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Old 20-07-2015, 20:43
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What treatment did she get that you regard as "absolutely disgusting"?
It got to the point where she was having a panic attack all alone, until Vanessa was told to check on her.

The way Vanessa and Clay were intimidating her every time she was near her. The way Vanessa treated her in the HOH room was absolutely awful too. Same with clay. Getting aggressive with her. It was disgusting. You guys might like all that and think she deserves it, but personally, I don't believe anyone deserves to be treated badly like that. Bad game or not.
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Old 20-07-2015, 20:44
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First off, I don't like her. I think she has played a dirty game and went extremely low with her lies in the house. Like with the Becky racist comment and then trying to pin it on Jason / Da'Vonne. Shown zero loyalty to anyone in the first four weeks, played pathetically hard.

She is entertaining for feeds but she knew what she was signing up for. The house has every right to treat her how they want. She has had so many chances and the fact they're still trying to involve her shows how good they are. They don't want her to talk game but Audrey just does not get it.

Believe me, when Audrey leaves the house she is in for a bad response. The fans don't like her. Da'Vonne was saying on twitter how she gets racist tweets etc so Audrey will get other nasty comments from these vile fans. Her being worried about her family is understandable, but like Da'Vonne and herself she gets what she signed up for.

The production comment was if Audrey left the game for the reason she was "bullied" or whatever BS she tried to spin to walk out in a cowards way out. They have enough footage to show why she was in the position she is in.
We're going to have to agree to disagree on this. I don't like seeing people treated like shit on a personal level, despite their own actions on a game level. You clearly take great delight in it! But that's not me!

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Vanessa, as much as I think she is a disgusting person, she's playing a good game. Nobody seems to know what she's doing other than Audrey.
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Old 20-07-2015, 20:49
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We're going to have to agree to disagree on this. I don't like seeing people treated like shit on a personal level, despite their own actions on a game level. You clearly take great delight in it! But that's not me!

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Vanessa, as much as I think she is a disgusting person, she's playing a good game. Nobody seems to know what she's doing other than Audrey.
Oh please. Stop the dramatics.

Audrey has made people in the house feel terrible.

Calling Becky racist.
Calling John Ted Bundy
Calling Da'Vonne Mamma Demon
Telling Jace he has something wrong with his head

Really a symbol of virtue and wisdom.
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Old 20-07-2015, 20:50
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Oh please. Stop the dramatics.

Audrey has made people in the house feel terrible.

Calling Becky racist.
Calling John Ted Bundy
Calling Da'Vonne Mamma Demon
Telling Jace he has something wrong with his head

Really a symbol of virtue and wisdom.
She's never once gathered the troops to isolate someone. Like I said, agreeing to disagree on this. Not all of us like the idea of someone being treated like shit
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Old 20-07-2015, 20:52
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She's never once gathered the troops to isolate someone. Like I said, agreeing to disagree on this. Not all of us like the idea of someone being treated like shit
Nobody isolates her, she isolates herself.
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Old 20-07-2015, 20:53
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Nobody isolates her, she isolates herself.
Yep, okay
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Old 20-07-2015, 20:54
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I really think we have a possibility that Audrey could self evict.

Production must be having a meeting with her.
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Old 20-07-2015, 20:56
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TBH the people I've heard mention isolating her in some form throughout the feeds are Clay / Austin / Da'Vonne.

Everyone else will talk to her but no game.
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Old 20-07-2015, 21:02
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It got to the point where she was having a panic attack all alone, until Vanessa was told to check on her.

The way Vanessa and Clay were intimidating her every time she was near her. The way Vanessa treated her in the HOH room was absolutely awful too. Same with clay. Getting aggressive with her. It was disgusting. You guys might like all that and think she deserves it, but personally, I don't believe anyone deserves to be treated badly like that. Bad game or not.
It really hasn't got anything to do with what she does or doesn't deserve for me. She was involved in 2 confrontations and lost them both. Rightly or wrongly. Which is very odd indeed, because she has called for house meetings several times, so her own "miscreant of the moment" could be ganged up on and "confronted". Remember Jeff being dragged up to a packed HoH room by her in the middle of the night under the threat of nomination?

Clay has wanted her gone for ages now, so he set her up and broke her down, Vanessa's temper (which Clay has reason to remember from his 90% comment) was the coup de gras. It is entirely legitimate gameplay and there are countless examples from past seasons to prove it. Need I say the name Evel Dick?

She clearly can't handle personal confrontation very well as we learned from her fight with Da'Vonne, but she was cornered in that one. Yesterday all she had to do was disengage and walk away from Clay in the backyard, but for whatever reason she didn't and that is that.
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Old 20-07-2015, 21:24
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We're going to have to agree to disagree on this. I don't like seeing people treated like shit on a personal level, despite their own actions on a game level. You clearly take great delight in it! But that's not me!

