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Fudd
17-07-2015
Originally Posted by Dr Z:
“I think this is a common misconception that BB 'wants' someone as a winner - Yes, BB will manipulate throughout the the whole process, but its nothing to do with making anyone the winner, its all about putting the housemates that will encourage the most voting for (and against).

Screwed around with as it is, I genuinely don't think BB gives a toss about who wins.”

I would argue otherwise. A Big Brother winner can contribute a little or a lot to a brand, whether that's toeing the line on BOTS, talking to the press, re-entering the House, just generally promoting the show in a positive manner. I can't see Joel doing that - he's too set in terms of black v white. Jack can be too self-obsessed, Danny let himself down as much outside the House as in it (they allowed him to be anyway, considering the taxi story wasn't shown), Nick's too quiet away from Harry and Jade and Cristian did little sans Joel. Which leaves...

Chloe is a good winner for them. They've built up the 'nice' perception (I'm sure she is but when Danny can be ripped apart for something that happened on the outside...) after last year's decisive one and she'll happily promote the show and follow and requests. Perfect.
Jennyloo
17-07-2015
Originally Posted by Dr Z:
“I think this is a common misconception that BB 'wants' someone as a winner - Yes, BB will manipulate throughout the the whole process, but its nothing to do with making anyone the winner, its all about putting the housemates that will encourage the most voting for (and against).

Screwed around with as it is, I genuinely don't think BB gives a toss about who wins.”

I used to think it was a load of rubbish that BB wanted a certain winner but the way that the show has been spun as the girl next door, which clearly she is not, was to contrast with Helen. There has been far too much bias for Chloe and the way it was manipulated when she would have gone in a double last week is a clear indication, no doubt about it. Joel was so right to protest. He obviously smelled a rat. So did Nick to nominate her.
The producers must have been worried that she had blown her image by her vile behaviour. This show is so staged managed that it's now no different to TOWIE, the audience it's trying to attract.
BB is now dead and a different beast is masquerading under its banner. They should re title the show.
Jennyloo
17-07-2015
Originally Posted by Fudd:
“I would argue otherwise. A Big Brother winner can contribute a little or a lot to a brand, whether that's toeing the line on BOTS, talking to the press, re-entering the House, just generally promoting the show in a positive manner. I can't see Joel doing that - he's too set in terms of black v white. Jack can be too self-obsessed, Danny let himself down as much outside the House as in it (they allowed him to be anyway, considering the taxi story wasn't shown), Nick's too quiet away from Harry and Jade and Cristian did little sans Joel. Which leaves...

Chloe is a good winner for them. They've built up the 'nice' perception (I'm sure she is but when Danny can be ripped apart for something that happened on the outside...) after last year's decisive one and she'll happily promote the show and follow and requests. Perfect.”

They demonised Jack too to make her look better. Poor lad he was treated so badly but of course this will appeal,to the Jeremy Kyle audience which is what this show has been dumbed down to.
Jennyloo
17-07-2015
Originally Posted by ShadowTillNow:
“It's disheartening to think that there were at least 4 other people that could have made a worse winner than Chloe! Joel, Cristian, Danny, Jack... awful result, but Chloe was probably the best of a bad lot.

Helen was awful, no doubt about it, but I didn't mind her winning because she was at least the biggest talking point of the series. Did people even know Chloe's name until this week?”

Don't agree with your summary. Any of the four would have been ten times better than her. She was the worst of the bunch because she was so false. Conned you all. Nick would have been better too, at least he had principles.
Fudd
17-07-2015
Originally Posted by Jennyloo:
“They demonised Jack too to make her look better. Poor lad he was treated so badly but of course this will appeal,to the Jeremy Kyle audience which is what this show has been dumbed down to.”

Exactly. The hounding Jack got for taking the money from BOTS was ridiculous. Either the show was scripted or they're all thick as the hypocrisy side never hit home.
Amelia_Sutherla
17-07-2015
Originally Posted by GazzaBB:
“Definitely. The people who vote on this show must be really, really special.”

