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ED - Is Robert's time almost up?
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Andybear
16-07-2015
Originally Posted by spunger:
“I don't know why FM's think his time might be up. The show has become a completely ridiculous far fetched farce so this producer will continue to do whatever she wants with this completely unbelievable riduculously far fetched panto villian. Before he goes I fully expect him to turn Cain gay, marry Edna and end up having a sex change. All mundane stuff in KO's twisted vision of ED.”

You've done it again
SecretLifeoBees
16-07-2015
His time will only be up when producers decide it is. Look at Cain and Charity for a start, both have committed despicable acts over the years to so many, yet still always live to see another day. The only thing that I am not happy about is that when The truth about Katie's demise becomes common knowledge the renewed bonds between Robert and Victoria & Andy will inevitably be destroyed. The reunited Sugdens is one of the things I have enjoyed about Robert's return, especially between Robert and Andy.
Nico_D
16-07-2015
[quote=SecretLifeoBees;78980254]His time will only be up when producers decide it is. Look at Cain and Charity for a start, both have committed despicable acts over the years to so many, yet still always live to see another day. The only thing that I am not happy about is that when The truth about Katie's demise becomes common knowledge the renewed bonds between Robert and Victoria & Andy will inevitably be destroyed. The reunited Sugdens is one of the things I have enjoyed about Robert's return, especially between Robert and Andy. [/

Spoiler
Surely if Andy sleeps with chrissie a week after the reveal the Bond will already break
ME1234567
16-07-2015
[quote=Nico_D;78980340]
Originally Posted by SecretLifeoBees:
“His time will only be up when producers decide it is. Look at Cain and Charity for a start, both have committed despicable acts over the years to so many, yet still always live to see another day. The only thing that I am not happy about is that when The truth about Katie's demise becomes common knowledge the renewed bonds between Robert and Victoria & Andy will inevitably be destroyed. The reunited Sugdens is one of the things I have enjoyed about Robert's return, especially between Robert and Andy. [/

Spoiler
Surely if Andy sleeps with chrissie a week after the reveal the Bond will already break
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I don't think they will sleep together.
margarite6666
16-07-2015
Originally Posted by Crooked Heart:
“★★...★★: Yep, and I think he definitely will be. I've been negative about his chances of survival in the past but I feel the complete opposite now I think the 'summer stunt' will be his big moment to shine! They often portray him as being physically weak and a coward and I think he will prove people wrong(especially Cain, Chas and Aaron).”

If they wanted too make him irredeemable they are a million ways to do it. Pushing Katie knowing the floor was unsafe. To my mind what he did was not as bad as Aaron bottling James with intent. They have deliberately given him bad thoughts but made sure he has been shown not following through. He was about to save Paddy. They could have just shown Andy arriving in the nick of time.
hallo girl
16-07-2015
Originally Posted by Bitoftreakle:
“It seems Robert won't be able to stay in the village much longer as all his lies and crimes appear close to being exposed, and next week he considers killing Aaron and actually shoots Paddy! Chrissie will also want revenge too. Such a shame as I have really enjoyed this complicated version of Robert - regardless of the inherent bi-phobia in the writing. I hope they can work it realistically for him to stay - will be hard though. Thoughts? ”

Or will all the people who know his secrets be bumped off and he survives? I wondered about Chrissies dad being one of the victims of the ' stunt' as Robert has just been promoted etc etc, and he dies before Chrissie has a chance to tell him about Roberts behaviour, he then owns half the company and she needs to put up with him.
cyrilandshirley
16-07-2015
Oh good Lord, he'll be fine!

(famous last words: Robert falls into sinkhole never to be seen again, leaving only his indestructible watch)

No, he'll be fine.
Wyezed
16-07-2015
Originally Posted by hallo girl:
“Or will all the people who know his secrets be bumped off and he survives? I wondered about Chrissies dad being one of the victims of the ' stunt' as Robert has just been promoted etc etc, and he dies before Chrissie has a chance to tell him about Roberts behaviour, he then owns half the company and she needs to put up with him.”

John Bowe is too good an actor to lose. The one who plays Robert isn't.
Spoiler
Lawrence will find out about Robert soon
Crooked Heart
16-07-2015
Originally Posted by Tom:
“Characters like Robert can always be redeemed in soaps - usually by pushing them to rock bottom. The easiest way to do this would probably be to have him suffer some kind of horrific injury in the summer disaster and really push him to the absolute brink.”

