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Hands up if you dislike Joel because he a Tory
I can't understand what all this class warfare is about. It seems that a lot of people have taken a dislike to Joel because he is interesed in politics and even worse supports the Tories!
Well I'm not happy that they won the election but I don't go around forming my views about someone by first asking what political party they support. And then assigning them with aĺl the negative attributes that I associate with a party I'm not keen on. All the descriptions of him being slimy, smug, manipulative etc are very harsh. To my mind a lot of those views can be said of most of the housemates at some time or another. I think a llot of people distrust Joel because he is defintely not your typical teenager - he seems to have been born old or just out of his time. But then the little boy in him escapes and it's a sight to behold. Love, love, love that he's into ABBA, can do a slut drop with the best of them, is not afraid to let out a girly scream, but is interested in other people and can hold an intelligent conversation. in a sea of mock stupidity (or actual in the case of Danny) Joel is breath of fresh air! So Joel for the win or at least in the top three along with Nick or (ducks first) Jack as although a moaner and a bit bitchy has been interesting and insightful at times. |
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I don't know why being a Tory is such a bad thing. Aren't all politicians/parties pretty much the same in this Country?
If you'd said, "Hands up if you dislike Joel because he wants to be a politician" then it would probably make more sense to me. But even then, it's his life he can do what he wants. I don't think there's anything more admirable about being a Labour or Lib Dem or UKIP supporter, than being a Tory supporter. Just my opinion. |
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I dislike Joel because he's a pompous arse.
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No, him being a Tory doesn't worry me in the slightest. It's not a General Election it's BB and I hate the Tory party.
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OK. Hands down.
Now hands up if you like Joel because he's a Tory. |
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I've never voted tory and I never will but i'm voting for Joel cos he seems like a decent guy
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I can't understand what all this class warfare is about. It seems that a lot of people have taken a dislike to Joel because he is interesed in politics and even worse supports the Tories!
Well I'm not happy that they won the election but I don't go around forming my views about someone by first asking what political party they support. And then assigning them with aĺl the negative attributes that I associate with a party I'm not keen on. All the descriptions of him being slimy, smug, manipulative etc are very harsh. To my mind a lot of those views can be said of most of the housemates at some time or another. I think a llot of people distrust Joel because he is defintely not your typical teenager - he seems to have been born old or just out of his time. But then the little boy in him escapes and it's a sight to behold. Love, love, love that he's into ABBA, can do a slut drop with the best of them, is not afraid to let out a girly scream, but is interested in other people and can hold an intelligent conversation. in a sea of mock stupidity (or actual in the case of Danny) Joel is breath of fresh air! So Joel for the win or at least in the top three along with Nick or (ducks first) Jack as although a moaner and a bit bitchy has been interesting and insightful at times. |
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Can't stand the Tories and so happy their Fox Hunting vote got delayed, idiots !
I could go on for hours about how stupid this country was to vote them in, but have had my political moan in the early weeks and this is a BB forum. He is only young, hopefully he will switch as they won't be in next time. Joel to win ![]() ...or Jack
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I quite like Joel, despite his politics. He's a bit too robotic for me sometimes, and he does come over as a snob, but none of them are perfect.
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I dislike him because he has no personality whatsoever & isn't remotely interesting. His questioning other housemates to make them look bad are certainly not endearing & his 'performing' how he believes the public want to see him is so annoying!
For me Joel justs like debating with others and I enjoy that side of him as he asks the questions that I want answering. And more importantly he doesn't accept nonsense answers and will probe the others. This is what I watch BB for. It's is to find out about the housemates and their motivations and not for silly tasks where they get dunked in fish guts. |
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hands down, I don't agree with his politics but this isn't a communist country!
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I hate the tories and love Joel.
I think it's because his heart seems to be in the right place even if his political leanings are a bit off the mark. |
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Someone's political views don't sway me at all when it comes to BB or any reality/talent show. I like Joel and I would love him to win, but I also like Nick and can cope with Jack or even Cristian winning, but just not Danny or Chloe.
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I dislike the fact that he is a Tory, because I don't like the Tories and I do like Joel. I like him more than anyone in the house actually. I also like that he has such a keen interest in politics, not because I appreciate politics but because I find his passion laudable. And anyone who thinks politics is pointless, or that a young man being interested in politics is weird, is just narrow-minded. There may be many aspects of our current political system that people rightly dislike, but the solution to that is political reform, not ignorance.
Democracy for the win!
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I dislike Joel because he's a pompous arse.
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I dislike Joel because he's a pompous arse.
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I like him. He did seem a bit hung up about Harry's nudity though. (I am a conservative btw - just to add my two penn'th).
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I dislike Joel because he's a pompous arse.
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Same here, he is pompous and has a very high opinion of himself, which can go hand in hand with wanting to be a politician. I don't vote Tory therefore why would I vote for someone claiming to want to represent them. Plus he obviously can't let it go that Jack choose to take the £24 k. Joel thinks he will win and wanted it all!
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I dislike Joel because he's a pompous arse.
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I don't know why being a Tory is such a bad thing. Aren't all politicians/parties pretty much the same in this Country?
If you'd said, "Hands up if you dislike Joel because he wants to be a politician" then it would probably make more sense to me. But even then, it's his life he can do what he wants. I don't think there's anything more admirable about being a Labour or Lib Dem or UKIP supporter, than being a Tory supporter. Just my opinion. I think being a UKIP member would be even worse for most people. |
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I dislike Joel because he's a pompous arse.
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I can't, I'm typing and holding a cup of tea.
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I dislike Joel because I don't like his nature. I dislike the Tory party for their policies.
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Joel being a councillor - a school governor - involved with two charities - means this NINETEEN year old is one exceptional individual trying to do good for his local community... I wish there were more people like him interested in helping their local community... pompous? Occasionally perhaps but at least he hasn't pretended to be any one else...
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