Originally Posted by WhatJoeThinks:
“I'm with you so far..”
“I'm with you so far..”
Ok.
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“Then how do we know he was right?
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“Then how do we know he was right?
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We've watched BB for many years and know that BB decides what tasks and twists to include, how difficult or not they'll be, what amounts of money they involve, and whether and how they effect the prize. For instance, BB decided to have the task that ended up giving Sam and Chloe £5000 each; BB decided the amount would be £5000; and BB decided that the money could be added to the winner's prize but wouldn't be taken away from it.
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“The way the numbers add up shows that BB was always going to be giving £150k away, notwithstanding any Monopoly money deals.”
“The way the numbers add up shows that BB was always going to be giving £150k away, notwithstanding any Monopoly money deals.”
It doesn't show that BB was always going to do that. For all we know, the producers changed their mind part way through. And it doesn't make any of the deals "Monopoly money". HMs are getting 1000s of real pounds, and those pounds really are being taken from the prize.
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“I think you're employing a rather redundant interpretation of that phrase. Yes, if they said the winner gets £1 then that would be what they'd decided. The point is, they had already decided before the show began that they would be giving away £150k, they advertised it as such and they followed through with that plan.”
“I think you're employing a rather redundant interpretation of that phrase. Yes, if they said the winner gets £1 then that would be what they'd decided. The point is, they had already decided before the show began that they would be giving away £150k, they advertised it as such and they followed through with that plan.”
But even if they did decided it before the show began, so what?
Joel didn't say the total given to HMs would still be £150,000 in the end. As you put it, he said BB would "choose whether the money goes up, down or sideways, regardless of the actions of the HMs". When BB does that, the total of the amounts given to HMs does not have to equal the original prize. In this case, BB happened to put in tasks etc that brought the total given to HMs back to the original amount, but BB could also have put I tasks etc that didn't, just as in BBs 5 and 10 BB stopped giving them more ways to bring the prize back up before it reached the original level.
Of course, it isn't (strictly speaking) "regardless of the actions of the HMs". The tasks and twists that affect the prize involved actions of the HMs, and perhaps if the HMs messed up enough, BB wouldn't have kept trying to let them bring it back up. But whether to keep trying or not was BB's decision.




So Joel was totally right about his Monopoly money theory, and a lot of FMs who are quick to jump to the most derogatory conclusions about HMs and the BB production team will be looking rather eggy-faced.
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