She only seems to have feelings for herself
Has Tracy Barlow shown any remorse over killing 3 people?
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Originally Posted by dd68:
“She only seems to have feelings for herself”
“She only seems to have feelings for herself”
Very true. She seems amoral as well as immoral.
Tracy is such a great character I could forgive her anything...Long may she reign...that's my opinion..
Originally Posted by sorrento:
“Tracy is such a great character I could forgive her anything...Long may she reign...that's my opinion..”
“Tracy is such a great character I could forgive her anything...Long may she reign...that's my opinion..”
For premeditated cold-blooded murder?
For her behaviour towards Claire, Roy, Hayley, Samir, Karen, Becky, to name just a few?
Originally Posted by k9fan:
“For premeditated cold-blooded murder?
For her behaviour towards Claire, Roy, Hayley, Samir, Karen, Becky, to name just a few?”
“For premeditated cold-blooded murder?
For her behaviour towards Claire, Roy, Hayley, Samir, Karen, Becky, to name just a few?”
I agree with sorrento, Tracy is fab. Glad to see the actress is improving as I feel that Tracy really does need to be made integral to number 1, to keep it as the Barlow home for another 50 yrs!
Any normal person would struggle to live with themselves, like Carla is, but until now, I don't think Tracy has given it much thought never mind shown remorse.
Deirdre's death has forced her to confront the person she has become though and I think she is starting to feel guilty. Not guilty enough to tell Carla or anyone else the truth yet but perhaps she will. Eventually.
Deirdre's death has forced her to confront the person she has become though and I think she is starting to feel guilty. Not guilty enough to tell Carla or anyone else the truth yet but perhaps she will. Eventually.
Originally Posted by k9fan:
“For premeditated cold-blooded murder?
For her behaviour towards Claire, Roy, Hayley, Samir, Karen, Becky, to name just a few?”
“For premeditated cold-blooded murder?
For her behaviour towards Claire, Roy, Hayley, Samir, Karen, Becky, to name just a few?”
When you watch a soap you take a character for what they are you either like or dislike them...the S/L which they are given doesn't usually alter that opinion....Now.. if we were talking real life there would be no question that she would be a despicably person and deserved all that was thrown at her....but you have to separate fact from fiction where soaps are concerned...
She's obviously a heinous individual, but makes for a fantastically hateful character.
I've got a serious soft spot for TracyLuv. I think she's just misunderstood.
I've got a serious soft spot for TracyLuv. I think she's just misunderstood.
Originally Posted by craig_25:
“She's obviously a heinous individual, but makes for a fantastically hateful character.
I've got a serious soft spot for TracyLuv. I think she's just misunderstood.”
“She's obviously a heinous individual, but makes for a fantastically hateful character.
I've got a serious soft spot for TracyLuv. I think she's just misunderstood.”
Sorry just had to pick myself up off the floor laughing at your last sentence!!
Originally Posted by notdebbiedingle:
“Sorry just had to pick myself up off the floor laughing at your last sentence!! ”
“Sorry just had to pick myself up off the floor laughing at your last sentence!!
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Bless her, she's a sweetheart really. This time next year she'll be preggers with new hubby Roberts baby and between being installed in the kitchen at numer one, feeding up Ken with her mams famous stuffed marrow (hilariously singing Kaite Perrys Firework) and teaching Amy trigonometry, getting excited about the baby shower her new besties Michelle and Maria have arranged for her in t'Rovers.
Exciting time ahead for our Trace.
Originally Posted by craig_25:
“I think the turning point was Peter sitting her down and telling her that she risked wrecking Amy's life and turning her into a carbon copy of herself.”
“I think the turning point was Peter sitting her down and telling her that she risked wrecking Amy's life and turning her into a carbon copy of herself.”
Take your point Craig but I'm surprised that it was that speech, which Peter delivered with some glee, was the one that instantly changed Tracy's heart, mind and raison d'etre. Especially when she was in full on 'who are you to lecture me about being a parent' mode. But I guess we just have to accept that it could happen.
Originally Posted by HarkAtHer:
“Take your point Craig but I'm surprised that it was that speech, which Peter delivered with some glee, was the one that instantly changed Tracy's heart, mind and raison d'etre. Especially when she was in full on 'who are you to lecture me about being a parent' mode. But I guess we just have to accept that it could happen.”