I think Robert will be feeling very sorry for himself up to the 'summer stunt'. He'll think losing his money, status, fancy home and trophy wife is as bad as it gets.

But once the 'summer stunt' begins, I think that's when he'll have an epiphany. All his family including his ex-lover will probably end up
Spoiler
buried in the village hall!
That's when I think he'll truly hit rock bottom; and that'll be the moment when he realises what/who's important to him. He told Aaron when he was drunk that he feared ending up alone, and I think he'll be truly horrified when he sees the devastation knowing they're in there. I think it'll spur him into doing something quite heroic!
craig_25
16-07-2015
Originally Posted by Wyezed:
“John Bowe is too good an actor to lose. The one who plays Robert isn't.
Spoiler
Lawrence will find out about Robert soon
”

Wouldn't be too much a stretch of the imagination for Lawrence to be a casualty in the upcoming disaster. If he fails to get Robert off the directorship of HFE and can't get him out of his will in time, he could die at the summer fete making Robert a very rich man, and Chrissie a VERY bitter woman!

Whilst I love Lawrence, his death could provide a twist we didn't see coming, and possibly see Robert reaping all his rewards much earlier than expected and without the hassle of being tied to Chrissie to get it.
Crooked Heart
16-07-2015
Originally Posted by craig_25:
“Wouldn't be too much a stretch of the imagination for Lawrence to be a casualty in the upcoming disaster. If he fails to get Robert off the directorship of HFE and can't get him out of his will in time, he could die at the summer fete making Robert a very rich man, and Chrissie a VERY bitter woman!

Whilst I love Lawrence, his death could provide a twist we didn't see coming, and possibly see Robert reaping all his rewards much earlier than expected and without the hassle of being tied to Chrissie to get it.”

John Bowe told someone on twitter that he wasn't going anywhere. I guess he could've been lying but didn't Kate Oates say his past was going to be revisited later this year?

I would be very disappointed if he did leave and I don't think he will. I don't want Rob to be handed a load of money tbh! If he still wants it, I want him to fight for it; and I want him to have more scenes with Lawrence
craig_25
16-07-2015
Originally Posted by Crooked Heart:
“John Bowe told someone on twitter that he wasn't going anywhere. I guess he could've been lying but didn't Kate Oates say his past was going to be revisited later this year?

I would be very disappointed if he did leave and I don't think he will. I don't want Rob to be handed a load of money tbh! If he still wants it, I want him to fight for it; and I want him to have more scenes with Lawrence”

Oh I definitely don't want Lawrence to go but I do wonder if they're leading upto up to a storyline in which there is a fight for Lawrence's fortune, whether he's alive or dead at the time. They seem to have made a big deal out Lawrence finally accepting Robert and finally giving him the keys to the kingdom.
Crooked Heart
16-07-2015
Originally Posted by margarite6666:
“If they wanted too make him irredeemable they are a million ways to do it. Pushing Katie knowing the floor was unsafe. ★★To my mind what he did was not as bad as Aaron bottling James with intent.★★ They have deliberately given him bad thoughts but made sure he has been shown not following through. He was about to save Paddy. They could have just shown Andy arriving in the nick of time.”

★★...★★: How about Ross smashing some poor guy's head with a baseball bat! Completely unnecessary and he showed no remorse whatsoever but nobody calls him evil! Or thinks he should be killed off
samcains90
16-07-2015
Originally Posted by Crooked Heart:
“John Bowe told someone on twitter that he wasn't going anywhere. I guess he could've been lying but didn't Kate Oates say his past was going to be revisited later this year?

I would be very disappointed if he did leave and I don't think he will. I don't want Rob to be handed a load of money tbh! If he still wants it, I want him to fight for it; and I want him to have more scenes with Lawrence”

They always lie. Kate Oates said that we would see more of Robbie and Finn's friendship just a couple of months before Robbie was killed off.
ThugSugden
16-07-2015
I could see Robert having to go on the run or even go to jail, but if he exits, I think it will be temporary. With big disasters like the upcoming one, they usually want tearjerker deaths--not ones that leave the audience cheering. And let's be honest--the general audience would cheer if Robert died (and I would cry).

