Good point.


Liz has a history of bullying, ask Steve. Just because she is a woman and uses verbal abuse instead of physical abuse, doesn't make her behaviour any more acceptable than Dan's.

If Dan had sought Leanne out quietly after their first chance meeting and apologised for his behaviour 10 years ago and explained how he'd changed and then treated her in the same friendly manner he has with everyone else, then fair enough. But every time he has encountered Leanne since that first chance meeting, without her saying anything at all, he has threatened her.

Leanne hadn't told anyone and there's been no evidence that she was going to - in fact she wanted to keep the whole of that past life quiet - so I can't understand anyone having sympathy for his character. He's a thug through and through and I don't blame Leanne for telling Liz - being threatened by someone for doing nothing every time you meet must be quite terrifying and a worry that he would get violent with someone else. I also don't blame Liz for outing him in public either - condemnation by a whole community is the only thing people like him understand.

Yes. ^^^

Leanne did the right thing by telling Liz. But Liz didn't. True to form in her role as vile harridan, she made a big scene in the pub in front of everyone. She should, as others have said, spoken to Dan in private.

Liz can't do anything in private. When she's off for a sh@g, she tells the whole of the Rovers and when she rips into someone it's in front everyone in the Rovers. Corrie think that makes her an admirable feisty woman who we all respect and love, when in reality she's nothing more than a sleazy tart and a nasty piece of work.

Tonight:


Our heroine strikes again?

Well I guess you could say then that if Leanne didn't want the curly shite to know she'd been a prostitute she shouldn't have been one.

People can and do change - Leanne expects everyone to accept she has but didn't think Dan could have. It seems he actually hasn't, but Leanne couldn't have known that at first.

Leanne wasn't really at fault for telling Liz though - it's Liz who behaved disgracefully, saying all that in front of Dan's daughter and his boss. But what can you expect from such a disgusting specimen as Liz McShite?

Maybe Dan will get really mad and do something awful like dousing Liz in petrol and setting her alight

Excellent descriptions of gag-inducing ****mutton

Can't believe that Tony's still going to want the dirty tramp when he comes back And what did Dan see in her anyway?? They could both do loads better.

Liz needs some character development - she should start going to singles bars and flirting with every man in the place. Unfortunately though, nobody will be interested in her - she just looks too tarty and disgusting, and her voice puts them off. Some guys even laugh at her behind her back, and Liz hears them The other women at the bar don't think much of her either. Poor Liz is forced to slink off in shame, and she decides to re-evaluate her life.

Of course this whole scenario is probably SB's way of making Tony seem 'not so bad after all' in Liz's eyes.

The fact that what Tony did to her was personal won't matter a jot.

I can't believe some people on here are in support of Dan or at least it seems like that. This man is scum and neither Liz or Leanne come anywhere close to him. What the hell is wrong with you people. Just because it was 10 years ago and he says he's changed and yet he's grabbing and threatening Leanne saying he'll tell Simon about her past. Yeah really looks like he's changed. Leanne should have told Liz the moment she recognised him.

.........but the argument is, Leanne threatened him with exposure first. That's when he turned nasty. If she had left it all in the past, he would have done too. Simple.

Therefore proving he hasn't changed.

Right, so being faced with someone telling your current girlfriend that you did something wrong ten years ago which would probably result in you losing her would make any man say "Okey, dokey, that's fine, go ahead love, I don't mind a bit" Sorry, I don't think it would.

Why the need to publicly humiliate him though? Liz hardly even knows the guy, they've only been on a handful of dates. All she had to say to him (in private) was "I'm ending the relationship. I've heard what you used to get up to".

Well, exactly. This is why some people feel a bit sorry for him even though he is aggressive.

This is the whole point to me!! By flying at him in public, if he really is still the violent psychopath people are saying he is then she has just put Leanne, the woman who bravely told her quietly in confidence explaining what she stood to lose by it, in the most terrible danger & possibly Simon as well!! But hey as long as she gets to have her public humlliation of someone who cares about the consequences for anyone else!!

I stand by what I said earlier, the woman is a bully & as another poster points out, just because it's verbal rather than physical, really doesn 't make her that much better than Dan!!

Good points.



He didn't just "do something wrong," it wasn't a mistake that happened once. He did it to SEVERAL people that we've been told of, he is a violent abusive man. Who knows who else he could have abused in the interim, maybe it isn't "just" prostitutes.


Her hypocrisy changes nothing about the situation. Liz is full of shit and also an abuser, that doesn't mean other people don't need protecting from a violent man.


PEOPLE HAVE THE RIGHT TO KNOW! Would you want to unknowingly socialise with someone like that? Or have a sister/daughter/friend doing so and getting involved with them?



