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Old 19-07-2015, 12:34
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Tomorrow night Dan is set to take revenge on Leanne & Liz by
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I love Leanne as a character but hell, if we are talking about 'having a past' does she reallly have any right to bring up Dan's murky past, given her own: druggy, prostitute, arsonist, fraudster, thief, adultress...
Yes she has changed but should she not have then taken Dan's word for it that he was a changed man as well & kept schtum about his past & just stayed out of his way!!

As for Foghorn, Fishwife bully McMutton, did she really have to put her own & Leanne's safety at risk by publicly humiliating a bloke she'd just been told was a violent bully in front of his boss & the teenage daughter he obviously worships!!

If I were Dan I would now be hellbent on revenge against these two & if I was Leanne or Liz I would be asking myself if I hadn't actually asked for it!!!
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Old 19-07-2015, 12:46
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I thought Simon wouldve already known about Leanne because Blanche or Tracy may have brought it up.
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Old 19-07-2015, 13:05
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I thought Simon wouldve already known about Leanne because Blanche or Tracy may have brought it up.
Blanche definitely mentioned it during the scene where she put too much make up on and got drunk trying to impress Simon's other grandad George. Simon was definitely in that scene.

"Granny Blanche, why've you got a funny face on?"

"Oh and now I'm being told off by the former prostitute"

Link to the scenes here.
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Old 19-07-2015, 13:10
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Daves a very naughty man...

Simon already has huge contempt for her, id stick the snot beast in cab to Peter
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Old 19-07-2015, 13:28
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Tomorrow night Dan is set to take revenge on Leanne & Liz by
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How do forum members feel about this?

I love Leanne as a character but hell, if we are talking about 'having a past' does she reallly have any right to bring up Dan's murky past, given her own: druggy, prostitute, arsonist, fraudster, thief, adultress...
Yes she has changed but should she not have then taken Dan's word for it that he was a changed man as well & kept schtum about his past & just stayed out of his way!!

As for Foghorn, Fishwife bully McMutton, did she really have to put her own & Leanne's safety at risk by publicly humiliating a bloke she'd just been told was a violent bully in front of his boss & the teenage daughter he obviously worships!!

If I were Dan I would now be hellbent on revenge against these two & if I was Leanne or Liz I would be asking myself if I hadn't actually asked for it!!!
It's a fair point. Leanne must have met a considerable number of dodgy characters when she went off the rails. The sensible thing would be to move on and forget the past. It would have been wiser to take Dan's word that he was a changed man - maybe he could have, he might have found religion or gone for anger management counselling or whatever - and now it's going to blow up in her face.
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Old 19-07-2015, 13:35
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...........and Liz and Leanne will portray themselves as helpless victims in all this.
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Old 19-07-2015, 13:36
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Blanche definitely mentioned it during the scene where she put too much make up on and got drunk trying to impress Simon's other grandad George. Simon was definitely in that scene.

"Granny Blanche, why've you got a funny face on?"

"Oh and now I'm being told off by the former prostitute"

Link to the scenes here.
Exactly so I don't really see why Leanne is so bothered about telling Simon.
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Old 19-07-2015, 13:41
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Blanche definitely mentioned it during the scene where she put too much make up on and got drunk trying to impress Simon's other grandad George. Simon was definitely in that scene.

"Granny Blanche, why've you got a funny face on?"

"Oh and now I'm being told off by the former prostitute"

Link to the scenes here.
These are two separate scenes.

When Blanche revealed Leanne was a prostitute (as well as the rest of her family's flaws) Simon wasn't in the scene.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_zT-4PZFuzc

But I am still surprised after all those years Simon hasn't found out from someone.
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Old 19-07-2015, 14:02
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I expect this storyline is just to give Simon more ammunition to slap Leanne about. The brat should be grateful. She is the one who has remained there for him, it wasn't her fault that the flat caught fire, it was his pissheaded father.

Ok he may blame her for Kal's death, but he was only with them for two minutes.

What the hell does he blame her for? Why this turnaround. This was a kid that used to throw himself into everyones chest and demand hugs, now he just needs a good telling off.

If I was Leanne, I wouldn't be taking the crap she is, I'd be taking his laptop off him, grounding him and making sure he has a real reason to despise me, the little git.

I'm not a fan of this abuse storyline
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Old 19-07-2015, 14:24
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If I were Dan I would now be hellbent on revenge against these two & if I was Leanne or Liz I would be asking myself if I hadn't actually asked for it!!!
Yeah, cos it's fine for men to beat up women if they were 'provoked' isn't it?