“Take your point Craig but I'm surprised that it was that speech, which Peter delivered with some glee, was the one that instantly changed Tracy's heart, mind and raison d'etre. Especially when she was in full on 'who are you to lecture me about being a parent' mode. But I guess we just have to accept that it could happen.
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Completely agree! I'm glad it appears that Tracy is about turn a corner in her life but have to admit the way it came about was beyond contrived and slightly ridiculous!
Originally Posted by GracieL:
“Yeah but Maddie disobeyed emergency services orders. So really it is her own stupid fault as she put herself in danger.”
“Yeah but Maddie disobeyed emergency services orders. So really it is her own stupid fault as she put herself in danger.”
Originally Posted by notdebbiedingle:
“Yes as much as I loatheTracy & think she should still be serving time for Charlie's murder, I most certainly wouldn't pin Maddie's death on her, nor Kal's really, though she should certainly be feeling deeply bad about that since, without Kal she would have been responsible for another death & it would have been the daughter she claims to care so much about!!”
“Yes as much as I loatheTracy & think she should still be serving time for Charlie's murder, I most certainly wouldn't pin Maddie's death on her, nor Kal's really, though she should certainly be feeling deeply bad about that since, without Kal she would have been responsible for another death & it would have been the daughter she claims to care so much about!!”
Disturbing comments to say the least.
Originally Posted by jackol:
“Not even manslaughter. In now way did she know that a fire was going to be the result of her actions. Accidental death”
“Not even manslaughter. In now way did she know that a fire was going to be the result of her actions. Accidental death”
You should brush up on your legal knowledge. Someone can be charged and convicted for involuntary manslaughter if death is caused by an illegal action. She committed arson, which is an illegal act, that resulted in the death of others.
I am disgusted by some of the comments in this thread. It's sickening to see that some people feel her lack of remorse is acceptable. Falling standards of a society that's becoming more deplorable by the day.
Originally Posted by loco_loca:
“You should brush up on your legal knowledge. Someone can be charged and convicted for involuntary manslaughter if death is caused by an illegal action. She committed arson, which is an illegal act, that resulted in the death of others.
I am disgusted by some of the comments in this thread. It's sickening to see that some people feel her lack of remorse is acceptable. Falling standards of a society that's becoming more deplorable by the day.”
“You should brush up on your legal knowledge. Someone can be charged and convicted for involuntary manslaughter if death is caused by an illegal action. She committed arson, which is an illegal act, that resulted in the death of others.
I am disgusted by some of the comments in this thread. It's sickening to see that some people feel her lack of remorse is acceptable. Falling standards of a society that's becoming more deplorable by the day.”
Lighten up! Most of what we post is tongue in cheek humour. Tracy provides great drama and platform to cause real debate, love or loathe Tracy she pads out the forums and keeps us all talking. If every soap followed the letter of law all the time, they'd be pretty boring to watch.
Originally Posted by loco_loca:
“You should brush up on your legal knowledge. Someone can be charged and convicted for involuntary manslaughter if death is caused by an illegal action. She committed arson, which is an illegal act, that resulted in the death of others.
I am disgusted by some of the comments in this thread. It's sickening to see that some people feel her lack of remorse is acceptable. Falling standards of a society that's becoming more deplorable by the day.”
“You should brush up on your legal knowledge. Someone can be charged and convicted for involuntary manslaughter if death is caused by an illegal action. She committed arson, which is an illegal act, that resulted in the death of others.
I am disgusted by some of the comments in this thread. It's sickening to see that some people feel her lack of remorse is acceptable. Falling standards of a society that's becoming more deplorable by the day.”
No i dont think i do but you need to brush up on what arson is
Arson is the crime of intentionally and maliciously setting fire to buildings, wildland areas, vehicles or other property with the intent to cause damage. Now when did Tracey deliberately and maliciously try to burn down Carlas flat? She didnt.
She committed an illegal act by entering the flat but there was no intent whatsoever to start a fire deliberately
Originally Posted by jackol:
“No i dont think i do but you need to brush up on what arson is
Arson is the crime of intentionally and maliciously setting fire to buildings, wildland areas, vehicles or other property with the intent to cause damage. Now when did Tracey deliberately and maliciously try to burn down Carlas flat? She didnt.
She committed an illegal act by entering the flat but there was no intent whatsoever to start a fire deliberately”
“No i dont think i do but you need to brush up on what arson is
Arson is the crime of intentionally and maliciously setting fire to buildings, wildland areas, vehicles or other property with the intent to cause damage. Now when did Tracey deliberately and maliciously try to burn down Carlas flat? She didnt.
