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Why doesn't someone just start up a new BB type show?
threecheeses
17-07-2015
It's not like BB own the rights to all 'bunch of strangers living in a house type shows'.

Did anyone watch the Glass House (I think that's what it was called).
Similar idea to BB, did they ever have to pay for any rights to have that format?

I'm not talking IACGMOOH or Love Island or The Villa or any other type of different set-ups but strangers in a house, no reason why someone else can't do it is there?

Some rich booger can hire out an old mansion, fit it up with cameras, get in some members of the public without agents in there, have an online voting system to save your favourite every week, can be as far away or as close to the BB format as they want.

Stick some highlights on a channel with lots of online clips and some staggered streaming.

If I had a few mill. I would certainly give it a go
Kingsy
17-07-2015
Glass House got sued off the air for being too similar to Big Brother, so...

Personally I'd quite like to see another series of Shattered. That was interesting.
threecheeses
17-07-2015
Originally Posted by Kingsy:
“Glass House got sued off the air for being too similar to Big Brother, so...

Personally I'd quite like to see another series of Shattered. That was interesting.”

Did it really? Will go have a read up on that and 'Shattered' sounds familiar
threecheeses
17-07-2015
Just found this after reading about The Glass House being sued...

There have been rumours suggesting that Network Ten in Australia are considering producing a local edition of the show set to air in mid to late 2015. The show will be called Life In A Glasshouse.
Salv*
17-07-2015
Like 1984?

The book BB is based on?.It'd be too close to BB and it'd be like watching BB1 again.i

Shattered was the no sleep show right? That was interesting. Anyone remember Unanimous? Think it only lasted a few eps.
henryscat
17-07-2015
I think there should be a permanent version. No end. No prize money.

Each person is credited a small amount (£300?) for each day they stay in, which they get when they leave, or are evicted. HMs can evict someone once every 2 weeks, but don’t have to. Viewers can evict someone once every two weeks, but also don’t have to (they can vote none of the above).

Anyone that leaves is replaced. 12 hms at all times. No visitors. No outside information other than what the new entrants bring.

Sell it globally via the internet, with an internet subscription for the live feed. Free voting. 1 vote per subscription.

All nationalities invited to apply.
threecheeses
17-07-2015
Originally Posted by Salv*:
“Like 1984?

The book BB is based on?.It'd be too close to BB and it'd be like watching BB1 again.i

Shattered was the no sleep show right? That was interesting. Anyone remember Unanimous? Think it only lasted a few eps.”

Yeah to that bit

When you look at all the movies, a bunch of strangers wake up in a strange place, blah blah so many of them.
I don't see how BB can have the monopoly on the bunch of strangers in a house.

I appreciate Glass House was too similar but it only takes a bit of tweaking, surely a lot of reality shows could be accused of being like BB, bunch of strangers in the jungle, on an island, in a villa etc or going back to 2000 when we had Castaway.

BB goes right back to '97 and was based on an idea from '1991 Biosphere 2 experiment in the Arizona desert' (wiki), the BIg Brother words as' the all seeing leader' were taken from Orwell but the producers say they based it on the above experiment.
threecheeses
17-07-2015
Originally Posted by henryscat:
“I think there should be a permanent version. No end. No prize money.

Each person is credited a small amount (£300?) for each day they stay in, which they get when they leave, or are evicted. HMs can evict someone once every 2 weeks, but don’t have to. Viewers can evict someone once every two weeks, but also don’t have to (they can vote none of the above).

Anyone that leaves is replaced. 12 hms at all times. No visitors. No outside information other than what the new entrants bring.

Sell it globally via the internet, with an internet subscription for the live feed. Free voting. 1 vote per subscription.

All nationalities invited to apply.”

The no end seems a scary thought but I like the idea of a longer ongoing one with people coming and going.
There must be a way to get an idea out there like this and get it funded.
Fried Kickin
17-07-2015
You could easily craft a house based reality show that was different enough from BB.
For example.

A prison or stockade .. inmates being filmed 24/7 ... competition to survive another week.
Fried Kickin
17-07-2015
Originally Posted by threecheeses:
“The no end seems a scary thought but I like the idea of a longer ongoing one with people coming and going.
There must be a way to get an idea out there like this and get it funded.”

