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Was BB16 the worst series ever?
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GibsonSG
19-07-2015
Originally Posted by Forever Changes:
“definitely in the bottom 3 for me.

surely it's time to put BB out of its misery.... I hope it won't be returning next year ”

It's signed up for at least another three years. Keep up, one bad year doesn't end this series. It carried on after BB4 or we wouldn't still be talking on here.
TVScanner99
19-07-2015
No way. BB4, BB12 and BB15 spring to mind. I think this series was pretty good.
lon_chaney
19-07-2015
Defo the worst BB imho.
To be fair the voting public were in large part responsible for that so go figure. maybe the manipulation needs to be done with a lighter touch and with more success to produce a decent programme that runs to script.
Irishdave
19-07-2015
It definitely wasn't the worst but the manipulation needs to stop. It's killing the show and driving away viewers. Channel 5 never seem to learn from previous mistakes though so I'm not optimistic for next year either.
JayUK69
19-07-2015
It was worse than BB4 for me, definitely the hardest one to watch until the end.

Have always been a faithful BB viewer and watched all of them from the start, never missing an episode. This series was a real struggle in the final few weeks. Once the likes of Jade, Marc and Adjoa got kicked out, it just kept going downhill rapidly.

This was the first series I've disliked every single finalist.
kat_mieoww
19-07-2015
Yes it just edges out bb15 for me and that was dire due the awful Helen and her final pass,however there were a few folk in last years I liked ,this year I had no one to root for,truly awful bunch of finalists,agree better housemates went early,vote to evict killed this years BB.
tommy-fresh
19-07-2015
Are people in this thread seriously saying 4 in 4 out ruined the series? That's when the show finally became interesting. It was on track to be one of the worst series until they shook things up like that. Having Marc in there (love him or hate him, one of the best housemates in years) was worth sacrificing 4 of those losers.

The addition of "legendary" housemates seemed very desperate though. A lowpoint for the show, in my opinion.
Syntax Error
19-07-2015
Not the worst, but the most meddled with & manipulated show to date.

BB4 & BB11 were worse.
Forever Changes
19-07-2015
Originally Posted by GibsonSG:
“It's signed up for at least another three years. Keep up, one bad year doesn't end this series. It carried on after BB4 or we wouldn't still be talking on here.”

why don't you keep up?

it hasn't been 'one bad year' - it's been bad year after bad year, getting steadily worse.

Ratings this year were down. Don't for a moment believe that we have another guaranteed 3 years - they could easily pull the plug if it becomes untenable.

I for one would welcome that.
Taintedmeat
19-07-2015
The worst was the one where it was women only on launch night
SULLA
19-07-2015
Not really. They are all much of a muchness.
Forever Changes
19-07-2015
Originally Posted by tommy-fresh:
“Are people in this thread seriously saying 4 in 4 out ruined the series? That's when the show finally became interesting. It was on track to be one of the worst series until they shook things up like that. Having Marc in there (love him or hate him, one of the best housemates in years) was worth sacrificing 4 of those losers.

The addition of "legendary" housemates seemed very desperate though. A lowpoint for the show, in my opinion.”

the thing is we'll never know what it would have been like had 4 in 4 out not happened, without getting into a parallel universe, so it's all speculation. Could have been better, could have been worse.

I think it was a mistake for the dynamics of the house because it effectively reset the series back to the beginning - 6 housemates left in the space of a couple of days.

and they could have added Marc as a new HM without culling a load of others
Forever Changes
19-07-2015
Originally Posted by CLL Dodge:
“All the best series had vote to evict.”

you can't really corellate that though - the best series are generally considered to be the earlier ones fron BB's 'golden' era, when it was always VTE, so comparison isn't really fair

who knows how much better many of the classic series may have been with VTS?
Hound of Love
19-07-2015
Originally Posted by Taintedmeat:
“The worst was the one where it was women only on launch night”

BB8. Yes, that was crap.

Along with BB4, BB10, BB12, BB15 and this series.
027huds
19-07-2015
Not quite as bad as BB12, but certainly not a good series by any stretch of the word.

In fact it really doesn't feel like a series at all. More like a selection of slightly-connected mini-series that makes the whole thing feel weirdly disjointed. Like I really wouldn't say the last two weeks even slightly resembled some of the middle weeks.

