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advice on getting a new dvd recorder?
as i have began to learn getting anything new that i need or been used to using can be a minefield. so here it is i currently use an LG dvd recorder to record everday programmes to dvd ,yes with issues from time to time. i have been seeking to get a 2nd machine to use in the house ,pref the same make/model? i understand now LG no longer make the one i currently use,so after making a few enq i have began to think about getting the panasonic versions,however blueray has been mentioned & did wounder if BR would work with DVD? as this would mean now finalising all unfished dvd discs & off loading all work to a new BR disc? & just starting from new ,just like we did with VHS which now are stored in the loft.however a further search on panasonic website brought up this the DMR-EX86EB-K dvd recorder. & showing where to buy,again however searches for stores like ARGOS which panasonic gave ,gives no resault for such product?
though i have not looked yet ,some smaller tv/domestic prod companys might sell them? the question is now for me ,whats best now? & would it work?
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as i have began to learn getting anything new that i need or been used to using can be a minefield. so here it is i currently use an LG dvd recorder to record everday programmes to dvd ,yes with issues from time to time. i have been seeking to get a 2nd machine to use in the house ,pref the same make/model? i understand now LG no longer make the one i currently use,so after making a few enq i have began to think about getting the panasonic versions,however blueray has been mentioned & did wounder if BR would work with DVD? as this would mean now finalising all unfished dvd discs & off loading all work to a new BR disc? & just starting from new ,just like we did with VHS which now are stored in the loft.however a further search on panasonic website brought up this the DMR-EX86EB-K dvd recorder. & showing where to buy,again however searches for stores like ARGOS which panasonic gave ,gives no resault for such product?
though i have not looked yet ,some smaller tv/domestic prod companys might sell them? the question is now for me ,whats best now? & would it work?DVR recorders are pretty much a dead duck these days. If you have a PC with USB there is a number of devices you can record analogue sources direct to a PC without using a DVD recorder. Once on a PC it's not hard to create DVD disks from the captured files. |
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They are not very common any more one of the few companies that still make them is Panasonic I just had a quick look around and found this model.
http://www.richersounds.com/product/...a-dmrbwt740eb9 |
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DVD Recorders are getting very thin on the ground. Most people's recording needs are fully met by the PVRs which record to an internal hard drive. Very few now bother to archive off to disc so the demand for PVRs with DVD recording decks has dwindled. If you haven't already purchased then I'd suggest you get your skates on if you can still find a recorder with a DVD recorder drive. I think Panasonic is all Blu-ray now.
AFAIK there shouldn't be any issue using DVD recordable discs in a Blu-ray PVR. The Panasonic recorders are compatible with DVD+R -R and RAM discs, so that's pretty much all of the bases covered. If using a DVD blank then the recorder will only transfer TV programmes at standard definition quality. I can't comment how successful you'll be finalising recordings from an LG on a Panasonic though. Someone else here might have some direct experience. |
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ok thanks for all that info ,i think then thats my mind made up. i may go for the panasonic BR/DVD R but only when its affordable for me the price band i am seeking right now is £100-150 any higher than that ,i'll wait. on another note ,did someone here hint that its possible to record to disc using a pc hard drive? so in theroy i could connect a USB from tv to pc ,put a dvd disc in to the pc dvd drive & record that way? never done that before,sounds interesting?
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ok thanks for all that info ,i think then thats my mind made up. i may go for the panasonic BR/DVD R but only when its affordable for me the price band i am seeking right now is £100-150 any higher than that ,i'll wait. on another note ,did someone here hint that its possible to record to disc using a pc hard drive? so in theroy i could connect a USB from tv to pc ,put a dvd disc in to the pc dvd drive & record that way? never done that before,sounds interesting?
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ok thanks for all that info ,i think then thats my mind made up. i may go for the panasonic BR/DVD R but only when its affordable for me the price band i am seeking right now is £100-150 any higher than that ,i'll wait. on another note ,did someone here hint that its possible to record to disc using a pc hard drive? so in theroy i could connect a USB from tv to pc ,put a dvd disc in to the pc dvd drive & record that way? never done that before,sounds interesting?
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ok thanks for all that info ,i think then thats my mind made up. i may go for the panasonic BR/DVD R but only when its affordable for me the price band i am seeking right now is £100-150 any higher than that ,i'll wait. on another note ,did someone here hint that its possible to record to disc using a pc hard drive? so in theroy i could connect a USB from tv to pc ,put a dvd disc in to the pc dvd drive & record that way? never done that before,sounds interesting?
