a northern accent still is codswallop Plus she looks older than her mother Whats everyone else think?? |
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