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Ben & Paul & The Dead Body!
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Aaron_Silver
18-07-2015
Originally Posted by Grouty:
“I was howling me, was brilliant, off his stroke, and finishing off, comedy gold! ”

Totally agree. The reaction on here is totally ott. When I die you can have an orgy in the room if you want, I'll be dead and not giving a shit
David Wright
18-07-2015
Originally Posted by Aaron_Silver:
“Totally agree. The reaction on here is totally ott. When I die you can have an orgy in the room if you want, I'll be dead and not giving a shit ”

Well that's up to you, but I'd run it past your relatives first and ask them what they think... Especially at the Undertakers where they would be paying large amounts of money expecting to have you treated with respect and dignity.

I don't think anybody's reaction has been OTT... Like I said in my original post, it wasn't the worst thing in the world... But it was in bad taste, pretty "ugh" and would have been better had it not happened.

Dominic is capable of much better than this. But all "serial drama's" tend to get a bit silly in Summer when they have many episode's to fill and not much else going on...
Daisy_Duke
18-07-2015
Originally Posted by Stube:
“People are really overreacting on here. As someone else has said, it's black comedy. I'd rather EE tried something a bit daring and jaw-dropping rather than the same old soap clichés time and time again. If people are really that offended by it then wow...”

Offended? No. I'm not that delicate a flower. I do feel it was in very poor taste though. This is a soap, not a black comedy, it's on at 8 in the evening.
Aaron_Silver
18-07-2015
Originally Posted by David Wright:
“Well that's up to you, but I'd run it past your relatives first and ask them what they think... Especially at the Undertakers where they would be paying large amounts of money expecting to have you treated with respect and dignity.

I don't think anybody's reaction has been OTT... Like I said in my original post, it wasn't the worst thing in the world... But it was in bad taste, pretty "ugh" and would have been better had it not happened.

Dominic is capable of much better than this. But all "serial drama's" tend to get a bit silly in Summer when they have many episode's to fill and not much else going on...”

Perhaps I just look at things a little differently from other, people do think some of my more out there opinions a touch bizarre perhaps, however, the way I saw it last night from the context of the program itself was this;

Ben and Paul are young early twenties males embarking on a not so clandestine affair. Abi has been warned by everybody including Ben himself that he was unlikely to remain faithful. Ben is still afraid of the consequences of being an out gay man, mainly because of the actions of Phil over the years. They weren't particularly thinking with their heads, another part may have taken over, and they did something that they probably shouldn't have but they are young and young people make mistakes. It's far from the worst thing to happen in soap. The black comedy built around it was extremely funny in my view. I am not sentimental about death and a lot of people I know don't understand that but I believe in respect strongly, but when they are living because once your dead, you're gone. I don't get this respect the dead nonsense, yes respect the dead but only if you did so when they were alive. I do think the outrage is rather ott, however you were not one of those I was talking about there have been more extreme comments. I respect your point of view but respectfully disagree, and I hope you don't think I showed a lack of respect as I do have a warped sense of humour at times and my comments should always be taken with a large pinch of salt tbh
americandream8
18-07-2015
Rolls my eyes! I'm sure that some of you guys are okay with the violence that the show usually provides but sex omg nooooooo, what about the kids!!!11!

They didn't even showed them kissing lol. It was a funny moment. Pam's "I think he's just finishing off!" line couldn't have been more obvious that this was a meant to be a funny scene.

You guys are acting like they shagged the dead corpse
Stube
18-07-2015
Originally Posted by Daisy_Duke:
“Offended? No. I'm not that delicate a flower. I do feel it was in very poor taste though. This is a soap, not a black comedy, it's on at 8 in the evening.”

Having it implied to viewers that two characters had sex while a dead body was in the room is hardly more inappropriate than the Trevor/Mo rape at Christmas scenes and the multiple murders that happen every year on the square.

Fair enough if some didn't find it funny (I didn't exactly laugh out loud either) but saying "EE sank to a new low" etc is just OTT.
Collins1965
18-07-2015
Maybe it's an age thing? Or maybe some people have not experienced the death of a loved one?

I appreciate the viewpoint of respecting the living, not the dead, but surely a dead body deserves some respect as well??

I would have been mightily offended if it was my mother lying there whilst two horny young people (of whatever sex) got it on in the room with her. In fact I would sue the Cokers for unprofessional conduct and report them to whatever body overlooks the running of funeral parlours.

So yes, you could say I feel strongly about it. Where does it end?? As long as they did not have sex with the dead body????

I have lost my parents, and my grandparents and I sat with their bodies whilst they were in the coffin. I did not love or respect them any less because they were dead. Thankfully they were treated with the respect they deserved. Unlike this farce.

I found it to be in the poorest taste possible. The comments made by the Cokers were not funny at all - if this is what passes for humour now at EE I think it is a sad day.

I also think Pam was way out of order letting Paul practice his hairdressing skills on that woman without getting permission from his next of kin. There are proper beauticians trained in that sort of thing, she should not have been there to be treated like some guinea pig. It was horrible.
Stube
18-07-2015
Originally Posted by Collins1965:
“Maybe it's an age thing? Or maybe some people have not experienced the death of a loved one?”

