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Who is this new Joel person?
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TV_Steve
14-07-2015
What's with all this singing and dancing and pranks?

Where has this new personality come from?
Fudd
14-07-2015
Originally Posted by TV_Steve:
“What's with all this singing and dancing and pranks?

Where has this new personality come from?”

Reading the twitter feed/website this side of him has been there for quite a while, it just hasn't been shown on the highlights show.
Flowes
14-07-2015
Originally Posted by TV_Steve:
“What's with all this singing and dancing and pranks?

Where has this new personality come from?”

It's not new, we've seen elements of it throughout the series
connor the judg
14-07-2015
It's not new. It's been there all the time.
Gwaed Waedlyd
14-07-2015
Too busy focusing on the legends and Marc I think

A lot of evicted houseguests have said he is always trying to rebel against big Brother

Plus on twitter feeds for weeks they always post Joel is signing etc.
ForGodsSake
14-07-2015
he's obnoxious.
Littlegreen42
14-07-2015
Originally Posted by ForGodsSake:
“he's obnoxious.”

So are these same digs.

Joel has always been like this, don't you recall Katy Perry earlier in the series?

and...

http://33.media.tumblr.com/72fa0d63b...kb3fo1_250.gif

atko
14-07-2015
They just focused on his scheming side rather than that side of him. He has no real personality so his objective throughout the series is to belittle other people & try to make them look small or bad to the viewer through his questioning.
HonestLee
14-07-2015
Sends my 'Dar' off the scale
jeanoj
14-07-2015
Originally Posted by TV_Steve:
“What's with all this singing and dancing and pranks?

Where has this new personality come from?”

If you had watched some of the videos on the website, the fun side of Joel has been there all the time. It just isn't shown on the highlights.
NatashaSmythe
14-07-2015
Originally Posted by atko:
“They just focused on his scheming side rather than that side of him. He has no real personality so his objective throughout the series is to belittle other people & try to make them look small or bad to the viewer through his questioning.”

I find his questioning shows him to be intelligent, wanting to learn more etc.
atko
14-07-2015
Originally Posted by NatashaSmythe:
“I find his questioning shows him to be intelligent, wanting to learn more etc.”

I think more than one housemate would disagree with you. We have seen at least 3 of them refuse to answer his questions because they knew what he was up to in their opinion.
NatashaSmythe
14-07-2015
Originally Posted by atko:
“I think more than one housemate would disagree with you. We have seen at least 3 of them refuse to answer his questions because they knew what he was up to in their opinion.”

In their opinion and yours but I maintain imo he is intelligent and that is what clever people do, ask questions to learn more about people and things.
Fudd
14-07-2015
Originally Posted by atko:
“They just focused on his scheming side rather than that side of him. He has no real personality so his objective throughout the series is to belittle other people & try to make them look small or bad to the viewer through his questioning.”

In the first sentence you suggest he has a scheming side and playful side then in the second that he has no personality?
atko
15-07-2015
Originally Posted by Fudd:
“In the first sentence you suggest he has a scheming side and playful side then in the second that he has no personality? ”

I never mentioned a playful side, that was mentioned in the thread....it's all for the cameras, it's not a natural part of his personality. He knows when the cameras will be on him or when to play up to the cameras....when music is playing that part is obvious! Joel does everything for the cameras. If you listen to Joel talk, he talks in that slow dreary way where someone is carefully choosing their words wisely....clearly thinking about every word he comes out with in case he looks bad. It is so obvious! And no, he has no personality!
Fudd
15-07-2015
Originally Posted by atko:
“I never mentioned a playful side, that was mentioned in the thread....it's all for the cameras, it's not a natural part of his personality. He knows when the cameras will be on him or when to play up to the cameras....when music is playing that part is obvious! Joel does everything for the cameras. If you listen to Joel talk, he talks in that slow dreary way where someone is carefully choosing their words wisely....clearly thinking about every word he comes out with in case he looks bad. It is so obvious! And no, he has no personality!”

You said 'that side of him' so you must be referring to something he's shown. Even if he is someone who decides to put on a show at the right times, or picks his words carefully, then that's still a personality even if that's one you personally cannot take to.
Salv*
15-07-2015
Since the start. The clips and the weekly feed showed Joel always being this animated. The HLs just only started showing it though.
atko
15-07-2015
Originally Posted by Fudd:
“You said 'that side of him' so you must be referring to something he's shown. Even if he is someone who decides to put on a show at the right times, or picks his words carefully, then that's still a personality even if that's one you personally cannot take to.”

No you are confusing personality & acting up...the latter otherwise being fake!
Sasparella
15-07-2015
All the HM's that have come out have said that Joel is really funny and makes them laugh, does anyone actually listen ?
missyalicia
15-07-2015
I think hes been touched by nostalgia in run up to leaving the house also.
johnan
15-07-2015
Mr Smug is in overdrive.
Fudd
15-07-2015
Originally Posted by atko:
“No you are confusing personality & acting up...the latter otherwise being fake!”

So it's a constructed personality he's chosen to show 24/7? I'm guessing he's showing it 24/7 as not many, if any, evicted Housemates have stated he's different to live with to what's been shown.
ForGodsSake
15-07-2015
Originally Posted by Littlegreen42:
“So are these same digs.

Joel has always been like this, don't you recall Katy Perry earlier in the series?

and...

http://33.media.tumblr.com/72fa0d63b...kb3fo1_250.gif

”

He's a prig.
can't stand him and no idea what you mean about Katie Perry.
JasonStreet
15-07-2015
I recall he started off like this but stepped back a bit when Marc and Helen were there. They were such an oppressive force that most of the HMs' personalities were somewhat stifled. Good to see him back!
dd68
15-07-2015
The butterfly is emerging from the chrysalis
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