![]() http://www.dvdflick.net/ This has many advantages and the recordings are identical to the originals and you don't have to do it in real time. The files will copy in less time than replaying the content. If you can get one (try Ebay) a Humax HDR FOX T2 is ideal. Archiving is possible on the latest Humax Freeview+ pvr (HDR2000T) . Note 45 currently on offer on E-Bay http://www.humaxdigital.com/uk/produ...ct.php?gid=442 Note ideally you need a TV with a hdmi socket. |
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Not possible from a TV by USB. Ideally you should buy a Freeview+ pvr that allows the actual recording files to be transferred to a USB drive. These files when transferred to a PC can easily be burnt to a DVD using free DVD authoring software.
http://www.dvdflick.net/ This has many advantages and the recordings are identical to the originals and you don't have to do it in real time. The files will copy in less time than replaying the content. If you can get one (try Ebay) a Humax HDR FOX T2 is ideal. Archiving is possible on the latest Humax Freeview+ pvr (HDR2000T) . Note 45 currently on offer on E-Bay http://www.humaxdigital.com/uk/produ...ct.php?gid=442 Note ideally you need a TV with a hdmi socket. |
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ok i don't usally buy from ebay,its normally amazon .i do have freeviw at the moment but its all built in to the telly its one of those teknika makes? i currently use broadband from bt & they have a bt vision box (youview) i am interested in getting that ,the only bonus for me on that is really tv which screens most haunted,freesat which is what we use the record from does not have really on it,any programmes from here is currently transfered from here tv the lg dvd recorder if i feel such programme is worthy of it
If you have a dish the Humax Foxsat-HDR is also able to archive content (also discontinued). |
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The HDR FOX T2 is a discontinued model so you will only find a used model. They are veru sought after by enthusiasts. Normally the hard disks peg out first. Changing this is a simple DIY job. The Youview boxes do not allow any sort of archiving, so pretty useless if you want to save anything to DVD.
If you have a dish the Humax Foxsat-HDR is also able to archive content (also discontinued). does't anyone beleave in keeping memories alive on video? its alsways nice to look back on somthing watched in the past ,its why i began to archive video to dvd i wounder how broadcasters manage to archive there programmes?
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oh wounderful ,things can only get better.anything i need to archive video matrial is all discontinued
does't anyone beleave in keeping memories alive on video? its alsways nice to look back on somthing watched in the past ,its why i began to archive video to dvd i wounder how broadcasters manage to archive there programmes? |
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HDR2000T is current. Strictly speaking archiving TV for long periods is illegal.
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what? why is it ilegal? does that include film? thats a new one on me
![]() The grey area is just how long you can keep them. If you download iplayer content, it expires after 28 days. |
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what? why is it ilegal? does that include film? thats a new one on me
![]() Basically it is all down to copyright law. You can only do what the copyright holder permits you to do. In the case of broadcast TV programmes that means watching them. Strictly speaking the act of recording the programme without the copyright holder's permission is illegal. Though there is a general exemption for timeshifting. But anything else you do is likely to infringe the copyright in the programme. There is nothing new about this. It has been this way ever since the first VCRs appeared in the 1970s Quote:
Time-shifting https://www.gov.uk/exceptions-to-copyright
A recording of a broadcast can be made in domestic premises for private and domestic use to enable it to be viewed or listened to at a more convenient time. The making of a recording of a broadcast for purposes other than to time-shift a programme for you or your family is likely to be illegal. |
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The grey area is just how long you can keep them. If you download iplayer content, it expires after 28 days. |
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blimy reading that this so called grey area is a mind field,can't find anything there that might show i have broken a law through copyright.yes i got archived tv on VCR in the loft going back to 1990 possibly beyond ,my dvds only go back a few years ,yes totps i have archives partly from youtube .partly from bbc 4 ,i aim here was to get as near to a 42 year collection if time allows ,this may not be possible.i wanted to do the same with eurovision the so called SC but thats a 60 year archive,the only others are schools tv,film & tv.
It wouldn't be the first time a broadcaster has had to get lost programmes from a similar source. I would only bother with content of personal significance on DVD or Blu-ray blanks Easiest to store content on a hard disk and replay to a TV using a cheap media player. A 1TB usb hard disk can hold a lot of recordings (around 200DVDs which take up a lot of storage space). |
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blimy reading that this so called grey area is a mind field,can't find anything there that might show i have broken a law through copyright.yes i got archived tv on VCR in the loft going back to 1990 possibly beyond ,my dvds only go back a few years ,yes totps i have archives partly from youtube .partly from bbc 4 ,i aim here was to get as near to a 42 year collection if time allows ,this may not be possible.i wanted to do the same with eurovision the so called SC but thats a 60 year archive,the only others are schools tv,film & tv.
https://www.gov.uk/topic/intellectua...erty/copyright There is a lot of information in that link. But the summary is... If something is subject to copyright then you can only do with it whatever the copyright owner or the law allows you to do. Anything not explicitly allowed renders you liable for either criminal or civil action depending on what exactly you do to infringe the copyright. Mind you I would suspect that in reality the chances of the rozzers turning up at 6AM to rearrange your front door and drag you off kicking and screaming to some dark dank cell is a little bit less than winning the Lottery Jackpot every week for a year without buying a ticket.
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so no worries about the above then
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so no worries about the above then
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You can never say it will never happen. It is just extremely unlikely. I suspect people like Trading Standards, (who would likely enforce criminal infringement), are more interested in people like market stall holders selling dodgy knock-offs by the van load than some bloke with a cabinet full of 30 year old VHS recordings of Coronation Street
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though i have not looked yet ,some smaller tv/domestic prod companys might sell them? the question is now for me ,whats best now? & would it work?

does't anyone beleave in keeping memories alive on video? its alsways nice to look back on somthing watched in the past ,its why i began to archive video to dvd i wounder how broadcasters manage to archive there programmes?