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Old 19-07-2015, 23:54
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Does anyone think that trance will re-emerge? Seeing as house has re-appeared in the mainstream?
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Old 20-07-2015, 07:18
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You.still have acts like Deadmau5 and Eric Prydz who are keeping the spirit of trance alive usually infused with EDM but it's an evolution Also artists like Avicci and Armin Van Buren were originally trance acts and still use the sound in their music. It never went away it just changed imo
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Old 20-07-2015, 07:34
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You.still have acts like Deadmau5 and Eric Prydz who are keeping the spirit of trance alive usually infused with EDM but it's an evolution Also artists like Avicci and Armin Van Buren were originally trance acts and still use the sound in their music. It never went away it just changed imo
those acts are scorned by true trance fans... avb has 'sold out' like tiesto did, courting commercial success. same with avicci but as 'tim berg' (his real name) had a very 'trancy' hit 'seek bromance' a few years ago. theres been friction on social media between deadmau5 and binary finery, deadmau5 were being ***** saying binary finery dont know what trance is... pmsl... for me 1999 epitomises euphoric trance and would be a hard track to better. it was also the last track played on radio 1 on millennium night before y2k started.

trance is alive and well, just not in mainstream. tbh i doubt if anything good will become mainstream itll just be a copycat 'lets do this' but lack the real drive that the original movement had. all 'revivals' suffer from this as they try to play at being part of whatever movement, but end up being kinda play acting.

there are 'trance families' in many countries, the one in ibiza thankfully trying to promote the style .... however... i had a message on fb this morning from my son ( a trance dj, dj-ing in ibiza, on the set with judge jules friday) and he keeps getting 'told off' for playing trance at his residency ( entice bar), so he banged on (the uncut version of) the outhere brothers 'dont stop wiggle wiggle',
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Old 20-07-2015, 08:12
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Lets hope not.
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Old 20-07-2015, 09:05
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what a great, insightful response....
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Old 20-07-2015, 09:41
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what a great, insightful response....
I just remember the whole club 18-30 chavtastic pill popping generally moronic attitude of the Ibiza trance era. The music was total pap as well in my opinion, not an era I have any interest in revisiting.
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Old 20-07-2015, 10:49
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Maybe but you are just sounding like a old rock fan, equivalent of real rock was Led Zeppelin, modern rock is rubbish. Do you want trance to evolve into something new or do you want it to just sound like the 90s. If you want it to sound like the 90s just listen to that as it will never be beaten, it was the golden era. I have a crateful of 90s trance and '1999' is one of the best i agree.

Look at the house music hits today David Zowie is nothing more than a busier produced mid 80s faceless house track like 'Jack Your Body' but kids are hailing like the 2nd coming, It is no more fresh than Royal Blood reviving 70s rock.

For me the best trance record will always be this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MT9pH9C7Oew
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Old 20-07-2015, 18:03
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Maybe but you are just sounding like a old rock fan, equivalent of real rock was Led Zeppelin, modern rock is rubbish. Do you want trance to evolve into something new or do you want it to just sound like the 90s. If you want it to sound like the 90s just listen to that as it will never be beaten, it was the golden era. I have a crateful of 90s trance and '1999' is one of the best i agree.

Look at the house music hits today David Zowie is nothing more than a busier produced mid 80s faceless house track like 'Jack Your Body' but kids are hailing like the 2nd coming, It is no more fresh than Royal Blood reviving 70s rock.

For me the best trance record will always be this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MT9pH9C7Oew
me?...

yes you possibly have a point there. i do believe that in most, if not all, cases a genre was best the first time around when it was fresh and exciting, cutting new ground and where a generation bought into it (no matter what the style of music was... not just trance).

imho revivals, and ive seen quite a few, are often pale imitations of the original. a new generation play acting at what the original movement was all about.

tbh im not sure id like a new resurrection in trance, id only welcome it if it produced some new classic sounds and didnt try to repeat the original material.

yep... age of love was brilliant, one of the greatest ever.
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Old 21-07-2015, 03:43
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I don't think that trance will come back the way it did in the late 90s as it was a true scene (music, radio exposure, clubs, even dress since e.g. crasher kids).

People such as oakie, jules and digweed still play trance.

I think a lot of the Edm sound that is popular in the States is very orientated.
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Old 21-07-2015, 03:46
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As is popular with dance genres they disappear and then reemerge under a different name a few yeArs later.

Such as speed garage / uk garage and big beat/ breaks
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Old 21-07-2015, 03:58
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those acts are scorned by true trance fans... avb has 'sold out' like tiesto did, courting commercial success. same with avicci but as 'tim berg' (his real name) had a very 'trancy' hit 'seek bromance' a few years ago. theres been friction on social media between deadmau5 and binary finery, deadmau5 were being ***** saying binary finery dont know what trance is... pmsl... for me 1999 epitomises euphoric trance and would be a hard track to better. it was also the last track played on radio 1 on millennium night before y2k started.

trance is alive and well, just not in mainstream. tbh i doubt if anything good will become mainstream itll just be a copycat 'lets do this' but lack the real drive that the original movement had. all 'revivals' suffer from this as they try to play at being part of whatever movement, but end up being kinda play acting.

there are 'trance families' in many countries, the one in ibiza thankfully trying to promote the style .... however... i had a message on fb this morning from my son ( a trance dj, dj-ing in ibiza, on the set with judge jules friday) and he keeps getting 'told off' for playing trance at his residency ( entice bar), so he banged on (the uncut version of) the outhere brothers 'dont stop wiggle wiggle',
LOL! Are they serious? I have never really classed Deadmau5 as trance, but I suppose now, people are having their own interpritation of what trance entails.

