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Old 23-08-2016, 16:17
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WiFi calling on iPhone may not be unique but it's close.
But it's not though is it? What on earth are you talking about?
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Old 23-08-2016, 16:21
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But none of those features are unique to the iPhone anyway. What's your point?
Well, seeing as you asked.....

Visual voicemail (iPhone only I think, EE only I think - happy to be corrected)
VoLTE (not yet fully rolled out by Vodafone I don't think. Also requires 4G - hence Vodafone fail outside major towns and cities)
Wifi Calling (I get texts too, Vodafone can't deal with this 'advanced' concept via wifi calling.

None of the above are universally supported by all Android devices launched in the last 2 years. Some aren't supported at all. Many Android phones will never see these features, even if the hardware is capable. Apart from some of the very latest flagships, you have to buy network-branded Android devices to have any hope of accessing these services.

All these features are supported by iPhones launched in the last two years as far as I'm aware. All can support them now, as long as the network supports them - which brings me back to Vodafone and their failures...
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Old 23-08-2016, 16:28
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You are in for a surprise then!

I have a Samsung Galaxy Tab 8.9 running 4.0.4 ICS here are the apps that can't be updated.

Amazon, Google Now, Google Chrome, Periscope, Snapchat, Nectar.

How is that for starters?
I realise I meant V4.1 because that's when I believe they begun the whole separation allowing Play Services and other apps to be updated independently.

So, I'll concede on that. And Jelly Bean was from 2012, so four years isn't terrible.

And Samsung tablets are notorious for poor, if not non-existent, support. Wife got a Tab S (top of the line tablet from Samsung) and it's stuck forever on Lollipop - and even the update it got was late.

I would NEVER buy a Samsung tablet again. Not even that keen on their phones for various reasons.
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Old 23-08-2016, 16:39
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Well, seeing as you asked.....

Visual voicemail (iPhone only I think, EE only I think - happy to be corrected)
VoLTE (not yet fully rolled out by Vodafone I don't think. Also requires 4G - hence Vodafone fail outside major towns and cities)
Wifi Calling (I get texts too, Vodafone can't deal with this 'advanced' concept via wifi calling.

None of the above are universally supported by all Android devices launched in the last 2 years. Some aren't supported at all. Many Android phones will never see these features, even if the hardware is capable. Apart from some of the very latest flagships, you have to buy network-branded Android devices to have any hope of accessing these services.

All these features are supported by iPhones launched in the last two years as far as I'm aware. All can support them now, as long as the network supports them - which brings me back to Vodafone and their failures...
Android can support visual voicemail.
VoLTE is supported on Android.
WiFi calling with texting is availavle on Android.

We're comparing Android and iOS here. There is nothing the iPhone does (running iOS), that Android cannot do.
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Old 23-08-2016, 16:47
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Android can support visual voicemail.
VoLTE is supported on Android.
WiFi calling with texting is availavle on Android.

We're comparing Android and iOS here. There is nothing the iPhone does (running iOS), that Android cannot do.
It's pointless trying to drag me in to an Android/iPhone argument here - I'm an Android user who's never had an iPhone.

My point is that it's the luck of the draw which network features you can or will get access to on a current Android phone, whereas with an iPhone you're guaranteed that on the day you buy it, and for at least 2-3 years afterwards, if it's available on the network you use - you'll be able to access it.

It doesn't matter how you spin it - that's the case.
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Old 23-08-2016, 16:51
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I realise I meant V4.1 because that's when I believe they begun the whole separation allowing Play Services and other apps to be updated independently.

So, I'll concede on that. And Jelly Bean was from 2012, so four years isn't terrible.

And Samsung tablets are notorious for poor, if not non-existent, support. Wife got a Tab S (top of the line tablet from Samsung) and it's stuck forever on Lollipop - and even the update it got was late.

I would NEVER buy a Samsung tablet again. Not even that keen on their phones for various reasons.
I have a 5" Samsung YP-G70 tablet which shipped with Froyo and never got an update. Managed to get the official French Gingerbread ROM and installed that as they just didn't bother with the UK.

