Originally Posted by yellowlabbie:
“He most definitely did.
”
“He most definitely did.
”
Indeed. Also Marc mentioned it in the jasmine bed hopping context aswell. Nothing to do with the jade situation
Big Brother: Cristian's sex tape shame
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Indeed. Also Marc mentioned it in the jasmine bed hopping context aswell. Nothing to do with the jade situation
Originally Posted by yellowlabbie:
“Maybe the hms shouldn't pretend to be holier than thou, it really does make them look so stupid, especially Cristian who continually called Jade a 'bed hopper' and was partly responsible for her eviction and some called him 'sweet and innocent'LOL.”
“Maybe the hms shouldn't pretend to be holier than thou, it really does make them look so stupid, especially Cristian who continually called Jade a 'bed hopper' and was partly responsible for her eviction and some called him 'sweet and innocent'LOL.”
Originally Posted by desmenelope:
“He never called her a bed hopper once, never mind "continually". It was Marc who branded her that.
If I've read the article correctly it sounds as though the sex tape came up in a conversation in the house. Bit weird the actual conversation wasn't shown but they're bringing it up now.”
“He never called her a bed hopper once, never mind "continually". It was Marc who branded her that.
If I've read the article correctly it sounds as though the sex tape came up in a conversation in the house. Bit weird the actual conversation wasn't shown but they're bringing it up now.”
Originally Posted by sorcha_healy27:
“I think you'll find he did”
“I think you'll find he did”
Originally Posted by yellowlabbie:
“He most definitely did.”
“He most definitely did.
”
He said it a maximum of a couple of times over the course of one day. One day out of the 39 days Jade was in there. That's hardly 'continually'.
Originally Posted by JasonStreet:
“He said it a maximum of a couple of times over the course of one day. One day out of the 39 days Jade was in there. That's hardly 'continually'.”
“He said it a maximum of a couple of times over the course of one day. One day out of the 39 days Jade was in there. That's hardly 'continually'.”
ThE amount of times wasn't in dispute
Originally Posted by sorcha_healy27:
“ThE amount of times wasn't in dispute”
“ThE amount of times wasn't in dispute
”
I did slightly exaggerate
Originally Posted by linmic:
“It looks like anyone considering applying for future BB's will have to have a totally pure back history or risk BB exposing them because they did something in their past. Which i would imagine considerably reduces the amount of applicants.”
“It looks like anyone considering applying for future BB's will have to have a totally pure back history or risk BB exposing them because they did something in their past. Which i would imagine considerably reduces the amount of applicants.”
Not necessarily . All they need do is be honest and comfortable in their honest revelations being revealed .Not all of us want to watch angelic little choirboys and girls. Even bad boys have good points .
Someone pretending to stick up for chubby girls while having slated them on twitter will be outed . Same with the sex tape issue . Just hold your hands up , admit to your fault and own your own crap, simple as that . Nobody appreciates a whiney cry baby running to BB to make his butt hurt better .
Originally Posted by sorcha_healy27:
“ThE amount of times wasn't in dispute”
“ThE amount of times wasn't in dispute
”
Originally Posted by yellowlabbie:
“I did slightly exaggerate”
“I did slightly exaggerate
”
Doing something continually means doing something frequently over a period of time. Which is not what happened.
Sorry to be pedantic, I'm just getting frustrated with the smear campaign that seems to be going on against Cristian lately.
Originally Posted by JasonStreet:
“Doing something continually means doing something frequently over a period of time. Which is not what happened.
Sorry to be pedantic, I'm just getting frustrated with the smear campaign that seems to be going on against Cristian lately.”
“Doing something continually means doing something frequently over a period of time. Which is not what happened.
Sorry to be pedantic, I'm just getting frustrated with the smear campaign that seems to be going on against Cristian lately.”
All the housemates have had criticism on here. Par for the DS course
Originally Posted by JasonStreet:
“Doing something continually means doing something frequently over a period of time. Which is not what happened.
