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Total prize fund: £150k
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Veri
14-07-2015
Originally Posted by WhatJoeThinks:
“I'm with you so far..”

Ok.

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“Then how do we know he was right? ”

We've watched BB for many years and know that BB decides what tasks and twists to include, how difficult or not they'll be, what amounts of money they involve, and whether and how they effect the prize. For instance, BB decided to have the task that ended up giving Sam and Chloe £5000 each; BB decided the amount would be £5000; and BB decided that the money could be added to the winner's prize but wouldn't be taken away from it.

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“The way the numbers add up shows that BB was always going to be giving £150k away, notwithstanding any Monopoly money deals.”

It doesn't show that BB was always going to do that. For all we know, the producers changed their mind part way through. And it doesn't make any of the deals "Monopoly money". HMs are getting 1000s of real pounds, and those pounds really are being taken from the prize.

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“I think you're employing a rather redundant interpretation of that phrase. Yes, if they said the winner gets £1 then that would be what they'd decided. The point is, they had already decided before the show began that they would be giving away £150k, they advertised it as such and they followed through with that plan.”

But even if they did decided it before the show began, so what?

Joel didn't say the total given to HMs would still be £150,000 in the end. As you put it, he said BB would "choose whether the money goes up, down or sideways, regardless of the actions of the HMs". When BB does that, the total of the amounts given to HMs does not have to equal the original prize. In this case, BB happened to put in tasks etc that brought the total given to HMs back to the original amount, but BB could also have put I tasks etc that didn't, just as in BBs 5 and 10 BB stopped giving them more ways to bring the prize back up before it reached the original level.

Of course, it isn't (strictly speaking) "regardless of the actions of the HMs". The tasks and twists that affect the prize involved actions of the HMs, and perhaps if the HMs messed up enough, BB wouldn't have kept trying to let them bring it back up. But whether to keep trying or not was BB's decision.
WhatJoeThinks
14-07-2015
It's confusing enough trying to talk to you without you copy/pasting one post for another so it looks like you've replied to me before I post!
Veri
14-07-2015
Originally Posted by WhatJoeThinks:
“It's confusing enough trying to talk to you without you copy/pasting one post for another so it looks like you've replied to me before I post! ”

I didn't realise it would turn out that way. (The forum used to do that sort of thing all on its own.)
Syntax Error
14-07-2015
So basically this thread is to mock people who said something previously without the benefit of hindsight?

You could start threads of this ilk about a myriad of things.

I can't see the point in doing such a thing.
GibsonSG
14-07-2015
Originally Posted by WhatJoeThinks:
“So it looks like the winner might be walking away with £116,100. Add to that Jack's £23,900 and Sam and Chloe's £5,000 each and you get a total prize fund of £150k, just as advertised. So Joel was totally right about his Monopoly money theory, and a lot of FMs who are quick to jump to the most derogatory conclusions about HMs and the BB production team will be looking rather eggy-faced. ”

Joels theory was that the winner was entitled to the full 150, and that is what they had signed up for. The other amounts taken off the 150 went to potential non-winners of the show. I actually disagreed with Joel on this one.

Not understanding your point.
Sunnydays
14-07-2015
Originally Posted by WhatJoeThinks:
“How the Hell does someone win some money but it not be considered part of the total prize fund?!

Total prize fund = The total amount of money that the production has put aside for prizes

Total prize fund = Winner's prize money + Jack's winnings + Chloe's winnings + Sam's winnings”

That is what BB said about the £23+ money, that it was not part of the prize fund, but if the button was not pressed within one minute it would be added.

No egg ON my face this morning WJT, in my stomach.......poached egg on toast for brekkie
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