The Tab 8.9 shipped with Honeycomb 3.0 and ICS 4.0.4 was as far as it got.

Yes I wouldn't buy another Samsung tablet. While people might upgrade their phones every 2 years Tablets last a lot longer. With Google killing Nexus tablets in less than 3 years I suspect my next Tablet will be an Apple device. I would rather spend a bit more to get something that gets proper support. Even though i'm not an Apple fan.

I like Samsung Galaxy phones (better with Nova Launcher) but they do the bare minimum as far as support is concerned with 2 years being about the limit. Cheaper Samsung phones tend to get neglected as far as updates are concerned.
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Old 23-08-2016, 17:00
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Android can support visual voicemail.
VoLTE is supported on Android.
WiFi calling with texting is availavle on Android.

We're comparing Android and iOS here. There is nothing the iPhone does (running iOS), that Android cannot do.
No UK network support Visual Voicemail on Android (Marshmallow) . Its up to Carriers to support it and they don't.

The Carrier must provide a visual voicemail server implementing the OMTP VVM specifications.
https://source.android.com/devices/t...voicemail.html

VoLTE and WiFi calling is once again down to carriers and what should be quite simple to implement is kicked into the long grass by the networks. Androids fragmented mess means most networks don't bother. Even though there is plenty of phones Android that can support it.
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Old 23-08-2016, 17:19
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But we weren't discussing UK networks specifically. I said there is nothing you can do on the iPhone that you cannot do on Android.

Visual Voicemail is maybe true but the rest you can do on Android.

Apple don't make bad phones, they just don't appeal to me anymore. I used an iPhone from the 3G to the 5s.
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Old 23-08-2016, 18:21
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But we weren't discussing UK networks specifically. I said there is nothing you can do on the iPhone that you cannot do on Android.

Visual Voicemail is maybe true but the rest you can do on Android.

Apple don't make bad phones, they just don't appeal to me anymore. I used an iPhone from the 3G to the 5s.
*sound of barrel being scraped*

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Old 20-10-2016, 10:48
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Is that it for new phone releases this year?
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Old 20-10-2016, 10:50
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Is that it for new phone releases this year?
Huawei Mate 9 soon (not sure if coming to UK officially). New Wileyfox phone soon. Kodak camera earlier this week.

Nothing major between now and Christmas I'd imagine.
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Old 20-10-2016, 12:04
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LG V34 but it's another import only by the look of it.

http://www.phonearena.com/news/The-L...ve-one_id86703
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Old 22-10-2016, 23:11
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Yes I wouldn't buy another Samsung tablet. While people might upgrade their phones every 2 years Tablets last a lot longer. With Google killing Nexus tablets in less than 3 years I suspect my next Tablet will be an Apple device. I would rather spend a bit more to get something that gets proper support. Even though i'm not an Apple fan.
What many people don't take into account with Apple is this - yes you will get the OS support for much longer compared to Android. However, whilst you may get updates, that doesn't mean your hardware will necessarily be able to take advantage of the latest features. Example, lots of the older iPhone models never got Siri or Apple Pay to name just two well known features.
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Old 22-10-2016, 23:21
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Well they physically couldn't support Apple Pay for one and I thought Siri required a special CPU architecture?
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Old 16-11-2016, 18:25
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Anyone seen this in person yet or know the sort of money in the UK it is going to cost?

http://consumer.huawei.com/en/mobile...ate9/index.htm

It does look like a cracking phone from the sales pitch.
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Old 16-11-2016, 19:12
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Anyone seen this in person yet or know the sort of money in the UK it is going to cost?

http://consumer.huawei.com/en/mobile...ate9/index.htm

It does look like a cracking phone from the sales pitch.
Oooh likelikely

gutted this is sold out, but at £211 it would be.
https://www.o2.co.uk/shop/phones/hua...ype=payasyougo
found on
https://www.o2.co.uk/shop/phones/?co...rting.featured
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Old 16-11-2016, 19:15
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Anyone seen this in person yet or know the sort of money in the UK it is going to cost?

