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Joel's reasoning for getting Cristian into his bed
Let me get this right, Joel wanted to get Cristian into his bed to prove to the viewers nothing would happen between them and they would control themselves?
am I understanding this right?! Like any of the viewers would actually think they are anything more than good friends ![]() I like both of them as individuals, they're my top 2 in there, but I was so baffled at that reasoning Joel needed to come up with something better than that
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I think he was just winding Christian up, they all were, Christian must have been very drunk or very easily manipulated
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Joel booty drops to ABBA songs. His ways are advanced and I wouldn't try to comprehend them.
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Joel calculated that such a move would maximise his airtime on final day. Smart but he's still a C**t
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Let me get this right, Joel wanted to get Cristian into his bed to prove to the viewers nothing would happen between them and they would control themselves?
am I understanding this right?! Like any of the viewers would actually think they are anything more than good friends ![]() I like both of them as individuals, they're my top 2 in there, but I was so baffled at that reasoning Joel needed to come up with something better than that ![]() Very odd the way Joel hassled him about it. And Joel knows what it's like to be hassled doesn't he , he was by Aaron.
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Joel was teasing Cristian.
![]() He knew exactly what he was saying and how it sounded, and poor Cristian didn't know how to react at all.
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I don't know why Cristian moved beds at all. He was in a bed , under a duvet - why did he move ? Why didn't he tell Joel to leave him alone and shut up ?
Very odd the way Joel hassled him about it. And Joel knows what it's like to be hassled doesn't he , he was by Aaron. ![]() |
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Joel was teasing Cristian.
![]() He knew exactly what he was saying and how it sounded, and poor Cristian didn't know how to react at all. ![]() He's one devious little shit. |
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Joel was teasing Cristian.
![]() He knew exactly what he was saying and how it sounded, and poor Cristian didn't know how to react at all. ![]()
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Because Joel kept going on at him so he moved just to shut him up and make him happy.
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He was so persistent though, if it was a wind up it went on for a bit too long
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Why did he feel he needed to make the little pompous **** happy ? I know only Cristian knows the answer , but Cristian has snapped before and to get into bed with another guy when he's straight ..... Joel must have been going on and on and on for a lot longer than was shown - had it of been Danny , he'd have told Joel very bluntly to f off !
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I also think it went longer than shown. Curious business as Aaron was removed from the house as Joel felt awkward about the 'teasing', granted that Aaron took it to next level, but still very similar. Hmmmmm......
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Because Joel kept going on at him so he moved just to shut him up and make him happy.
I'm not keen on Joel at all he's like a dog with a bone, just won't let go. Very manipulative & obviously used to getting his own way off mummy. |
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Plus he looked as though he just wanted to go to sleep.
I'm not keen on Joel at all he's like a dog with a bone, just won't let go. Very manipulative & obviously used to getting his own way off mummy. I wonder if his mum wanted a girl , not meaning to sound bad , but he knows ABBA songs , and all the lyrics, which is his mums generation so they probably dance around the house and the women's clothes wearing, the sl*t drop even his mum was proud of. |
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I think he was just winding Christian up, they all were, Christian must have been very drunk or very easily manipulated
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Joel is a creep.
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You could see the fear in both their faces. Especially Joel's, on that the public have become aware of them. Joel all of the sudden trying to "man up" now and "straighten himself" up. Followed by the classic "i don't mind anyone whose gay" to give the audience the impression he is straight but isn't homophobic.
Like the aaron situation scenes, I would love to see the full uncut version of those scenes. Joel being covered by editing yet again, when he was likely goading cristian like he was with Aaron. |
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Have to admit, it was a decidedly odd scene all around. Joel determined to get Cristian into his bed and Cristian actually doing it!
Mind you, the other day Cristian was lying in bed under the quilt, he gestured to Joel, lifted up one side of the quilt and patted the bed in a come-hither way, with Joel hopping in with him. It's a long way from the guy on first night who seemed almost panicky at the thought of sharing a bed with a bloke! |
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Is he can only child by any chance?
I wonder if his mum wanted a girl , not meaning to sound bad , but he knows ABBA songs , and all the lyrics, which is his mums generation so they probably dance around the house and the women's clothes wearing, the sl*t drop even his mum was proud of. Otherwise, last night's behaviour from Joel has possibly lost him the extra support he gained a couple of nights ago after dancing around to The Winner Takes It All. No one likes a smartarse who doesn't know when to stop pushing his luck
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Nick made the most insightful comment, about how Cristian was caught in two minds. If he did it, it could give people the wrong impression. If he didn't, people might mock him and think he has a problem with being gay, or with gay people. I think he just went with the option that would get him the least grief in there during their last couple of days.
I think he only did it to shut Joel and the others up. If he hadn't moved, they'd probably have kept teasing him and pushing him to do it. He was clearly tired and just wanted to sleep. I'm not sure if he was already asleep when Joel and the others started talking to him? I just don't get why teasing people in that way is considered funny by some? I didn't like it when some of them did it to Joel with Aaron earlier in the series, and I didn't like that with Cristian either. |
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When something is funny, it remains funny when done the once. When it's done more than once, it becomes pathetic and silly. Which is what Joel is doing with the slut drop. It also doesn't look good when a man who declared he is "proud hetrosexual" does it, when the majority of the people who do the slut drop are women and gay men. Just saying. It's clear his mother and sister have influenced who he is as a person on a feminine level. I am sure his father is really the only man in that household. He's downstairs watching top gear, while those three are upstairs quoting lines from The Golden Girls dvd boxsets.
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Why did he feel he needed to make the little pompous **** happy ? I know only Cristian knows the answer , but Cristian has snapped before and to get into bed with another guy when he's straight ..... Joel must have been going on and on and on for a lot longer than was shown - had it of been Danny , he'd have told Joel very bluntly to f off !
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I thought it was quite a cute little scene - I love them both trying to fight it!
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Nick made the most insightful comment, about how Cristian was caught in two minds. If he did it, it could give people the wrong impression. If he didn't, people might mock him and think he has a problem with being gay, or with gay people. I think he just went with the option that would get him the least grief in there during their last couple of days.
I think he only did it to shut Joel and the others up. If he hadn't moved, they'd probably have kept teasing him and pushing him to do it. He was clearly tired and just wanted to sleep. I'm not sure if he was already asleep when Joel and the others started talking to him? I just don't get why teasing people in that way is considered funny by some? I didn't like it when some of them did it to Joel with Aaron earlier in the series, and I didn't like that with Cristian either. |
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am I understanding this right?! Like any of the viewers would actually think they are anything more than good friends 