It is the best feeling in the world when you come accross a modern trance track that you love nowadays.
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Old 21-07-2015, 04:03
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As is popular with dance genres they disappear and then reemerge under a different name a few yeArs later.

Such as speed garage / uk garage and big beat/ breaks
Yeah this is true. Like loads of sub genres came from Trance and now is coming from house (electro house etc).

As soon as Martin Garrix came on the scene, other artists started to jump on the bandwagon with the same genre.
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Old 21-07-2015, 08:25
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LOL! Are they serious? I have never really classed Deadmau5 as trance, but I suppose now, people are having their own interpritation of what trance entails.

It is the best feeling in the world when you come accross a modern trance track that you love nowadays.

This is Deadmau5 and it is definitely trance

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zK1mLIeXwsQ
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Old 21-07-2015, 13:47
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This is Deadmau5 and it is definitely trance

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zK1mLIeXwsQ
its not what id classify as trance... im reliably informed its 'trouse', a trance/house hybrid.

but for arguments sake, lets say it is (after all, classifications arent black and white, theres no clear set boundary in musical styles as many tracks have elements of others styles in them) .... one track doesnt mean that they are trance producers, it means they produced 1 trance track out of many other non trance tracks. deadmau5 dont specialise in trance, so they cannot be called a trance act.
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Old 24-07-2015, 18:02
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This is Deadmau5 and it is definitely trance

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zK1mLIeXwsQ
I know this track and love it.

See, I interpret this as house more than trance. Maybe it's just my taste, but there is not much euphoria with this track.
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Old 24-07-2015, 18:03
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its not what id classify as trance... im reliably informed its 'trouse', a trance/house hybrid.

but for arguments sake, lets say it is (after all, classifications arent black and white, theres no clear set boundary in musical styles as many tracks have elements of others styles in them) .... one track doesnt mean that they are trance producers, it means they produced 1 trance track out of many other non trance tracks. deadmau5 dont specialise in trance, so they cannot be called a trance act.
I agree wholeheartedly with this. I don't see deadmau5 as a trance act,
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Old 24-07-2015, 18:39
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I know this track and love it.

See, I interpret this as house more than trance. Maybe it's just my taste, but there is not much euphoria with this track.
Trance isn't always euphoric, unless its Euphoric Trance. There's a lot more to Trance than what you hear in Ibiza, you know.
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Old 24-07-2015, 18:51
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one track doesnt mean that they are trance producers, it means they produced 1 trance track out of many other non trance tracks. deadmau5 dont specialise in trance, so they cannot be called a trance act.
Actually, deadmau5 has produced quite a lot of trance tracks. Also deadmau5 is one guy, not sure why you're referring to him as "they".
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Old 24-07-2015, 19:35
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Trance isn't always euphoric, unless its Euphoric Trance. There's a lot more to Trance than what you hear in Ibiza, you know.
Really?

All styles of trance are being played in ibiza, psy, dark, goa, progressive, etc not just euphoric/uplifting
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Old 24-07-2015, 19:38
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Actually, deadmau5 has produced quite a lot of trance tracks. Also deadmau5 is one guy, not sure why you're referring to him as "they".
Ok, i thought they/he was a duo... Fair play

But he isnt a trance specialist, hes a producer that (sometimes) produces trance, as opposed to a trance producer that only produces trance.
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Old 24-07-2015, 21:12
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This is Deadmau5 and it is definitely trance

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zK1mLIeXwsQ
I wouldnt call 'I Remember' as Trance its more Progressive House.
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Old 25-07-2015, 01:21
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Really?

All styles of trance are being played in ibiza, psy, dark, goa, progressive, etc not just euphoric/uplifting
Are you aware of just how many different subgenres of trance there are?

Not to start an argument, but to the layperson trance is the style of music you used to hear in Ibiza in the late 90's/early 00's and that's quite frankly wrong.
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Old 25-07-2015, 07:33
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Are you aware of just how many different subgenres of trance there are?
yes

Not to start an argument, but to the layperson trance is the style of music you used to hear in Ibiza in the late 90's/early 00's and that's quite frankly wrong.
no argument, we agree.

thats when it reached its height of popularity, and it will always be seen as connected to that era...especially with the 'kevin and perry' film .

but trance is alive and well, in various new subgenres albeit rather a nich market.

the ibiza trance family is keeping it alive and well in ibiza, arguably its spiritual home.
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Old 25-07-2015, 07:45
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Trance isn't always euphoric, unless its Euphoric Trance. There's a lot more to Trance than what you hear in Ibiza, you know.
Yes, I do know thank you very much. No need to get rude.

I like a lot of genres of trance, hard trance, psy trance etc etc.

All I was saying is that I don't deem "I rememer" as trance. But you do and that's your opinion and I respect that. So let me have mine.
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Old 25-07-2015, 07:50
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The point that I am trying to get across is that "I remember" does not give me that uplifting feeling.

There are tracks from the sub genres other than uplifting/euphric trance that give me that feeling, eg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ixzpd7Dmw_A The Theme by Jurgen Vries mixed by Jam X and De Leon.

I find "I remember" to be more of a "sunset" house track.
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