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Ian Beale is awfully casual about...
PorkchopExpress
20-07-2015
Hi daughter's death, her body being dumped and Jane creepily holding on to Lucy's purse and phone?

"Like you should have done the first time". Tut tut silly Jane.
garyessex
20-07-2015
I was thinking that might have been his undoing. Speaking t Sharon he seemed so unconcerned that Ben may have murdered Lucy
Noush
20-07-2015
I can't stand Ian. I hate his incredible hypocrisy. He has no shame at all. Awful man. And Jane too; awful man
Robinson1
20-07-2015
Originally Posted by Noush:
“I can't stand Ian. I hate his incredible hypocrisy. He has no shame at all. Awful man. And Jane too; awful man ”

Have you seen under her kilt?
Dan-Bevis
20-07-2015
I'm also a little surprised that Jay [at least] didn't find it a bit odd that Ian didn't react more negatively to his mugging confession. It was rather casual.

Jane can act the act, but Ian is out of his depth clearly, and I wonder just when he'll slip up.

Timebomb Cindy too.
Mattehhhftw
20-07-2015
Originally Posted by Dan-Bevis:
“I'm also a little surprised that Jay [at least] didn't find it a bit odd that Ian didn't react more negatively to his mugging confession. It was rather casual.

Jane can act the act, but Ian is out of his depth clearly, and I wonder just when he'll slip up.

Timebomb Cindy too.”

I wonder if Ben's arrest is the lead up to Kathy's return, the truth coming out?
Aurora13
20-07-2015
They've destroyed Ian character with this storyline.
Adrian_Ward1
20-07-2015
What will Kathy say.
Hank1234
20-07-2015
Originally Posted by Adrian_Ward1:
“What will Kathy say.”


She is no position to judge
srhgts
20-07-2015
He doesn't seem to give a shit. Very strange given his early grief scenes and how berserk he went at Jake when he was arrested.
Harlowe
20-07-2015
Ian and Jane really have not come out favorably in this storyline, you might been able to see their reasoning and overcome them covering up for Bobby sake even if it is ridiculous but suggesting framing someone else is just making them unlikable, especially he own brother!
zoza_65
20-07-2015
Ian has been horrible to people and doing deceitful things half of his life (e.g. telling Mel that Lucy had cancer so she'd marry him!) so this is just one step up from the normal really.

Jane however had mostly been nice up the Lucy murder storyline. She's been tainted by Ian!
Noush
20-07-2015
Originally Posted by Robinson1:
“ Have you seen under her kilt?”

Hahahaha! Oooohh noooooo I wouldn't dare!!
priscilla
20-07-2015
Ian, Jane and Bobby deserve to rot in jail. Bobby can't be that dense to believe Jane's story, none of them have felt bad about covering this up, Ian cried for one ep then was worrying about napkins. So far the aftermath hasn't impressed me, I'm guessing Ben getting arrested leads to Kathy returning.
srhgts
20-07-2015
Originally Posted by priscilla:
“Ian, Jane and Bobby deserve to rot in jail. Bobby can't be that dense to believe Jane's story, none of them have felt bad about covering this up, Ian cried for one ep then was worrying about napkins. So far the aftermath hasn't impressed me, I'm guessing Ben getting arrested leads to Kathy returning.”

I agree.
Aurora13
21-07-2015
Originally Posted by srhgts:
“He doesn't seem to give a shit. Very strange given his early grief scenes and how berserk he went at Jake when he was arrested.”

The whole thing is shambolic. I can live with occasional stupid storylines but this has fundamentally changed/damaged Beales. Beale family were dysfunctional not criminal. Now they are no better than Michell family. I thought in immediate aftermath of Lucy death they did a good job of pulling together Beales into a unit again but it's now just a shell filled with sensationalism and nastiness. Jane cannot have a long term future in EE. If Ian is to be redeemed he's going to have to shop her in.
WildeKnockout
21-07-2015
Originally Posted by Aurora13:
“The whole thing is shambolic. I can live with occasional stupid storylines but this has fundamentally changed/damaged Beales. Beale family were dysfunctional not criminal. Now they are no better than Michell family. I thought in immediate aftermath of Lucy death they did a good job of pulling together Beales into a unit again but it's now just a shell filled with sensationalism and nastiness. Jane cannot have a long term future in EE. If Ian is to be redeemed he's going to have to shop her in.”