She committed an illegal act by entering the flat but there was no intent whatsoever to start a fire deliberately”
Either way her actions resulted in deaths. Jeez
Originally Posted by Mr Men:
“Either way her actions resulted in deaths. Jeez”
“Either way her actions resulted in deaths. Jeez
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Ok, youre on the wind up now..
Originally Posted by loco_loca:
“Disturbing comments to say the least.”
“Disturbing comments to say the least.”
Not sure what you find 'disturbing' about my comment here, it's hardly as though I'm condoning Tracy or her actions, I just don't happen to think that if you are going to run under an emergency services cordon when you are fully aware a fire is in full flow, for whatever reason, that your death can be blamed on anything else but your own recklessness!!
What would you have blamed Maddie's death on had the fire started by say an electrical fault ??
Originally Posted by Mr Men:
“Charlie Stubbs
Kal Nazir
Maddie Heath
She really must have mental issues, I'm shocked she cares her mums dead.”
“Charlie Stubbs
Kal Nazir
Maddie Heath
She really must have mental issues, I'm shocked she cares her mums dead.”
Tracey didn't kill Kal or Maddeh.
Kal died from being a thick moron and Maddeh was just an accident.
Originally Posted by Jazbaa1:
“Any normal person would struggle to live with themselves, like Carla is, but until now, I don't think Tracy has given it much thought never mind shown remorse.
Deirdre's death has forced her to confront the person she has become though and I think she is starting to feel guilty. Not guilty enough to tell Carla or anyone else the truth yet but perhaps she will. Eventually.”
“Any normal person would struggle to live with themselves, like Carla is, but until now, I don't think Tracy has given it much thought never mind shown remorse.
Deirdre's death has forced her to confront the person she has become though and I think she is starting to feel guilty. Not guilty enough to tell Carla or anyone else the truth yet but perhaps she will. Eventually.”
I don't think Carla seems overly bothered.
Originally Posted by notdebbiedingle:
“Not sure what you find 'disturbing' about my comment here, it's hardly as though I'm condoning Tracy or her actions, I just don't happen to think that if you are going to run under an emergency services cordon when you are fully aware a fire is in full flow, for whatever reason, that your death can be blamed on anything else but your own recklessness!!
What would you have blamed Maddie's death on had the fire started by say an electrical fault ??”
“Not sure what you find 'disturbing' about my comment here, it's hardly as though I'm condoning Tracy or her actions, I just don't happen to think that if you are going to run under an emergency services cordon when you are fully aware a fire is in full flow, for whatever reason, that your death can be blamed on anything else but your own recklessness!!
What would you have blamed Maddie's death on had the fire started by say an electrical fault ??”
I would call that an accident unless the electrician messed up.
Originally Posted by PorkchopExpress:
“I don't think Carla seems overly bothered.”
“I don't think Carla seems overly bothered.”
No, she doesn't. She's full of self pity for being shunned, that's about it.
Originally Posted by srhgts:
“No, she doesn't. She's full of self pity for being shunned, that's about it.”
“No, she doesn't. She's full of self pity for being shunned, that's about it.”
Either way it was an accident and I would be the same. She does care and her future addiction suggests she does care.
Alcohol and gambling worries!
Originally Posted by PorkchopExpress:
“I don't think Carla seems overly bothered.”
“I don't think Carla seems overly bothered.”
Really
She seems highly cut up about it. Isn't the gambling and anger at Roy etc all symptoms of her upset.
Originally Posted by PorkchopExpress:
“Tracey didn't kill Kal or Maddeh.
Kal died from being a thick moron and Maddeh was just an accident.”
“Tracey didn't kill Kal or Maddeh.
Kal died from being a thick moron and Maddeh was just an accident.”
Tracey went into Carla's flat with the intention of killing Carla and though she relented it shows that murdering is something she sees as a way of dealing with problems
She didn't murder Kal or Maddie but her carelessness lead to their deaths. Anyone with even a modicum of humanity would feel bad about what happened but not only does Tracy not do guilt she is perfectly happy, thrilled even for Carla to take the full brunt of the blame
You would think knowing that her actions could have lead to her daughter's death would have been the kick up the back side she obviously needs to turn over a new leaf but no as she would have had no sympathy for that but her mum's death is a god send for her as she can milk the sympathy to the hilt
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