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Joel educating Danny
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Tonya69
15-07-2015
If I was D*nny I would be pretty embarrassed being educated by a 19 year old about stuff that should have sunk in at school. Although Joel was incorrect about the Queen having to approve laws, that hasn't been around for a long time.

I think New York might have something to say about London supposedly being the finance capital of the world too.

The thing is, with this years housemates you can pretty much claim anything without much argument or correction.
Pitman
15-07-2015
you could tell Danny that Gandhi was the British canoeing champion and he'd believe you
Tonya69
15-07-2015
Originally Posted by Pitman:
“you could tell Danny that Gandhi was the British canoeing champion and he'd believe you ”

Well, if he googled it he wouldn't get much joy. Imagine his reaction when Google says "did you mean c a n o e?"
Pitman
15-07-2015
Originally Posted by Tonya69:
“Well, if he googled it he wouldn't get much joy. Imagine his reaction when Google says "did you mean c a n o e?"”

the way he spells it I think he'd more likely get the congo
Amelia_Sutherla
15-07-2015
Originally Posted by Tonya69:
“If I was D*nny I would be pretty embarrassed being educated by a 19 year old about stuff that should have sunk in at school. Although Joel was incorrect about the Queen having to approve laws, that hasn't been around for a long time.

I think New York might have something to say about London supposedly being the finance capital of the world too.

The thing is, with this years housemates you can pretty much claim anything without much argument or correction.”

Joel obviously believes all the shit his beloved leader spouts,a typical Tory boy full of his own importance.
Tonya69
15-07-2015
Originally Posted by Pitman:
“the way he spells it I think he'd more likely get the congo ”

....which he would think was that dance they did in the garden the other day.
whoyouarexo
15-07-2015
I think it's quite nice actually! Danny's said before that he's learnt loads off of Joel and it's better then watching loads of bitching and sniping!
Dave_62
15-07-2015
Joel talking doesn't mean he was educating danny.

4th richest country in the world? Own loads of islands?

Both as thick as each other, only danny might admit it.
Tonya69
15-07-2015
Originally Posted by Amelia_Sutherla:
“Joel obviously believes all the shit his beloved leader spouts,a typical Tory boy full of his own importance.”

I agree. It's like he's admired all the negative points associated with the Tories. If he acted like that in my old school he would have been very lonely. He even adopts politicians mannerisms and ways of answering questions. I've never reacted well to pompous types with arrogance and superiority complexes. Even his face is snobby, it's like someone has put a turd under his nose.
Pitman
15-07-2015
Originally Posted by Dave_62:
“Joel talking doesn't mean he was educating danny.

4th richest country in the world? Own loads of islands?

Both as thick as each other, only danny might admit it.”

it's like the blind leading the tub of lard
Tonya69
15-07-2015
Originally Posted by Dave_62:
“Joel talking doesn't mean he was educating danny.

4th richest country in the world? Own loads of islands?

Both as thick as each other, only danny might admit it.”

Actually Joel does get most things right...annoyingly. Britain does have a lot of islands too. I think he meant in terms of ex commonwealth and governance.

He clearly isn't emotionally intelligent though, or even aware of sexuality issues. Typical politician really.
Stuart25
15-07-2015
I'm pretty sure the Queen does have to approve laws - either she rarely does, or rarely objects, though. (Correct me if I'm wrong)
Robbie_Craig
15-07-2015
Joel educating Danny typical tory got it wrong
London is not the financial capitol of the world New York or Tokyo more like
We did not conquer the Falklands nor do we OWN lot's of islands
And as for the constitutional monarchy well nearly right unfortunatly we have a heredity monarchy but no written constitution .
BabelBrook
15-07-2015
Originally Posted by Tonya69:
“If I was D*nny I would be pretty embarrassed being educated by a 19 year old about stuff that should have sunk in at school. Although Joel was incorrect about the Queen having to approve laws, that hasn't been around for a long time.

I think New York might have something to say about London supposedly being the finance capital of the world too.