I think the original idea of The Golden Cage was that it would only end if everyone left of their own free will.
It was quite a bully fest from my understanding.
Folks here who complain to ofcom would actually explode
orangeballoon
17-07-2015
there are lots of bb type shows...

mtv, itv2 etc are full of them

that is why BB and the others have evolved over the 16 years and hundred or so of series around the world...

programmes borrow a bit of what worked, take away bits that didnt work so well, add new things... they have info by the minute on viewing numbers, what popped, what flopped, what people turned to watch instead, what social media was saying and they adapt to try and keep the viewers and attract new ones and cut out all the flopped. remember they are after a specific audience for their advertisement sales profile... so if towie viewers are the target or fashion, expect more "towie" feels.. if they consolidate their audience then they may wish to "expand it" like when star trek has hooked in the geeks the later programmes that adjust the characters to cut out what failed etc will add some extra bits to widen the appeal if possible...

do you really think "im a celeb get me out of here" and "celeb bb" are that different?

the question really is, why are you so out of tune with what s happening in the tv world and what they are seeing is demanded by the mass audience that pays the huge bills for these risks. this show is no "random accident of production" no matter how many know nothing fantasists claim things for "emergency meetings" on DS
orangeballoon
17-07-2015
the sort of BB some people want you dont need a tv for...
get down the local library and sit in the reference section just watching people all day
or for a more lively "bland random people" watch, get a bus ticket and just sit and watch people on the bus all day.

that is why BB is not made the way you want...
remember NO tv is random, everything is structured and planned to likely happen. nothing is left to chance...
not top gear, not game shows (the price is right in the 80s used to choose "random people from the audience - except while they were from the audience of the day, the show researchers went up and down the queue outside identifying the "likely entertaining people" to be randomly chosen)... and on the radio, "lucky line 6" is not the 6th caller or line 6, its the person who sounded the most like the profile of excited caller they want on the air...)
threecheeses
17-07-2015
Originally Posted by orangeballoon:
“
the question really is, why are you so out of tune with what s happening in the tv world and what they are seeing is demanded by the mass audience that pays the huge bills for these risks. this show is no "random accident of production" no matter how many know nothing fantasists claim things for "emergency meetings" on DS”

BB isn't pleasing the mass audiences though like it used to, ask anyone who has dropped out of watching it, the same reasons appear, too many people with agents, too much manipulation by BB, it's become too TOWIE so it has lost what maybe as many as 8 million viewers? that is a crazy number for a show to lose, why fix something that isn't broken, why try to move on with the times to attract this new audience when all it has done is fail?
orangeballoon
17-07-2015
Originally Posted by threecheeses:
“BB isn't pleasing the mass audiences though like it used to, ask anyone who has dropped out of watching it, the same reasons appear, too many people with agents, too much manipulation by BB, it's become too TOWIE so it has lost what maybe as many as 8 million viewers? that is a crazy number for a show to lose, why fix something that isn't broken, why try to move on with the times to attract this new audience when all it has done is fail?”

rubbish. it is doing very well in enabling c5 to equal or beat c4 in the same time slots even though c5 spends far less money than c4 does
bb also held a stable 5.5% to 6.5% of the available audience when the highlight show aired (the "debbie downers only ever quoted the "number of people" as it helped them sell their invented meaning for the drop in numbers between days, ignoring all channels lost viewers too)
BB was getting 40% of the BBC1 or ITV1 audience size too.
of course it "needs to change" actually tell me one show that over 10 years has not changed its edit theme, added "new characters" or "removed boring old ones" etc... even the news "rejigs itself" in set design, news readers and what kind of news stories it emphasises

what do you expect it to be able to do! beat BBC1 ??

if your benchmark is to judge it against the 2001 days then Easternders etc need to do the same. it doesnt... while c4 is doing no better than BB even with its new shows it heavily promotes. add to that when BB was on in 2002 it did not have any competition from ITV2, BBC3, the +1 channels, the streaming devices or the other "alternative entertainment spends" (more people going out etc) that have meant ALL tv viewing is down for each main channel from those days.

your valuation is flawed because what you mark to market it to is a crock of shiet
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