They are the Jeremy Vile generation,anyone whoes a chav will win,but saying that I didn't like any of the finalists haven't watched since Sam went in the fiddle twist ,I. Watched Master Chef in stead much better viewing.Im done with BB now might just watch CBB depending on who they put in.
ShadowTillNow
17-07-2015
Originally Posted by Jennyloo:
“Don't agree with your summary. Any of the four would have been ten times better than her. She was the worst of the bunch because she was so false. Conned you all. Nick would have been better too, at least he had principles.”

I think YOU are the one who has been conned if you think Jack, Danny, & especially Joel & Cristian are any less false than Chloe.
connor the judg
18-07-2015
I was pretty annoyed when I wrote this thread as Chloe (who was the one I liked the least in the final) had just won.

She isn't that bad. I don't think the finalists were as bad as people on here make out.
2la
18-07-2015
I think Helen redeemed herself towards the end. She at least was not a dullard like chloe and Sam.
Halki
18-07-2015
Originally Posted by QuiteInterested:
“*ahem* Not this older mum, thank you!”

Nor this one. Ugh.
Halki
18-07-2015
Originally Posted by Lou17:
“I think its older mums who simply now take bb at face value and are easily spoon fed who ever bb wants as a winner etc

And a much younger 'tween audience that wants a more towie type winner/series.”

Us older mums have almost certainly watched every single series, and are probably the least likely group to be "spoon fed " - having seen how it has evolved over the years, , in fact double
The_Sleeper
18-07-2015
Originally Posted by connor the judg:
“I was pretty annoyed when I wrote this thread a .”

cos Joel, never done a * Slut Drop * that made emma wet her G - string , our rylans CKs ?
connor the judg
18-07-2015
Originally Posted by The_Sleeper:
“cos Joel, never done a * Slut Drop * that made emma wet her G - string , our rylans CKs ? ”

I'm guessing you didn't like Joel's slut drop? or Emma's G - string. Not sure if you like Rylan's CKs.
connor the judg
18-07-2015
Originally Posted by 2la:
“I think Helen redeemed herself towards the end. She at least was not a dullard like chloe and Sam.”

. You believed that rubbish.
2la
18-07-2015
Originally Posted by connor the judg:
“. You believed that rubbish. ”

I thought her hug with Ashleigh was quite endearing, how she picked her up and spun her round.
bluegroper
18-07-2015
Out of the final 6 I was happy with the top two Chloe and Joel. I am happy for Chloe winning and would have been equally as happy if Joel won and Chloe came 2nd.

As far as BB on C5 is concerned there is BB overkill with 3 series a year they should cut it back to one CBB in January and a 10 week BB in summer. Less is more.
adwalton
18-07-2015
Originally Posted by connor the judg:
“That would of been great.”

It would have been great.

HAVE HAVE HAVE HAVE. For goodness sake why do people say would of?
Music Lover One
18-07-2015
Did anyone hear Chloe when in the final Jack was called, she said "Go on Fathead"!!!!! as he was leaving. Very nice!!!!!! I personally didn't think that Chloe was a very nice person, especially to Jack.
Ferilatgatr
18-07-2015
Chloe, Helen and who was the third one lol? Aaron?
Barracute
18-07-2015
Originally Posted by bluegroper:
“Out of the final 6 I was happy with the top two Chloe and Joel. I am happy for Chloe winning and would have been equally as happy if Joel won and Chloe came 2nd.

As far as BB on C5 is concerned there is BB overkill with 3 series a year they should cut it back to one CBB in January and a 10 week BB in summer. Less is more.”

Agree with this i was happy with the final two in any order. Also two CBB's a year is one to many!
Fudd
18-07-2015
Originally Posted by Ferilatgatr:
“Chloe, Helen and who was the third one lol? Aaron?”

Sam who won BB13.
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