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How the PC brigade would react to BB6 nowadays
Salv*
19-07-2015
So another year has gone and another year of OFCOM receiving lots of pointless complaints about the current series. It's pathetic to see. The question is... have BB viewers in general become much more sensitive, or are the new viewers much more sensitive than they were back in the C4 era pre Shilpa/Jade?

Looking back at BB6, if that aired now, we would have had numerous ejections or at least formal warnings that were never given out at the time.

Lesley- Kicked out for her treatment of Sam and threatening to beat her up outside the house.

Roberto- For his treatment of Sam and how he did things like throw bowls of pasta over people like Maxwell.

Makosi- "I know we'd have 'poofs' laughing at her" when talking about Craig.

Saskia- Nowadays would be seen as racist for her rivalry with Makosi and her comment "people like you have a chip on your shoulder" would be moulded as "black people have a chip on their shoulders" whether at the time she meant it as "drama queens like you" or "black people like you", is up for debate. Then there was her VT about immigrants bombing us, maybe why she never had friends outside the white English lot in BB6. Then "bunch of monkeys" when speaking of the others which primarily talking about the black HMs and Kemal. I recall Caroline saying the same thing about Adam in BB13 and got a warning for potential racist language,.

Maxwell- For threatening behaviour towards Kemal numerous times.

Science- For his rows in the house, leading to people like Orlaith crying, he would get warnings for that nowadays. Throwing water over Kemal. All these things would be seen as unacceptable nowadays.

Craig- His rows would be seen as threatening and he may have been called racist for his arguments with the black people in the house.

Anthony- For calling Derek a "malteser head", would be seen as unacceptable nowadays.

Kinga- For shoving that wine bottle you know where, there would be at least a warning for her nowadays.

Note how the Saskia group had all white people in their group, they disliked Vanessa, Makosi, Science and Derek at times. Nowadays, that divide would be seen as a racist divide.

I seem to recall that BB1-BB7, the warnings were always "strong language and scenes of a sexual nature" and that's it, nowadays on C5, it's "highly offensive language, nudity, sexual talk, aggressive confrontation, vitriolic tantrums". They even had "discussion of issues that viewers may find offensive" with the whole Harry "issues" thing. Jeez, the C5 series is tame compared to BB6. Imagine the sort of warnings BB6 would get if aired now. Well first of all, it'd probably be taken off as they would eject half of the cast.

Also to drop a older BB2 one in there, the much loved Helen Adams would have gotten a warning for threatening to "smack her one" when referring to a HM.
Harry Redknapp
19-07-2015
Science would be loved. Or be called aggressive.

Max and Saskia would be reviled - people do not like laddish or ladette behaviour and didn't they put scabs in Science food (max). However, they will be attracting some support.

Makosi would receive a hideous reception akin to Adjoa's on the way in and out.
michaelkegnan
19-07-2015
BB6 was good TV. **** political correctness AKA intellectual terrorism.
Desy Boy
19-07-2015
Originally Posted by Salv*:
“So another year has gone and another year of OFCOM receiving lots of pointless complaints about the current series. It's pathetic to see. The question is... have BB viewers in general become much more sensitive, or are the new viewers much more sensitive than they were back in the C4 era pre Shilpa/Jade?

Looking back at BB6, if that aired now, we would have had numerous ejections or at least formal warnings that were never given out at the time.

Lesley- Kicked out for her treatment of Sam and threatening to beat her up outside the house.

Roberto- For his treatment of Sam and how he did things like throw bowls of pasta over people like Maxwell.

Saskia- Nowadays would be seen as racist for her rivalry with Makosi and her comment "people like you have a chip on your shoulder" would be moulded as "black people have a chip on their shoulders" whether at the time she meant it as "drama queens like you" or "black people like you", is up for debate.

Maxwell- For threatening behaviour towards Kemal numerous times.

Science- For his rows in the house, leading to people like Orlaith crying, he would get warnings for that nowadays. Throwing water over Kemal. All these things would be seen as unacceptable nowadays.

Craig- His rows would be seen as threatening and he may have been called racist for his arguments with the black people in the house.