http://consumer.huawei.com/en/mobile...ate9/index.htm

It does look like a cracking phone from the sales pitch.
I've got one and it is great. No idea on pricing though.
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Old 16-11-2016, 20:38
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OnePlus 3T

http://www.alphr.com/oneplus/1004770...t-rivals-groan

The OnePlus 3T is, according to the Chinese manufacturer, “inspired by feedback from the active OnePlus community”. First thing on that list is a new processor, upgrading from the 2.15GHz Qualcomm Snapdragon 820 to the 2.35GHz Snapdragon 821. That’s the same processor used in the Google Pixel and Pixel XL phones, but with an extra 2GB of RAM (6GB to the Pixel’s 4GB).

On top of that, the battery gets a small but significant increase too, jumping from 3,000mAh to 3,400mAh. On top of that, the company’s Dash Charge promises to give a day’s worth of juice from half an hour of charging.
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Old 16-11-2016, 20:56
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OnePlus 3T

http://www.alphr.com/oneplus/1004770...t-rivals-groan

The OnePlus 3T is, according to the Chinese manufacturer, “inspired by feedback from the active OnePlus community”. First thing on that list is a new processor, upgrading from the 2.15GHz Qualcomm Snapdragon 820 to the 2.35GHz Snapdragon 821. That’s the same processor used in the Google Pixel and Pixel XL phones, but with an extra 2GB of RAM (6GB to the Pixel’s 4GB).

On top of that, the battery gets a small but significant increase too, jumping from 3,000mAh to 3,400mAh. On top of that, the company’s Dash Charge promises to give a day’s worth of juice from half an hour of charging.
Very disappointing, the 3t doesn't actually do anything that the 3 can't, other than a bit of extra battery life. I'm not even sure that couldn't be given to the 3, as it's been achieved by increasing the battery voltage from 4.35V to 4.4V, the watt hours of the battery is unchanged. Perhaps it would require a hardware change in the battery protection circuit, but it may also have been possible with a firmware update. It also comes with the downside that the 3t battery will last for less charge cycles compared to the 3.

A £70 hike (or £90 with the pre Brexit price) for very little upgrade, while the US only has a $40 increase.

Frankly there's better phones on the market for less money. What OnePlus appear to have successfully managed, is charging consumers a higher price, when their bill of materials for the 3t is probably lower than it was for the 3.

It's also unclear whether the 3 will still be available for purchase?
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Old 16-11-2016, 21:24
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The 3 is being replaced by the 3T.
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Old 16-11-2016, 21:35
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I've got one and it is great. No idea on pricing though.
Have you done a review yet?

How does it compare against the best (in my opinion) larger android phone of the Moto x Style? Really cant fault this phone for price V quality.
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Old 16-11-2016, 21:38
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No review yet. Bit behind on reviews. I've been doing more with the camera, which is really good. Super fast LTE speeds and general usage.

Great battery life too, and really very little to dislike. But I don't think it's going to be that cheap. As in around £500-600?
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Old 16-11-2016, 21:48
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Great battery life too, and really very little to dislike. But I don't think it's going to be that cheap. As in around £500-600?
If that's true OnePlus have lost the plot, the big draw of the early models was (near) flagship features for much less money.

Who in their right mind would take a chance on a budget Chinese maker with a fair bit of bad press regarding how they handle warranty and less than perfect QC at near Apple/Samsung prices?
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Old 16-11-2016, 21:54
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Sorry I was responding to the post regarding the Mate 9, not OnePlus.
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Old 16-11-2016, 22:17
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No review yet. Bit behind on reviews. I've been doing more with the camera, which is really good. Super fast LTE speeds and general usage.

Great battery life too, and really very little to dislike. But I don't think it's going to be that cheap. As in around £500-600?
Mind you same point really as well. That is a high price for a manufacturer who isn't really in the Apple / Samsung league.
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