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Vanessa, as much as I think she is a disgusting person, she's playing a good game. Nobody seems to know what she's doing other than Audrey.
Jason, Jackie, Meg, John and James have all mentioned Vanessa as a target for them in the last couple of days.

I don't think Audrey is being bullied either, but it is a shame if she goes
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Old 20-07-2015, 21:45
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Nobody isolates her, she isolates herself.
TBH the people I've heard mention isolating her in some form throughout the feeds are Clay / Austin / Da'Vonne.

Everyone else will talk to her but no game.
Glad we got that cleared up then

Jason, Jackie, Meg, John and James have all mentioned Vanessa as a target for them in the last couple of days.

I don't think Audrey is being bullied either, but it is a shame if she goes
I wouldn't go as far to say bullying, no! Definitely not! Just last night was disgusting to watch and Vanessa going as far as to say the only reason Audrey is against her is cause she is gay. That was ridiculous.
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Old 20-07-2015, 21:47
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It really hasn't got anything to do with what she does or doesn't deserve for me. She was involved in 2 confrontations and lost them both. Rightly or wrongly. Which is very odd indeed, because she has called for house meetings several times, so her own "miscreant of the moment" could be ganged up on and "confronted". Remember Jeff being dragged up to a packed HoH room by her in the middle of the night under the threat of nomination?

Clay has wanted her gone for ages now, so he set her up and broke her down, Vanessa's temper (which Clay has reason to remember from his 90% comment) was the coup de gras. It is entirely legitimate gameplay and there are countless examples from past seasons to prove it. Need I say the name Evel Dick?

She clearly can't handle personal confrontation very well as we learned from her fight with Da'Vonne, but she was cornered in that one. Yesterday all she had to do was disengage and walk away from Clay in the backyard, but for whatever reason she didn't and that is that.
The backyard conversation was the only time Clay was being nice to her. So why would she get up and walk away then? It was after that when he got aggressive, explained how he wanted to rip her a new one, explained how much he hates her and so on. Was disgusting.
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Old 20-07-2015, 22:08
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Audrey's been in the DR for just over 3 hours.
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Old 20-07-2015, 22:13
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The backyard conversation was the only time Clay was being nice to her. So why would she get up and walk away then?
He really wasn't being "nice" to her then either. He was badgering and hectoring and refusing to accept anything she said because she didn't concede his agenda. I saw that conversation as if Clay was pinning her to the ground and slapping her, until she agreed with him. A better gamer would have recognised this and walked away.

As I said, he set her up.

It was after that when he got aggressive, explained how he wanted to rip her a new one, explained how much he hates her and so on. Was disgusting.
As I said, he broke her down.

Look back and watch the BB11 episodes,when Ronnie was caught in his lies. He had it far worse than Audrey has, so far.
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Old 20-07-2015, 22:21
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The camera zoomed in on the emergency exit button LOL
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Old 20-07-2015, 22:30
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The camera zoomed in on the emergency exit button LOL
I wish Grodner would stop trolling us and get on with it. Whether Audrey walks or not. Good grief, this is the first time ever I won't complain to see the feeds blocked, because it should mean the Veto meeting is on.
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Old 20-07-2015, 22:32
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Vanessa: "Are you working out for when Liz comes back?"

Austin: "I even trimmed my beard!"

Pass the sick bag....
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Old 20-07-2015, 22:37
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Austin suggests Audrey is "leaving".
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Old 20-07-2015, 22:40
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Austin and Vanessa agree that Jackie is their main threat.
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Old 20-07-2015, 22:42
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Will Audrey leave......

I think she has.
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Old 20-07-2015, 22:47
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So, if Audrey walks I expect the game will proceed on it's present course.

John and Jason are still nominated, with the Veto meeting to come. I would imagine Vanessa and Shelli will be given some time to decide what to do. I suspect Vanessa might want Shelli to backdoor Becky, since Jackie is safe. I wonder if Shelli might see the virtue of evicting Austin instead, but I doubt it.
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Old 20-07-2015, 22:51
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So, if Audrey walks I expect the game will proceed on it's present course.

John and Jason are still nominated, with the Veto meeting to come. I would imagine Vanessa and Shelli will be given some time to decide what to do. I suspect Vanessa might want Shelli to backdoor Becky, since Jackie is safe. I wonder if Shelli might see the virtue of evicting Austin instead, but I doubt it.
Nobody should be evicted if Audrey walks. She was the replacement nomination and would have been the guaranteed evictee.

Frank still remained HoH because PoV was never played and the nominations where not chosen I think.

Michelle lost HoH after Chima because Chima was a target and would have gone home.
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Old 20-07-2015, 22:53
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I wonder if she leaves does that count for one of the evictions for the twins.
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Old 20-07-2015, 22:57
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Nothing to do with anything but someone could have told me Jeff was recently at a lousy Irish pub minutes from my home with some blonde Amazing Race woman.

Edit - "Irish" pub. I can't make the scare quotes large enough, it's mainly known for bros and chicken wings.
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Old 20-07-2015, 23:00
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I think she's gone
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