I'm in my early twenties, I've lost my brother - I even visited him at the chapel of rest - and I didn't find it offensive. But then I differentiate between soap and real life. Obviously we wouldn't want a member of our families murdered but surely we're not offended when watching Lucy lie dead on the common? The scene didn't exactly seem out of character for Ben and Paul - the former being psychopathic while the latter must love the thrill of being with a murderer.
Whedonite
18-07-2015
Originally Posted by Stube:
“I'm in my early twenties, I've lost my brother - I even visited him at the chapel of rest - and I didn't find it offensive. But then I differentiate between soap and real life. Obviously we wouldn't want a member of our families murdered but surely we're not offended when watching Lucy lie dead on the common? The scene didn't exactly seem out of character for Ben and Paul - the former being psychopathic while the latter must love the thrill of being with a murderer.”

I'm sorry for your loss. I visited my grandfather at the chapel of rest last year and I laughed a bit at the scene (I'm in my 20s too). Paul's grandmother's lines cracked me up.
Stube
18-07-2015
Originally Posted by Whedonite:
“I'm sorry for your loss. I visited my grandfather at the chapel of rest last year and I laughed a bit at the scene (I'm in my 20s too). Paul's grandmother's lines cracked me up.”

Thank you - sorry for yours too! The scenes reminded me of the novel Brighton Rock where one of the characters (Rose?) stated how she "loves a good funeral". It's that black comedy again. Fair enough it was on at 8pm but the sex was only implied and there's been a lot worse shown on television before the 9pm watershed.
morrislee
18-07-2015
Bad taste is putting it mildly ! what are the writers on theses days ,just made me feel ugh ..though that is also how i feel about the characters!
Belpry_1
18-07-2015
We're all different, I'm relatively young (mid 20s) & very luckily havent lost anybody close yet. But I did find that a little offensive & in bad taste. I took me a while to even register they would go there. I was very shocked!

I'd have thought tptb would've learnt from the dead baby swap s/l, I know a few people that to this day still refuse watch EE because of that.
Stube
18-07-2015
Originally Posted by Belpry_1:
“We're all different, I'm relatively young (mid 20s) & very luckily havent lost anybody close yet. But I did find that a little offensive & in bad taste. I took me a while to even register they would go there. I was very shocked!

I'd have thought tptb would've learnt from the dead baby swap s/l, I know a few people that to this day still refuse watch EE because of that.”

Again, I didn't really understand the outrage of the baby plot storyline. I can understand it being a very sensitive and distressing storyline to watch but to not watch EE because of it - even years afterwards - is something I don't understand. The storyline was far-fetched but it wasn't unbelievable considering it involved Ronnie.
curvybabes
18-07-2015
Originally Posted by Foxworth_Crane:
“It's called black comedy and was obviously meant to be farce. (Why Ben got locked in the room with the corpse.) I don't have a problem with them using something like this for fun once in a blue moon.”

Exactly the way some people are going on

Originally Posted by Grouty:
“I was howling me, was brilliant, off his stroke, and finishing off, comedy gold! ”

Me too it was hilarious

Was Paul meant to be cutting Mrs Birch hair? I thought because the Cokers want him involved in the business he was doing make-up
Aaron_Silver
18-07-2015
Originally Posted by curvybabes:
“Exactly the way some people are going on



Me too it was hilarious

Was Paul meant to be cutting Mrs Birch hair? I thought because the Cokers want him involved in the business he was doing make-up ”

Pleased to find someone else with a sense of humour and he was supposed to be practising a cut and colour curvybabes
duckylucky
18-07-2015
Originally Posted by Aaron_Silver:
“Pleased to find someone else with a sense of humour and he was supposed to be practising a cut and colour curvybabes”

Just because some of us didnt find this funny doesnt mean we dont have a sense of himour . Personally I found it stupid and crass and so predictable
curvybabes
18-07-2015
Originally Posted by Aaron_Silver:
“Pleased to find someone else with a sense of humour and he was supposed to be practising a cut and colour curvybabes”

Thanks Aaron yeah it tickled my funny bone
East2DaEnderz
18-07-2015
For me it was so despicable that i'm baffled as to why it didn't cause widespread outrage and debates on daytime television yet the BBC had to apologise for Titchmarsh saying "bastard trenching" on BBC breakfast.

Oh yeah probably cause about 3 people see the episodes these days.
cuza
18-07-2015
I've just watched this and I'm in the not funny camp.

I wouldn't like to think two half wits like those two were rogering each other next to the coffin of my dead mother.

I really don't expect to see that on a popular soap like EE. I thought it was quite pathetic actually.

And I'm not a prude or a humourless old fogey either.
firefly_irl
18-07-2015
It was bizarre, I've no idea what they were thinking when they came up with this idea.
pompeyfm
18-07-2015
I didn't find it offensive at all.
joe gillott
18-07-2015
I liked seeing semi-naked ben but it was disgusting to do it next to a dead body. Disrespecftul to the deciet and their family but also creepy. I wouldnt even be able to have a private conversation in the same room as although the person is dead...it still feels like they are watching. Let alone do what ben and paul did...😷
joe gillott
18-07-2015
Originally Posted by cuza:
“I've just watched this and I'm in the not funny camp.

I wouldn't like to think two half wits like those two were rogering each other next to the coffin of my dead mother.

I really don't expect to see that on a popular soap like EE. I thought it was quite pathetic actually.

And I'm not a prude or a humourless old fogey either.”

I agree. Also its creepy too.
Grouty
18-07-2015
Originally Posted by Aaron_Silver:
“Totally agree. The reaction on here is totally ott. When I die you can have an orgy in the room if you want, I'll be dead and not giving a shit ”

haha

Can tea bag me for all i'll care!
Aaron_Silver
18-07-2015
Originally Posted by Grouty:
“haha

Can tea bag me for all i'll care!”

Oh Grouty that's upping the stakes, but me, I;m up for anything
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