In general, it seems they really enjoy using him to stir up trouble, so I'm not sure they'd axe one of their major sources of drama. I'm sure they've spent hours and hours discussing where to take him after the reveal. It's not unknown territory to the writers, just to the viewers. That shift in character dynamic is exciting, so they'd want to utilize that, in my opinion. Seems they're more likely to bin characters who've run out of use.

And as far as the gun and shooting? Hardly an exit-worthy offense in Emmerdale. Chas, Andy, Adam, Aaron, Cain--they've all done similar. I'm not stressing on that.
dronkula
16-07-2015
Actually, I kinda thought Robert is fine now that Laurence has put him into his will.

I think that's leading up to Laurence not surviving the big summer explosion and so Robert inherits his chunk of Home Farm.
Crooked Heart
16-07-2015
Originally Posted by ThugSugden:
“I could see Robert having to go on the run or even go to jail, but if he exits, I think it will be temporary. With big disasters like the upcoming one, they usually want tearjerker deaths--not ones that leave the audience cheering. And let's be honest--●●the general audience would cheer if Robert died●● (and I would cry).

In general, it seems they really enjoy using him to stir up trouble, so I'm not sure they'd axe one of their major sources of drama. I'm sure they've spent hours and hours discussing where to take him after the reveal. It's not unknown territory to the writers, just to the viewers. That shift in character dynamic is exciting, so they'd want to utilize that, in my opinion. Seems they're more likely to bin characters who've run out of use.

★★ And as far as the gun and shooting? Hardly an exit-worthy offense in Emmerdale. Chas, Andy, Adam, Aaron, Cain--they've all done similar. I'm not stressing on that. ”

●●...●●: Damn them all!



★★ I wonder where he gets
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the gun from? I suppose it's a handgun; Do the Whites keep one in their safe? They have a mobile with a hitman's phone number on it so it wouldn't be surprising
doctorwhofancal
16-07-2015
Think he'll die in a whodunnit. Killed in October, revealed on Christmas Day. There's so many suspects!
Soapfan678
16-07-2015
Emmerdale need strong actors like Ryan on the show and Robert is a brilliant character. I just do not know how Robert can stay, when he killed Katie. It is tough, because I have said before he needs comeuppance. However, I also want Robert to stay, considering Ryan Hawley is a strong actor and has made the character his own.
Crooked Heart
16-07-2015
Originally Posted by doctorwhofancal:
“Think he'll die in a whodunnit. Killed in October, revealed on Christmas Day. There's so many suspects!”

This would be so boring and a complete waste of a great character. Who would care in the end who killed him? It would only end up being some dull character that nobody cares about. And they would probably make it so bleeding obvious who it was that there would be no surprise anyway. And 24hrs later, it would all be forgotten about.
Cheekymonkey09
16-07-2015
Originally Posted by craig_25:
“If Kate Oates and her team have brought back a legacy character, purely to cause a year of holy hell then see him killed off, I will be FUMING and I mean literally FUMING!!!!!

The character is more than capable of being redeemed, he's got nothing on Tracy Barlow and she's already halfway there (IMO).

He's a great character played by a very capable actor, it will be a travesty if he leaves.

If it is beyond their control and the actor has decided to leave, then he should be written out. Not killed off. The Sugdens ARE Emmerdale, they were its founding family. Turning one into a total psycho and then killing him all for 12 months of sensationalism would be utterly ridiculous.”

Well said, I'm actually annoyed by how they've written him since Katie's death.
Adrian_Ward1
16-07-2015
Robert is Brilliant
ME1234567
16-07-2015
Originally Posted by Soapfan678:
“Emmerdale need strong actors like Ryan on the show and Robert is a brilliant character. I just do not know how Robert can stay, when he killed Katie. It is tough, because I have said before he needs comeuppance. However, I also want Robert to stay, considering Ryan Hawley is a strong actor and has made the character his own.”

Unless Katie's death is kept buried until the actor wants to leave?
craig_25
16-07-2015
Originally Posted by ME1234567:
“Unless Katie's death is kept buried until the actor wants to leave?”

I'm hoping that's the case, a bit like Carl King
hallo girl
16-07-2015
Originally Posted by Wyezed:
“John Bowe is too good an actor to lose. The one who plays Robert isn't.
Spoiler
Lawrence will find out about Robert soon
”

I agree he is too good an actor, I love anything he is in , but he has not been in ED all that much, I thought he was going to be a main character but he hasn't really.
Just a few support scenes no real storyline for him other than at the very beginning when he first came in, I thought there would be more with Edna
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