Sorry to be pedantic, I'm just getting frustrated with the smear campaign that seems to be going on against Cristian lately.”
“Doing something continually means doing something frequently over a period of time. Which is not what happened.
Sorry to be pedantic, I'm just getting frustrated with the smear campaign that seems to be going on against Cristian lately.”
Do you think he smeared Jade? He did it when she was up for eviction.
Originally Posted by sorcha_healy27:
“All the housemates have had criticism on here. Par for the DS course”
“All the housemates have had criticism on here. Par for the DS course
”
I really meant from BB. They seem to be giving him a hard time lately. I agree about the forum though.
Originally Posted by yellowlabbie:
“Do you think he smeared Jade? He did it when she was up for eviction.”
“Do you think he smeared Jade? He did it when she was up for eviction.”
With respect, I've debated this topic endlessly in the past and don't really want to get into it again. There are too many fires to put out at the moment!
Originally Posted by JasonStreet:
“I really meant from BB. They seem to be giving him a hard time lately. I agree about the forum though.”
“I really meant from BB. They seem to be giving him a hard time lately. I agree about the forum though.”
Ah ok
I felt more sorry for jack though. Targeted because of his weight
Originally Posted by JasonStreet:
“With respect, I've debated this topic endlessly in the past and don't really want to get into it again. There are too many fires to put out at the moment!”
“With respect, I've debated this topic endlessly in the past and don't really want to get into it again. There are too many fires to put out at the moment!
”
So you agree he did smear Jade
Originally Posted by Alrightmate:
“[sarcasm mode]
Maybe they've decided to not show Danny's tweets in tonight's show because they haven't got time. They have a full hour of action packed house events to cram into the show that they just can't fit them in.
[/sarcasm mode]”
“[sarcasm mode]
Maybe they've decided to not show Danny's tweets in tonight's show because they haven't got time. They have a full hour of action packed house events to cram into the show that they just can't fit them in.
[/sarcasm mode]”
Whahahahha......yeah, right. (rolls eyes)
Originally Posted by yellowlabbie:
“He most definitely did.”
“He most definitely did.
”
He called her a gameplayer, not a bedhopper. Rather different connotations.
Originally Posted by sorcha_healy27:
“Indeed. Also Marc mentioned it in the jasmine bed hopping context aswell. Nothing to do with the jade situation”
“Indeed. Also Marc mentioned it in the jasmine bed hopping context aswell. Nothing to do with the jade situation
”
Marc's exact words (to the Diary Room, not to her face) were "Jade is the ultimate bedhopper". I fail to see what that had to do with Jasmine, who he hadn't met yet.
Originally Posted by desmenelope:
“He called her a gameplayer, not a bedhopper. Rather different connotations.
Marc's exact words (to the Diary Room, not to her face) were "Jade is the ultimate bedhopper". I fail to see what that had to do with Jasmine, who he hadn't met yet.”
“He called her a gameplayer, not a bedhopper. Rather different connotations.
Marc's exact words (to the Diary Room, not to her face) were "Jade is the ultimate bedhopper". I fail to see what that had to do with Jasmine, who he hadn't met yet.”
Marc teased Christian about jasmine bed hopping. I had forgotten he also mentioned it in the diary room. On any case this thread is about Christian and Christian said it to Jade's face.
Originally Posted by Monkey Tennis:
“ This thread is amusing but only because if it were any number of other HM's (especially if it were one of the females such as Sarah or Jade) I highly suspect they would get torn to pieces on here, and for far far less. Anyone threatening to bring up a sex tape to a current or an ex is guilty of pretty sleazy sh*tty behaviour. I don't see the masses come out in force when stuff about other HM's has been revealed from before they entered the house, in fact some people seem to positively revel in it.
Surely it's either ok to bring stuff up from outside the house or its not. When people pick and choose, the credibility of certain arguments declines.”