...........and Liz and Leanne will portray themselves as helpless victims in all this.
When are abused, terrorised women ever NOT the victims??

Dear god, I feel like I just time-travelled back to the 70s.
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Old 19-07-2015, 14:29
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It's a fair point. Leanne must have met a considerable number of dodgy characters when she went off the rails. The sensible thing would be to move on and forget the past. It would have been wiser to take Dan's word that he was a changed man - maybe he could have, he might have found religion or gone for anger management counselling or whatever - and now it's going to blow up in her face.
She did initially take his word for it and promised not to say anything but his own paranoia got the better of him and he was aggressive and threatening towards her which showed he was far from a changed man, it was through fear that he might hurt Liz that she blabbed, not to take the moral high ground or be vindictive.

The thing I didn't agree with was Liz telling his daughter. That was just wrong, and probably gives him the idea that he has the right to do the same to Leanne by telling Simon. Liz went too far. She shoukd have just dumped him quietly and asked him to leave, she's such a drama queen
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Old 19-07-2015, 15:14
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She did initially take his word for it and promised not to say anything but his own paranoia got the better of him and he was aggressive and threatening towards her which showed he was far from a changed man, it was through fear that he might hurt Liz that she blabbed, not to take the moral high ground or be vindictive.

The thing I didn't agree with was Liz telling his daughter. That was just wrong, and probably gives him the idea that he has the right to do the same to Leanne by telling Simon. Liz went too far. She shoukd have just dumped him quietly and asked him to leave, she's such a drama queen
It's something of a strange situation that everyone on the street knows she's a former prostitute. Normally something like that would be a secret and her friends and neighbours wouldn't have a clue (which would mean she wouldn't even have the opportunity to expose Dan).

Perhaps she could have handled the whole thing a bit better. Her first reaction when she had a one on one with Dan was to threaten to tell Liz about his past, which then sparked off his paranoia and hostility towards her.

Liz handled it disastrously of course. Naming and shaming him in front of a pub full of people amounted to slander and defamation of character - she hadn't a shred of evidence to back up her allegations against him.
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Old 19-07-2015, 15:17
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...........and Liz and Leanne will portray themselves as helpless victims in all this.
Oh won't they? You just know they will. Blub blub....I was never a prossie..

So Simon finds out she was on the game. He's gonna really hate her for this..

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Old 19-07-2015, 15:30
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Yeah, cos it's fine for men to beat up women if they were 'provoked' isn't it?


When are abused, terrorised women ever NOT the victims??

Dear god, I feel like I just time-travelled back to the 70s.


What about the verbal abuse dished out by Liz in front of her boyfriend's daughter and boss which has probably ruined his life.

I don't condone the violence but Dan had done nothing to her. She was lashing out about something that happened to someone else, ten years ago.

If Leanne wants to have a go at him, fair enough. I just think Liz was out of order. I also think Leanne should have left it in in the past. She has changed, so he may have done too, for all she knew.
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Old 19-07-2015, 15:36
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Blanche definitely mentioned it during the scene where she put too much make up on and got drunk trying to impress Simon's other grandad George. Simon was definitely in that scene.

"Granny Blanche, why've you got a funny face on?"

"Oh and now I'm being told off by the former prostitute"

Link to the scenes here.
He was too young at that point to understand
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Old 19-07-2015, 15:38
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Tomorrow night Dan is set to take revenge on Leanne & Liz by
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How do forum members feel about this?

I love Leanne as a character but hell, if we are talking about 'having a past' does she reallly have any right to bring up Dan's murky past, given her own: druggy, prostitute, arsonist, fraudster, thief, adultress...
Yes she has changed but should she not have then taken Dan's word for it that he was a changed man as well & kept schtum about his past & just stayed out of his way!!

As for Foghorn, Fishwife bully McMutton, did she really have to put her own & Leanne's safety at risk by publicly humiliating a bloke she'd just been told was a violent bully in front of his boss & the teenage daughter he obviously worships!!

If I were Dan I would now be hellbent on revenge against these two & if I was Leanne or Liz I would be asking myself if I hadn't actually asked for it!!!

I TOTALLY AGREE ....such a hypocrite .

Let's not forget she's SAINT LEANNE now...gah
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Old 19-07-2015, 15:39
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If I was in a similar situation I would like to think a friend would tell me and not leave it until it was to late...Dan seems like a nasty piece of work and with drink down him I think he could turn very very nasty......Better to be wise than sorry..
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Old 19-07-2015, 15:44
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What about the verbal abuse dished out by Liz in front of her boyfriend's daughter and boss which has probably ruined his life.