Anthony- For calling Derek a "malteser head", would be seen as unacceptable nowadays.

Kinga- For shoving that wine bottle you know where, there would be at least a warning for her nowadays.

Note how the Saskia group had all white people in their group, they disliked Vanessa, Makosi, Science and Derek at times. Nowadays, that divide would be seen as a racist divide.

I seem to recall that BB1-BB7, the warnings were always "strong language and scenes of a sexual nature" and that's it, nowadays on C5, it's "highly offensive language, nudity, sexual talk, aggressive confrontation, vitriolic tantrums". They even had "discussion of issues that viewers may find offensive" with the whole Harry "issues" thing. Jeez, the C5 series is tame compared to BB6. Imagine the sort of warnings BB6 would get if aired now. Well first of all, it'd probably be taken off as they would eject half of the cast.

Also to drop a older BB2 one in there, the much loved Helen Adams would have gotten a warning for threatening to "smack her one" when referring to a HM.”

There's a difference between PC and just what it is. A lot of the goings on were seen as racist then too. My problem is not the perception but the need to sanitize or censor it. We actually learn less that way and people just learn to camouflage their REAL feelings.

But does that make me think that some of the behaviour didn't emanated from a dodgy place? Of course not. I believe it did.

My feelings and instincts aren't politically correct, but censoring information or behaviour that informs those feelings and instincts is what happens now. Hence Danny becomes a nice guy and Maxwell is remembered as a villain.
B L Zeebub
19-07-2015
Political correctness is not about being easily offended.

As a long term member of the Brigade, I felt that Kinga had every right to enjoy a screw top bottle, and Derek's head did look like a Malteser.
Dangermoose
19-07-2015
Roberto should have won for throwing the pasta over Maxwell. One of my fave moments of that series

There's definitely a heightened sensitivity these days. Every passing comment seems to generate mass hysteria.

Give it a few more years we'll all be bound by law to be mute for fear of causing offence and every glance in someone's direction being taken out of all context
B L Zeebub
19-07-2015
Originally Posted by Desy Boy:
“There's a difference between PC and just what it is. A lot of the goings on were seen as racist then too. My problem is not the perception but the need to sanitize or censor it. We actually learn less that way and people just learn to camouflage their REAL feelings.
”

Well said.

In those days, we knew what we were seeing and were just waiting for the chance to evict the culprits and send them an important message.
Salv*
19-07-2015
Originally Posted by B L Zeebub:
“Well said.

In those days, we knew what we were seeing and were just waiting for the chance to evict the culprits and send them an important message.”

True, but nowadays the viewers wouldn't want to wait for the opportunity to evict them,. they'd complain to OFCOM and demand they get ejected immediately. And with C5 wanting to cover their backs, they would.

Lets not forget. Craig would be ejected for his stalking of Anthony probably too.

I just can't believe how different the circumstances would be if Saskia was in a C5 series, forget people like Helen, she'd be placed along with Conor as the most vile HM of all time. But people regard her in retrospect as "a bitch but entertaining", she certainly would be called something worse if she was on 10 years later!
Forever Changes
19-07-2015
Science did get a warning for throwing water at kemal
michaelkegnan
19-07-2015
Originally Posted by B L Zeebub:
“Political correctness is not about being easily offended.

As a long term member of the Brigade, I felt that Kinga had every right to enjoy a screw top bottle, and Derek's head did look like a Malteser.”

Truth!
michaelkegnan
19-07-2015
Originally Posted by Salv*:
“True, but nowadays the viewers wouldn't want to wait for the opportunity to evict them,. they'd complain to OFCOM and demand they get ejected immediately. And with C5 wanting to cover their backs, they would.

Lets not forget. Craig would be ejected for his stalking of Anthony probably too.

I just can't believe how different the circumstances would be if Saskia was in a C5 series, forget people like Helen, she'd be placed along with Conor as the most vile HM of all time. But people regard her in retrospect as "a bitch but entertaining", she certainly would be called something worse if she was on 10 years later!”

Saskia was okay, I would giver her the D!
GibsonSG
19-07-2015
Best moment was the Pirate task which none of them were enthusiastic about.
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