“ This thread is amusing but only because if it were any number of other HM's (especially if it were one of the females such as Sarah or Jade) I highly suspect they would get torn to pieces on here, and for far far less. Anyone threatening to bring up a sex tape to a current or an ex is guilty of pretty sleazy sh*tty behaviour. I don't see the masses come out in force when stuff about other HM's has been revealed from before they entered the house, in fact some people seem to positively revel in it.
Surely it's either ok to bring stuff up from outside the house or its not. When people pick and choose, the credibility of certain arguments declines.”
Some will pick & choose, not all, I can think of plenty instances I've defended & or criticised HMs regardless of my opinion. Any of this sort of 'Danny's tweets Cristian's behaviour' stuff I'll criticise BB for, as I don't think it should be going on. I'm not madly keen on either of them but as far as I'm concerned it's the stuff of modern-day 'lads culture' and the examples don't seem to me to be much different/better/worse than what your average evening down the pub would yield up, if you canvassed those present. It's not particularly edifying but it's daft teenagers & would need to be worse for me to get worked up over.
Originally Posted by shelleyj89:
“Yes, they may have done. That is my point. And that's what's malicious about it. They've not flat out said that's what he said or did, they've dropped the seed and worded it in a way that only suggests it, which then causes people to speculate and jump to conclusions. And without knowing all the facts, I don't think that is fair.”
“Yes, they may have done. That is my point. And that's what's malicious about it. They've not flat out said that's what he said or did, they've dropped the seed and worded it in a way that only suggests it, which then causes people to speculate and jump to conclusions. And without knowing all the facts, I don't think that is fair.”
Agreed, unfair - & even with facts you can make quite a different tale out of the same thing. I can without question think of ways you could make this sound better/different/worse.
Originally Posted by Monkey Tennis:
“Yes- you're missing the fact that when it comes to Cristian's devoted following the poor boy can do no wrong. He is also well fit. Innit.
This thread is amusing but only because if it were any number of other HM's (especially if it were one of the females such as Sarah or Jade) I highly suspect they would get torn to pieces on here, and for far far less. Anyone threatening to bring up a sex tape to a current or an ex is guilty of pretty sleazy sh*tty behaviour. I don't see the masses come out in force when stuff about other HM's has been revealed from before they entered the house, in fact some people seem to positively revel in it.
Surely it's either ok to bring stuff up from ourside the house or its not. When people pick and choose, the credibility of certain arguments declines.
It certainly puts MC Cornflake's totally out of line and pretty childish/ petty accusations towards Jade (who was guilty of nothing more than being a woman really) into context.
Cristian could pretty much do anything and there will still be the same old faces leaping to his defence. I said it before but certain posts on him remind me a little of One Directioners on twitter at times.
OK, think I'm done here.*puts on bullet proof helmet*. 'Cornflakers'- Let the backlash begin.”
“Yes- you're missing the fact that when it comes to Cristian's devoted following the poor boy can do no wrong. He is also well fit. Innit.
This thread is amusing but only because if it were any number of other HM's (especially if it were one of the females such as Sarah or Jade) I highly suspect they would get torn to pieces on here, and for far far less. Anyone threatening to bring up a sex tape to a current or an ex is guilty of pretty sleazy sh*tty behaviour. I don't see the masses come out in force when stuff about other HM's has been revealed from before they entered the house, in fact some people seem to positively revel in it.
Surely it's either ok to bring stuff up from ourside the house or its not. When people pick and choose, the credibility of certain arguments declines.
It certainly puts MC Cornflake's totally out of line and pretty childish/ petty accusations towards Jade (who was guilty of nothing more than being a woman really) into context.
Cristian could pretty much do anything and there will still be the same old faces leaping to his defence. I said it before but certain posts on him remind me a little of One Directioners on twitter at times.
OK, think I'm done here.*puts on bullet proof helmet*. 'Cornflakers'- Let the backlash begin.
”
No backlash. You can think what you want. I'm happy in the knowledge that my opinion would be exactly the same regardless of the house mate.
