Was BB16 the worst series ever?

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seether

20-07-2015

Originally Posted by richie4eva:
“ Too many of those 'who said what' tasks - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iwY5o2fsG7Y”

Should think that's one thing we're more or less unanimous about, if you can be more or less unanimous (someone will come in now & say they like them, I suppose) - & by definition, too few tasks that are actually tasks ie things to do. Thriller, the OK Go thing, Beyonce, even The Old Bamboo, stuff they had to actually learn; precious little of that any more.

Veri

21-07-2015

Originally Posted by Forever Changes:
“you can't really corellate that though - the best series are generally considered to be the earlier ones fron BB's 'golden' era, when it was always VTE, so comparison isn't really fair”

Even on C5, the most successful series (bb14) used vote to evict. That doesn't mean VTE made it the most successful, but that year and the C4 years show that the claim the VTE ruins BB is wrong. The best and most successful BBs weren't ruined, and so they weren't ruined by VTE (or by anything else).

Quote:
“who knows how much better many of the classic series may have been with VTS?”

More likely they'd have been worse.

Veri

21-07-2015

Originally Posted by 027huds:
“Not quite as bad as BB12, but certainly not a good series by any stretch of the word.”

What was so bad about bb12?

Quote:
“In fact it really doesn't feel like a series at all. More like a selection of slightly-connected mini-series that makes the whole thing feel weirdly disjointed. Like I really wouldn't say the last two weeks even slightly resembled some of the middle weeks.

BB16 1.0 was great and building up nicely. The cast seemed more down to earth, yet still interesting enough to watch. Sure, it wasn't immediately explosive but the dynamics were actually interesting to follow for once and things were just starting to get good. But all the blame for the poor production decisions, e.g. starting the series early with no promotion and putting it up against BGT were laid at the door of the cast and then we got....

BB16 2.0, which was where things tooks a turn for the dreadful. All the original housemates took a backseat to Marc being a knob, Harry getting her nips out, Simon being a grubby little troll etc. as proof that the originals were dull and needed spicing up. Cue more awful twists and things just got dull.

BB16 3.0 comes along and makes 2.0 look like a wonderful walk in the park. The Marc show became the Marc + Helen show which was naturally terrible. The originals took even more of a backseat so w could watch them trundle out more and more ex-housemates. Had it's interesting moments, but still only once you accept what a car crash the series has become.

BB16 4.0 was the last two weeks and this slightly redeemed things for me. We were finally allowed to enjoy the actual cast thanks to the overdue eviction of Marc and even though the money twist was just more meddling I liked that we finally got to see more of the original even if it was a bit late.

Soyeah, all in all it was just really messy and not what I'd call great BB at all.”

I think that's a good analysis of bb16, but unfortunately 2.0 had more viewers than 1.0, and 3.0 had more than 2.0, so BB will probably think they were improving the show, rather than making it worse.

Tall Paul

21-07-2015

Originally Posted by richie4eva:
“Not THE worst, but definitely down there with 15, 8 and 4

But too many mistakes marred the promising start

Early start with barely any promotion so hardly anybody knew it was on

Up against the aftermath of the General Election, BGT, end of the football season/playoffs/FA Cup/Champions League/Eurovision, examination season....Never really stood a chance

4 in 4 out, which has been discussed to death

The fact the original housemates were relegated to the background when Marc and all the 'legends' came in and long overstayed their welcome, and the originals were not allowed to shine in their own right until the last couple of days

Barely any live feed, 30 minutes some will say is better than nothing but barely enough for us to get to know this year's housemates

Too many of those 'who said what' tasks - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iwY5o2fsG7Y”

Unfortunately Richie it comes across as though the producers don't give a shit over what we want in relation to twists. As long as the revenue is brought in, that's all their bothered over.

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