The thing is, with this years housemates you can pretty much claim anything without much argument or correction.”

Technically he was correct as royal assent is required even if it is pretty much a formality.
Dave_62
15-07-2015
Originally Posted by Stuart25:
“I'm pretty sure the Queen does have to approve laws - either she rarely does, or rarely objects, though. (Correct me if I'm wrong)”

Spot on. Considering Joel is an aspiring politician, that level of ignorance is embarrassing.

He shown himself to be proper thick, nice accent but ignorant as Danny.
Tonya69
15-07-2015
Originally Posted by Stuart25:
“I'm pretty sure the Queen does have to approve laws - either she rarely does, or rarely objects, though. (Correct me if I'm wrong)”

No, the queen is a figurehead by nomenclature. She has nothing to do with laws, she can raise an objection but she wields no power.
Dave_62
15-07-2015
Originally Posted by Tonya69:
“No, the queen is a figurehead by nomenclature. She has nothing to do with laws, she can raise an objection but she wields no power.”

All laws need royal ascent. It's just a fact, sorry.
Tonya69
15-07-2015
Originally Posted by Dave_62:
“All laws need royal ascent. It's just a fact, sorry.”

No, it doesn't need royal assent. Amendments don't even go past her and she has no effect on any laws. Look at the furore with Charles trying to pipe up, the objection is that he is the future king and can't get involved. The queen is more in line with an ambassador.
loco_loca
15-07-2015
Originally Posted by Tonya69:
“If I was D*nny I would be pretty embarrassed being educated by a 19 year old about stuff that should have sunk in at school. Although Joel was incorrect about the Queen having to approve laws, that hasn't been around for a long time.

I think New York might have something to say about London supposedly being the finance capital of the world too.

The thing is, with this years housemates you can pretty much claim anything without much argument or correction.”

He's not incorrect. New laws need the Royal assent. An argument can be made for London being the financial capital of the world: NY and London are pretty much neck and neck at the moment, but London has consistency/history.
Dave_62
15-07-2015
Originally Posted by Tonya69:
“No, it doesn't need royal assent. Amendments don't even go past her and she has no effect on any laws. Look at the furore with Charles trying to pipe up, the objection is that he is the future king and can't get involved. The queen is more in line with an ambassador.”

An amendment is not a law, its an amendment to an existing law, the law does not change. It remains assented..

All laws need royal assent.

Joel should know this. Intelligent aspiring politician? Its basic.
BabelBrook
15-07-2015
Originally Posted by Tonya69:
“No, it doesn't need royal assent. Amendments don't even go past her and she has no effect on any laws. Look at the furore with Charles trying to pipe up, the objection is that he is the future king and can't get involved. The queen is more in line with an ambassador.”

Charles and representations to ministers is irrelevant. All Acts of Parliament require royal assent which under the constitutional monachy could be withheld (although it is unlikely it would happen).
Mrs Simpson
15-07-2015
Originally Posted by BabelBrook:
“Charles and representations to ministers is irrelevant. All Acts of Parliament require royal assent which under the constitutional monachy could be withheld (although it is unlikely it would happen).”

But wasn't Joel talking about laws in the colonies (all those "islands" Britain "owns")? In which case, I don't think that they do have to have Royal Assent, although for some colonies I think that the UK remains the highest court of appeal.
Verence
15-07-2015
Originally Posted by BabelBrook:
“Charles and representations to ministers is irrelevant. All Acts of Parliament require royal assent which under the constitutional monachy could be withheld (although it is unlikely it would happen).”

The last time a monarch refused Royal Assent was in 1708 in the reign of Queen Anne
docman
15-07-2015
Originally Posted by loco_loca:
“He's not incorrect. New laws need the Royal assent. An argument can be made for London being the financial capital of the world: NY and London are pretty much neck and neck at the moment, but London has consistency/history.”

Quite. The Queen is legally in her right to refuse to do so and then a law would not be enforceable. It is just convention that she does not exercise this right.
benbeez1
15-07-2015
why did Joel waste his time ?
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