I would say the only time my view may differ would be on Helen, as things she had done before entering the house were well known. Not that I think they should have been used against her in tasks like this, and they weren't.
Originally Posted by yellowlabbie:
“Maybe the hms shouldn't pretend to be holier than thou, it really does make them look so stupid, especially Cristian who continually called Jade a 'bed hopper' and was partly responsible for her eviction and some called him 'sweet and innocent'LOL.”
“Maybe the hms shouldn't pretend to be holier than thou, it really does make them look so stupid, especially Cristian who continually called Jade a 'bed hopper' and was partly responsible for her eviction and some called him 'sweet and innocent'LOL.”
We are in the minority here, I think, but actually I too prefer the 'warts and all' approach rather than the looking the other way version where FMs trot out "I only judge them on what they've done in the house."
That leaves a wide open gate for some rotters to grab a lot of money.
These days we have semi-pro HMs where, other than those playing the part of Crazy Bitch (Harry) or Motormouth Psycho Man (Mark), nearly everyone is busy being "just ordinary little me", as instructed by their AGENTS.
So when we find out they are actually scummers, I prefer that the hypocrisy they've displayed IN the house is exposed.
Indeed, we might have escaped some poor winners in the past if the truth about their real nature was on the table.
It's about all the reality we'll get these days.
At the end of the day, he was only young and teenagers do stupid things. Understandably, he obviously feels ashamed and humiliated for his actions but you can't blame him- especially if you don't actually know the situation yourself.
Originally Posted by little-monster:
“I wonder if they will shame Joel who tweeted he would like to do away with the human rights act.”
“I wonder if they will shame Joel who tweeted he would like to do away with the human rights act.”
Originally Posted by Jakobjoe:
“possibly not as theres no shame about wanting to abolish it. its a political view point a lot of people have”
“possibly not as theres no shame about wanting to abolish it. its a political view point a lot of people have”
Exactly. The Tories *spits*
are actively seeking currently to have the Human Rights Act abolished, it's hardly a shameful tweet, it's what they are seeking to do currently.
Originally Posted by muggins14:
“Exactly. The Tories *spits* are actively seeking currently to have the Human Rights Act abolished, it's hardly a shameful tweet, it's what they are seeking to do currently.”
“Exactly. The Tories *spits*
are actively seeking currently to have the Human Rights Act abolished, it's hardly a shameful tweet, it's what they are seeking to do currently.”
They want to replace it with a British human rights law so that Europe can't interfere in British cases.
I think that's reasonable. .
They're not actually abolishing human rights.
Originally Posted by sorcha_healy27:
“They want to replace it with a British human rights law so that Europe can't interfere in British cases.
I think that's reasonable. .
They're not actually abolishing human rights.”
“They want to replace it with a British human rights law so that Europe can't interfere in British cases.
I think that's reasonable. .
They're not actually abolishing human rights.”
Please don't come on here talking sense and stating facts. It lowers the tone!
Originally Posted by JanisElizabeth:
“Please don't come on here talking sense and stating facts. It lowers the tone!”
“Please don't come on here talking sense and stating facts. It lowers the tone!
”
LOL!
Originally Posted by yellowlabbie:
“Maybe the hms shouldn't pretend to be holier than thou, it really does make them look so stupid, especially Cristian who continually called Jade a 'bed hopper' and was partly responsible for her eviction and some called him 'sweet and innocent'LOL.”
“Maybe the hms shouldn't pretend to be holier than thou, it really does make them look so stupid, especially Cristian who continually called Jade a 'bed hopper' and was partly responsible for her eviction and some called him 'sweet and innocent'LOL.”
What happened between Jade and Cristian, and whatever was said, was in the context of the BB house. It was their argument to argue through, about events in the house.
Originally Posted by Alrightmate:
“If it was a one-sided situation where Cristian used the tape to end his relationship with someone by threatening to show it, then I think it makes little difference if the word 'blackmail' was used or not.