Nope, because that isn't the same. Leanne isn't dangerous. And there is far more justification for turning to prostitution than repeatedly battering, threatening and intimidating women. No one turns to the latter, they do it because they're despicable.

Even if he had changed, someone getting involved with him has the right to know what he did. Although he did make it pretty clear early on that he wasn't remotely different. Who on earth would see someone who viciously beat them and other people years ago and think "oh well it's been a long time, he must be nice now?"

The daughter had every right to know what kind of man her father is, not least because she could be at risk herself. Just because he hadn't hurt her before doesn't mean he couldn't or wouldn't. I agree Liz is a detestable character, but not for that reason.

I agree that liz shouldn't have done it that way especially when Leanne said about him threatening to tell Simon although I really don't think it would of mattered because he'd have still told Simon whether she did it quietly or publicly but she could have done it in the back with Steve there. Liz has always been the same. Does things without thinking.

Confronting Dan on his violent behaviour: totally right.

Outing him as a violent thug, and frequenter of prostitutes, in front of a pub full of people and then telling his daughter about it: absolutely awful, and Liz should have known better.

And Leanne did absolutely nothing wrong.

But still long enough for Liz to invite Dan to bed, let him stand behind the bar like he owns the place, meet his daughter, for him to say she is the love of his life and for him to accompany her to her no.1 best mate's funeral.

I daresay Tony has been pining for her too!

Liz knows Leanne. She knows that she's a decent person who wouldn't benefit from lying about this in the slightest.


Wow, I absolutely love the misogyny in this post.

- Slut shaming. It never gets old.
- Claiming that Tony, a cheat and a thug and Dan, a violent thug are both too good for a "tramp". I'm sure this post would still exist if Liz were male.
- Adding the delightful "mutton" nickname. We don't hear that often enough. Older women need to know their place.

The "jokes" with the sexism in this place are ridiculous.

She undoubtedly has atrocious taste in men (and arguably they have too in women for getting involved with her) But it seems like she's unleashing her anger at her own stupidity in inappropriate ways.....any time a man crosses her, she talks about "revenge" and "making him pay for what he has done".

He has to come back at some point of course, but if Liz is stupid enough to have him back then she deserves him. I suppose she knows to a degree what she's getting with Tony, whereas the fist-happy Dan was never really going to happen.

And by the way, I'm sure I can remember Leanne appearing badly beaten during the days when she earned her money lying down. Nothing wrong with embellishing this story to create the current thread though!

This forum invites opinions from anyone who cares to enter here ... learn to live with it!

FYI the comments about Liz are bang on target. It's time she realised that all the make-up and high-heeled shoes in the world won't pass her off as some teenage sex vamp. For goodness sake woman, it's time you acted your age and exercised a modicum of decorum and self respect in the process, you just come across as too damn desperate! Maybe then (and only then) will you find a man who's a keeper.

Agreed.

Yes, how dare she wear what she wants. It's not respectful unless you dress the way society tells you to dress.


I'm perfectly fine living with the opinion of others. That doesn't mean I can't disagree. The sexism here is off the charts. Bring it up though and you get told it's "just a joke". I'm honestly trying to find the humour in constantly calling females sluts and slags.

Thank you.

The victim blaming mentality on this thread is really abhorrent. We've run the whole gamut of slut-shaming, misogyny, claiming Liz is a worse bully than someone who batters those more vulnerable than him, claiming she doesn't deserve the man who conned her and her son out of their business, putting the women involved in their place, agism, comparing prostitutes (who harm no one - in fact are more likely to be harmed and exploited) unfavourably to violent men. The list just goes on and on.

Some of the posters in this thread are willfully blind to the fact that Liz was very understandably furious to discover the man she's been dating had beaten up a friend and other women. It's completely twisted how Dan is entitled to be angry at Leanne for wanting to warn Liz, but the latter isn't entitled to be angry at him for his vicious crimes.

This may be a fictional case, but real victims deal with this ignorant mentality of blame all the time. You only have to read the tabloid stories (and the online comments) when a famous person is accused of abuse to see it in action. Is it any wonder victims of abuse are often afraid to come forward?

I despair.

What I find strange about this whole debate is that there is more hate on here for Dan who we have never seen hit any woman (yet) than there ever was for Kirsty when she was thumping Tyrone.

Go figure.



I guess my problem is, I find women like Liz a total embarrassment and her behaviour abhorrent, so I have to dig deep to find any sympathy for her.

Leanne is just a snappy little terrier who can appear holier-than-thou at times despite her dubious past.

So I struggle to empathise with either of them.

I am now dizzy from going round in circles on this thread.