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Will Joel get the gay vote?
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Dave_62
15-07-2015
He isn't gay but he does like a lot of the stereotypical gay cultural stuff.

ABBA, singing show tunes badly, squealing, bitching, pouting, wierd efeminate dancing, a little mincing and a touch of dressing in women's clothes.

Has he done enough or do you have to actually be gay for the gay vote?
vanora
15-07-2015
Just because your gay dos not mean they are going to vote for him. only if they think he is the winner, How stupid a question, its like saying will the Danny the heterosexual get the vote because they are straight
yohinnchild
15-07-2015
Well I am gay and am/ have voted for Joel. However I doubt the two go hand in hand
little-monster
15-07-2015
I doubt it. Cristian is the type to win over gay men viewers.
Littlegreen42
15-07-2015
I don't know?

This thread made me laugh.
mmpfb
15-07-2015
He's not getting my gay vote.
Dave_62
15-07-2015
Originally Posted by vanora:
“Just because your gay dos not mean they are going to vote for him. only if they think he is the winner, How stupid a question, its like saying will the Danny the heterosexual get the vote because they are straight”

Not a stupid question.

Some don't believe in concepts of demographic bias,appeal and marketing and that's ok. Billions are spent on its study and application and it is very effective. Some still think the earth is flat.
Dave_62
15-07-2015
Originally Posted by mmpfb:
“He's not getting my gay vote.”

Is that anything to do with his not being gay but associating himself with stereotypical gay culture or because he's a bit of a dick?
ZuluKing3000
15-07-2015
Originally Posted by little-monster:
“I doubt it. Cristian is the type to win over gay men viewers.”

While Cristian will have a lot of gay admirers due to his looks, I think that men (unlike a lot of women) are able to separate their sexual attraction to a person and that same individual's worthiness as a winner. They realise that if Cristian was not to win, then it would not prevent them from lusting after him or his pictures in the future, so are more likely to vote for a winner based on other factors.
PercyBysshe
15-07-2015
He'll get the Welsh vote.
mmpfb
15-07-2015
Originally Posted by Dave_62:
“Is that anything to do with his not being gay but associating himself with stereotypical gay culture or because he's a bit of a dick?”

It's nothing to do with gayness, perceived or otherwise. It's everything to do with him being snide, condescending, petulant and prissy, with a generous side-order of disingenuous unpleasantness.
AndrewPd
15-07-2015
He won't be getting my vote and I am a half-welsh gay.
AndrewPd
15-07-2015
Originally Posted by little-monster:
“I doubt it. Cristian is the type to win over gay men viewers.”

I don't want to vote for a plank of wood.
Selena
15-07-2015
Originally Posted by PercyBysshe:
“He'll get the Welsh vote.”

He won't be getting my welsh vote.
pugamo
15-07-2015
Originally Posted by PercyBysshe:
“He'll get the Welsh vote.”

He will benefit from regional voting as much as any other HM.
qwerty_1234
15-07-2015
I don't think the gay vote really exists - unless there's a "fabulous" diva type housemate - Nadia, Gina etc. and even then, it's not really much worth. How many winners previously could you blame on a gay vote?
SULLA
15-07-2015
Originally Posted by AndrewPd:
“He won't be getting my vote and I am a half-welsh gay.”

I'm a quarter Welsh guy. He gets my vote.
Dave_62
15-07-2015
Originally Posted by qwerty_1234:
“I don't think the gay vote really exists - unless there's a "fabulous" diva type housemate - Nadia, Gina etc. and even then, it's not really much worth. How many winners previously could you blame on a gay vote?”

How many gay winners has there been?

Glynn was proper welsh but was he gay yet?

Joel isn't gay and is a unionist. Will he get the Welsh vote even?
qwerty_1234
15-07-2015
Originally Posted by Dave_62:
“How many gay winners has there been?

Glynn was proper welsh but was he gay yet?

Joel isn't gay and is a unionist. Will he get the Welsh vote even?”

If we look across all of the series, including celebrity:

Brian Dowling (twice)
Rylan Clarke
Julian Clarey

If we include "LGBT" winners, Nadia Almada, Luke A and perhaps even Alex Reid.

Do we think they were due to (in part) a "gay vote"?

Personally, I don't. Nadia probably reflects it best but the others probably more because they picked up regular voters because they were nice/funny.

EDIT: Glynn wasn't out during his series, and finished second to Pete Bennett.
Penny Crayon
15-07-2015
Originally Posted by PercyBysshe:
“He'll get the Welsh vote.”

Same thing really JOKE!!!!!!!

I don't think he'll have particularly enamoured himself with the gay community. The episode with Aaron might (or might not) have gone down well.

Hard to say really.

Perhaps I shouldn't really have bothered replying as I really couldn't say.

I would say that my (gay) son and his partner simply can't stand him as they find his smugness and craftiness quite off putting - they're not keen on Tories either - so that's two gay votes not going his way.
Dave_62
15-07-2015
Originally Posted by Penny Crayon:
“Same thing really JOKE!!!!!!!
)”



He's neither welsh nor gay, which pretty much makes him disabled.
minxymoo
15-07-2015
im neither welsh or gay and hes getting my votes because hes the most articulate entertaining hm left and also the least desperate to win.
douknowotimean?
15-07-2015
I'm welsh. In fact I live in the valleys. There's no way on earth would he get our vote. No one up here would associate with or support anyone who thinks the Tories are the best thing since sliced bread.
teresagreen
15-07-2015
Originally Posted by Dave_62:
“He isn't gay but he does like a lot of the stereotypical gay cultural stuff.

ABBA, singing show tunes badly, squealing, bitching, pouting, wierd efeminate dancing, a little mincing and a touch of dressing in women's clothes.

Has he done enough or do you have to actually be gay for the gay vote?”

Why would he get the gay vote? Why would it matter? Is the gay vote worth more than the 'straight' vote? What is this obsession with peoples' sexuality?
teresagreen
15-07-2015
Originally Posted by minxymoo:
“im neither welsh or gay and hes getting my votes because hes the most articulate entertaining hm left and also the least desperate to win.”

yes; me too.
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