BB16 1.0 was great and building up nicely. The cast seemed more down to earth, yet still interesting enough to watch. Sure, it wasn't immediately explosive but the dynamics were actually interesting to follow for once and things were just starting to get good. But all the blame for the poor production decisions, e.g. starting the series early with no promotion and putting it up against BGT were laid at the door of the cast and then we got....

BB16 2.0, which was where things tooks a turn for the dreadful. All the original housemates took a backseat to Marc being a knob, Harry getting her nips out, Simon being a grubby little troll etc. as proof that the originals were dull and needed spicing up. Cue more awful twists and things just got dull.

BB16 3.0 comes along and makes 2.0 look like a wonderful walk in the park. The Marc show became the Marc + Helen show which was naturally terrible. The originals took even more of a backseat so w could watch them trundle out more and more ex-housemates. Had it's interesting moments, but still only once you accept what a car crash the series has become.

BB16 4.0 was the last two weeks and this slightly redeemed things for me. We were finally allowed to enjoy the actual cast thanks to the overdue eviction of Marc and even though the money twist was just more meddling I liked that we finally got to see more of the original even if it was a bit late.

Soyeah, all in all it was just really messy and not what I'd call great BB at all.
bb2011fan
19-07-2015
Did you not see last years series?
Tall Paul
19-07-2015
Originally Posted by ValW:
“BB15 is going to take a massive amount of beating for that title, in my opinion. I couldn't bring myself to watch this year's because of that debacle. I'm catching up a bit now it's over but I'm not going to watch the "Legends" (or should that be leg ends) weeks, they'll just annoy me too much and are irrelevant to the actual game.

BB had no faith in the people they cast and panicked at the first sign of low ratings up against BGT which was always going to wallop it. With an intensive casting process the producers should know exactly what makes their HMs tick and how to use them to create interesting dynamics. It shouldn't be about who can shout the loudest into everyone's faces. The show's problem isn't that the cast is boring - nobody on this planet is intrinsically boring - it's that the producers don't know how to use them to their best advantage.”

Nick samwell-smith needs to resign as he is ruining the show like mad.
richie4eva
20-07-2015
Not THE worst, but definitely down there with 15, 8 and 4

But too many mistakes marred the promising start

Early start with barely any promotion so hardly anybody knew it was on

Up against the aftermath of the General Election, BGT, end of the football season/playoffs/FA Cup/Champions League/Eurovision, examination season....Never really stood a chance

4 in 4 out, which has been discussed to death

The fact the original housemates were relegated to the background when Marc and all the 'legends' came in and long overstayed their welcome, and the originals were not allowed to shine in their own right until the last couple of days

Barely any live feed, 30 minutes some will say is better than nothing but barely enough for us to get to know this year's housemates

Too many of those 'who said what' tasks - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iwY5o2fsG7Y
Fanntastik
20-07-2015
worst one for me. It all fell apart after the disastrous 4in4out.
Forever Changes
20-07-2015
Originally Posted by 027huds:
“Not quite as bad as BB12, but certainly not a good series by any stretch of the word.

In fact it really doesn't feel like a series at all. More like a selection of slightly-connected mini-series that makes the whole thing feel weirdly disjointed. Like I really wouldn't say the last two weeks even slightly resembled some of the middle weeks.

BB16 1.0 was great and building up nicely. The cast seemed more down to earth, yet still interesting enough to watch. Sure, it wasn't immediately explosive but the dynamics were actually interesting to follow for once and things were just starting to get good. But all the blame for the poor production decisions, e.g. starting the series early with no promotion and putting it up against BGT were laid at the door of the cast and then we got....

BB16 2.0, which was where things tooks a turn for the dreadful. All the original housemates took a backseat to Marc being a knob, Harry getting her nips out, Simon being a grubby little troll etc. as proof that the originals were dull and needed spicing up. Cue more awful twists and things just got dull.

BB16 3.0 comes along and makes 2.0 look like a wonderful walk in the park. The Marc show became the Marc + Helen show which was naturally terrible. The originals took even more of a backseat so w could watch them trundle out more and more ex-housemates. Had it's interesting moments, but still only once you accept what a car crash the series has become.

BB16 4.0 was the last two weeks and this slightly redeemed things for me. We were finally allowed to enjoy the actual cast thanks to the overdue eviction of Marc and even though the money twist was just more meddling I liked that we finally got to see more of the original even if it was a bit late.