I don't condone the violence but Dan had done nothing to her. She was lashing out about something that happened to someone else, ten years ago.

If Leanne wants to have a go at him, fair enough. I just think Liz was out of order. I also think Leanne should have left it in in the past. She has changed, so he may have done too, for all she knew.
Good point. She was engaging in questionable behaviour herself at the time he assaulted her and probably putting herself in harm's way (even though that was deplorable on his behalf) but it's not as if they had been in a relationship and he had committed domestic violence. The two of them were operating in a murky underworld at the time and such things are probably left in the past. Does anyone really need to know he was using prostitutes a decade ago for example?
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Old 19-07-2015, 15:53
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I actually thought Simon already knew...I'm not a fan of Leanne anyway so I'm all for her being 'outed'
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Old 19-07-2015, 16:03
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IDan seems like a nasty piece of work and with drink down him I think he could turn very very nasty......Better to be wise than sorry..
Hold on. You'd condemn him for 'being a nasty piece of work'

You don't think being pushed he lost his job and daughter over something which happened years ago..

But thats the way Corrie is nowadays. The lowest common denominator. Features stories for 8 year olds..
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Old 19-07-2015, 16:31
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Yeah, cos it's fine for men to beat up women if they were 'provoked' isn't it?


When are abused, terrorised women ever NOT the victims??

Dear god, I feel like I just time-travelled back to the 70s.
Whoa!! I think you're missing my point here, in fact you seem to have cut out the whole section explainig it!! I am not condoning his past violence or even encouraging him to be violent now but, looking from his angle, he's told Leanne he's changed, settled down, has a daughter!! Given the way people have accepted her as changed I think she should have accepted he had & left the past alone!!
Far worse was Liz though, as far as I'm concerned the way she handled it was despicable & I would really not blame him for 'losing it' with her!! Shame by her actions she's made it far worse for Leanne too, who was after all only trying to warn her!!
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Old 19-07-2015, 16:35
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These are two separate scenes.

When Blanche revealed Leanne was a prostitute (as well as the rest of her family's flaws) Simon wasn't in the scene.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_zT-4PZFuzc

But I am still surprised after all those years Simon hasn't found out from someone.
Ah, sorry! I didn't realise. Where is Simon though? All of his closest relatives are in that one room. He's there, then he's not. Was he sent upstairs to wash his hands? Seems unlikely. I'd be genuinely keen to know where he went!

He was too young at that point to understand
Simon has never been too young to not understand! This is the boy who, at the age of seven, made his way from Blackpool to Weatherfield via means of two trains and a bendy bus.
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Old 19-07-2015, 17:03
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................. I am not condoning his past violence or even encouraging him to be violent now but, looking from his angle, he's told Leanne he's changed, settled down, has a daughter!! Given the way people have accepted her as changed I think she should have accepted he had & left the past alone!! ..........................
I'm no fan of Leanne, but to be fair she was happy to leave the past alone. It was Dan who kept returning to it, and threatening her.
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Old 19-07-2015, 17:30
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Whoa!! I think you're missing my point here, in fact you seem to have cut out the whole section explainig it!! I am not condoning his past violence or even encouraging him to be violent now but, looking from his angle, he's told Leanne he's changed, settled down, has a daughter!! Given the way people have accepted her as changed I think she should have accepted he had & left the past alone!!
Far worse was Liz though, as far as I'm concerned the way she handled it was despicable & I would really not blame him for 'losing it' with her!! Shame by her actions she's made it far worse for Leanne too, who was after all only trying to warn her!!
Another thing is that Leanne told Liz about Dan's past in the strictest confidence over a quiet drink at the Bistro. Five minutes later, Liz announces to a packed pub that Dan has form for "beating up prostitutes". It wouldn't take people long to work out that Liz was referring to Leanne.....several people had already noticed that there was tension between her and Dan. So she has revealed something very private to all and sundry that Leanne presumably wouldn't want anyone knowing about.
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Old 19-07-2015, 17:33
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I'm no fan of Leanne, but to be fair she was happy to leave the past alone. It was Dan who kept returning to it, and threatening her.
Though Leanne did seem to initiate it. The first conversation she had with Dan, she dropped a strong hint she was going to tell Liz everything. Dan pleaded with her not to but she replied "Liz needs to know". Everything that happened subsequently spiralled from there.
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