But of course we can't be sure of the true context yet. If we ever will.
Whichever way you look at it, it really is a tacky, shitty thing for BB to do. It really is a low shot and cheapens the show to a level even lower than where it stood before. It';s hardly surprising why the show has put so many viewers off it for so many years.”
“If it was a one-sided situation where Cristian used the tape to end his relationship with someone by threatening to show it, then I think it makes little difference if the word 'blackmail' was used or not.
But of course we can't be sure of the true context yet. If we ever will.
Whichever way you look at it, it really is a tacky, shitty thing for BB to do. It really is a low shot and cheapens the show to a level even lower than where it stood before. It';s hardly surprising why the show has put so many viewers off it for so many years.”
bib - I totally agree, I've been saying it all series long. I will go by what I see within the confines of the BB house - BB are supposed to be showing us what happens within the house, not bringing in information from outside to cause arguments.
Originally Posted by Sarahmonial2:
“Gosh everyone is jumping to conclusions. This is THE DAILY STAR, they thrive on sensationalism and falsehoods.
Who is to say the girlfriend didn't threaten to do something despicable first?
As several have said, we know very little and will likely never know the whole story.”
“Gosh everyone is jumping to conclusions. This is THE DAILY STAR, they thrive on sensationalism and falsehoods.
Who is to say the girlfriend didn't threaten to do something despicable first?
As several have said, we know very little and will likely never know the whole story.”
Exactly.
Originally Posted by Alrightmate:
“Why? We're supposed to be watching a TV show based on how they live in a house.
Have people become so desensitised to BB's interfering that it is now considered normal and acceptable to feed external information into there now?”
“Why? We're supposed to be watching a TV show based on how they live in a house.
Have people become so desensitised to BB's interfering that it is now considered normal and acceptable to feed external information into there now?”
Indeed.
Originally Posted by Fudd:
“The point of keeping everything in the House and excluding outside information is context. Even if it's edit driven things that happen in the House tend to have some context; whether it be through humour, anger, passion etc. Throwing in a tweet or comment from the outside without context doesn't give the person much of a chance to defend themselves and results in judgements based on very little knowledge.”
“The point of keeping everything in the House and excluding outside information is context. Even if it's edit driven things that happen in the House tend to have some context; whether it be through humour, anger, passion etc. Throwing in a tweet or comment from the outside without context doesn't give the person much of a chance to defend themselves and results in judgements based on very little knowledge.”
It's a kangaroo court every night.
Originally Posted by Alrightmate:
“Maybe a non-malicious way of wording it would be Cristian saying "Let's hope that our little sex tape doesn't somehow accidentally end up on the internet. Because that would be a terrible thing to happen wouldn't it?" Like a Bond villain would say in a seemingly non-explicit manner.
At least he could say that technically it wasn't a threat and that he wasn't blackmailing her, he was just saying it would be an 'unfortunate accident' if it did happen.”
“Maybe a non-malicious way of wording it would be Cristian saying "Let's hope that our little sex tape doesn't somehow accidentally end up on the internet. Because that would be a terrible thing to happen wouldn't it?" Like a Bond villain would say in a seemingly non-explicit manner.
At least he could say that technically it wasn't a threat and that he wasn't blackmailing her, he was just saying it would be an 'unfortunate accident' if it did happen.
”
Perhaps it went along the lines of Cristian saying to the female/male - look, we broke up, you've called me 55 times each day for 6 weeks, it has to stop. It's over, if you can't understand that then... (talks about the tape they made together).
Or not.
We don't know, only he and the girl know.
I don't want to know, we didn't need to know, just as we don't need to know about Chloe's Dad or anything else. It's not relevant to the game of Big Brother.
Shoddy work all around BB, and FMs who relish outing all the info they can on HMs personal lives for their own amusement. If BB's not entertaining people enough as a show that they have to dig up dirt about everybody, embellish it and use it to bash housemates with (who have no recourse to respond at this time), then really - watch Judge Rinder instead.
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