I agree. The Lucy storyline was incredible up to the point they made Bobby the killer and then it just went to waste.
hallo girl
21-07-2015
I disagree, nobody knows what they would do to protect somebody they love. I agree some of it is over the top but it is a drama, but the underlying theme that ordinary law abiding people would do something illegal to protect a loved one is not so far fetched. He probably wouldnt have protected an adult. the fact that Bobby is a child rather than an adult is the twist. He is disappointed in Ben anyway and would not put him before Bobby but would put Ben before Max....watch this space.
Hank1234
21-07-2015
Originally Posted by Aurora13:
“The whole thing is shambolic. I can live with occasional stupid storylines but this has fundamentally changed/damaged Beales. Beale family were dysfunctional not criminal. Now they are no better than Michell family. I thought in immediate aftermath of Lucy death they did a good job of pulling together Beales into a unit again but it's now just a shell filled with sensationalism and nastiness. Jane cannot have a long term future in EE. If Ian is to be redeemed he's going to have to shop her in.”

He would be in trouble too if he shops her in
olivej
21-07-2015
the only part I find hard to believe is that Bobby, an 11 year old boy, has totally and utterly believed what his mum has told him

"No, he didnt hurt Lucy"

He knows he hit her over the head with a music box and he saw her lying on the floor in front of him yet he believes that she got up and someone else killed her

really
priscilla
21-07-2015
Originally Posted by olivej:
“the only part I find hard to believe is that Bobby, an 11 year old boy, has totally and utterly believed what his mum has told him

"No, he didnt hurt Lucy"

He knows he hit her over the head with a music box and he saw her lying on the floor in front of him yet he believes that she got up and someone else killed her

really ”

Same, wouldn't the police have questioned everyone close to Lucy including Bobby, how can he not know he didn't hurt her? Sorry he's either really stupid or knows he hurt her and pretending to not know. Didn't he say he tried to wake her up but she didn't and that's why he called Jane, I can't wait for this sl to be over.
Superstar99
21-07-2015
Originally Posted by priscilla:
“Same, wouldn't the police have questioned everyone close to Lucy including Bobby, how can he not know he didn't hurt her? Sorry he's either really stupid or knows he hurt her and pretending to not know. Didn't he say he tried to wake her up but she didn't and that's why he called Jane, I can't wait for this sl to be over.”

That is where Jane was very clever by taking Bobby away with her so that the police had no opportunity or reason to believe that he could have possibly been involved with her death. Taking him away was the best thing she could do and also it meant he was shielded from all the attention on the family, knowing he would have said something.

Jane has basically brainwashed the lad into thinking he was not the reason for Lucy's death and by taking him away it gave him enough time to put the whole event out of his mind. Kids quite often bury themselves in computer games and its not beyond belief that he has forgotten a lot about what happened that night.
priscilla
21-07-2015
Originally Posted by Superstar99:
“That is where Jane was very clever by taking Bobby away with her so that the police had no opportunity or reason to believe that he could have possibly been involved with her death. Taking him away was the best thing she could do and also it meant he was shielded from all the attention on the family, knowing he would have said something.

Jane has basically brainwashed the lad into thinking he was not the reason for Lucy's death and by taking him away it gave him enough time to put the whole event out of his mind. Kids quite often bury themselves in computer games and its not beyond belief that he has forgotten a lot about what happened that night.”

Oops I forget she took him away, I just don't think he would believe that he didn't hurt Lucy, or he would have at least felt guilty and affected by how he left things with her. Jane obviously drilled it into him he wasn't to blame. Bobby needs help he smashed his sister over the head, I just feel the aftermath could have been handled better, with Jane and Ian feeling more guilty.
vald
21-07-2015
Originally Posted by Superstar99:
“That is where Jane was very clever by taking Bobby away with her so that the police had no opportunity or reason to believe that he could have possibly been involved with her death. Taking him away was the best thing she could do and also it meant he was shielded from all the attention on the family, knowing he would have said something.

Jane has basically brainwashed the lad into thinking he was not the reason for Lucy's death and by taking him away it gave him enough time to put the whole event out of his mind. Kids quite often bury themselves in computer games and its not beyond belief that he has forgotten a lot about what happened that night.”

The police would not have let her and Bobby leave before they were questioned...the family are always the fist people looked at. I don't remember any of the family being questioned at the police station, just chats round the table at the house.
Aurora13
21-07-2015
Originally Posted by vald:
“The police would not have let her and Bobby leave before they were questioned...the family are always the fist people looked at. I don't remember any of the family being questioned at the police station, just chats round the table at the house.”

Agreed it stretches credibility beyond breaking point. Bobby not knowing he'd killed her! Police would have interrogated all the family after her death. Including Bobby. They know the killer is most likely within or close to family. Ben would have been hauled in months ago in reality.

As for Beale family reaction since February. Just totally unbelievable and family / character destroying. Especially Ian who matters to show. Audience have to believe in characters and destroying then just for sensational storylines will end up destroying the show. Remember Brookside.

I enjoyed Lucy storyline and was one of those who defended it in face of usual cabal claiming it was boring..... Funnily enough now it is more fitting for American satire show SOAP it's brilliant.
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