Soyeah, all in all it was just really messy and not what I'd call great BB at all.”

it felt like a series which suddenly mutated into a celebrity BB halfway through and then back to civilian again.

it also seemed pretty short - aren't they normally longer?
Barracute
20-07-2015
Every year we have a thread by someone saying that years BB is the worst ever ! Instant knee jerk reactions are par for the course naturally. However whilst this year was far from perfect (too much meddling with noms to the point we never actually had a single week of noms were no one was immune and all nomd and all noms were done in secret in the DR - and remained secret ) it still didnt sink to the depths of BB8 for me.
Veri
20-07-2015
Originally Posted by Barracute:
“Every year we have a thread by someone saying that years BB is the worst ever ! Instant knee jerk reactions are par for the course naturally. However whilst this year was far from perfect (too much meddling with noms to the point we never actually had a single week of noms were no one was immune and all nomd and all noms were done in secret in the DR - and remained secret ) it still didnt sink to the depths of BB8 for me.”

But often that year's BB was the worst to that point.

I can't guess what might make someone think bb8 was worse than bb16. Bb8 had a much better set of HMs, imo, and though it had Carole, at least it didn't have Helen.
Reality Sucks
20-07-2015
TBH, I can't remember much after BB9. BB4 was very dull - I gave up on it and consequentrly missed out on BB5 as I didn't watch it as BB4 was so dire.

I didn't start watching BB16 until it was halfway through and only stuck with it because of Aisleyne and Nikki going in. The only memorable moment for me was when Marc said he'd rather give his dad a blow job than give John Mcririck a massage

In fact Marc was the only HM to ever make me laugh, which is a sad indictment on the rest of them. They need a better calibre of HM.
seether
20-07-2015
Originally Posted by Sunnydays:
“ Btw.......he [Marc} seems much better now he has left the show, maybe, as I had hoped, it was just an OTT act put on for the sake of BB........for his sake, and for the sake of his future family, I do hope so.”

Yes, pretty much as expected, but this just makes it all the worse for me! like the stupid kid at school who ruins the year for everyone else & does a volte face the second they leave & reforms into a paragon of the system, too late to be of any use.

Originally Posted by 027huds:
“Not quite as bad as BB12, but certainly not a good series by any stretch of the word.

In fact it really doesn't feel like a series at all. More like a selection of slightly-connected mini-series that makes the whole thing feel weirdly disjointed. Like I really wouldn't say the last two weeks even slightly resembled some of the middle weeks.

BB16 1.0 was great and building up nicely. The cast seemed more down to earth, yet still interesting enough to watch. Sure, it wasn't immediately explosive but the dynamics were actually interesting to follow for once and things were just starting to get good. But all the blame for the poor production decisions, e.g. starting the series early with no promotion and putting it up against BGT were laid at the door of the cast and then we got....

BB16 2.0, which was where things tooks a turn for the dreadful. All the original housemates took a backseat to Marc being a knob, Harry getting her nips out, Simon being a grubby little troll etc. as proof that the originals were dull and needed spicing up. Cue more awful twists and things just got dull.

BB16 3.0 comes along and makes 2.0 look like a wonderful walk in the park. The Marc show became the Marc + Helen show which was naturally terrible. The originals took even more of a backseat so w could watch them trundle out more and more ex-housemates. Had it's interesting moments, but still only once you accept what a car crash the series has become.

BB16 4.0 was the last two weeks and this slightly redeemed things for me. We were finally allowed to enjoy the actual cast thanks to the overdue eviction of Marc and even though the money twist was just more meddling I liked that we finally got to see more of the original even if it was a bit late.

Soyeah, all in all it was just really messy and not what I'd call great BB at all.”

Very very well put ( as was all of Sunnydays' post, & the others who have said the 4/4 was a far too hasty panicky move). This is the first series I have actually stopped watching so if that is the yardstick then I guess it's the worst, although there are series in hindsight I could have given up on sooner, I probably just had more tolerance & sticking power. Last year's was certainly up there among the worst but at least had some redeeming HMs - though as with this year, spoilt by not seeing them out of the shadows. Once Marc et al came in this year the others almost literally faded into the furniture to the point even picking them out was a challenge, and it was indeed too little too late by the end.

Tell you what I really really miss for those that remember - the brilliant Graham Norton spots he used to do on BB at the beginning of his shows. I think if I could have seen him taking Helen & the rest to bits, and Marc this year, I could almost have gone on.
DamienS
20-07-2015
No. I think bb8 was the worst. And bb13 (Luke a year - was truly awful)
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