You've don't it again, your post barely makes sense because you are using words/grammar in an unconventional manner. It's almost like it's been through Google Translate.

As a matter of interest, is English actually your first language?

The stuff you say about the tech in the S6 is true. So why is the battery life so crap then? TouchWiz?

Samsungs always called crap no matter what. Real use figures are at gsmarena and it does OK considering the high specs all round.

There is no standby battery life printed but I think I read it at 200 hours somewhere which sounds like it is in abysmal iPhone territory there.
Once reading that die shrinks increase power leakage is that why the standby totals seem to keep falling? Obviously, 64 bit does not help either.

Heat is always a battery killer, and on the hot days we've had this year, I've had loads of fun with phones getting hot in a pocket and draining without doing almost anything.

With such powerful chipsets and some designs that don't dissipate heat well, throw that in as another reason why so many high end flagships this year in particular have performed so badly.

I used over 50% battery on the LG G4 in under two hours. That was taking photos (sans flash), which I might add are stunning quality, but seriously - that's pretty much four hours if you extrapolate, and that's without any data usage, calls etc.

That would be 4 hours of using a camera. Which would be better than the battery life of most dedicated cameras, and I would suggest not be anything like representative of normal smartphone use.

Considering you also 'claim' to research, it begs the question, why you get things wrong so often.

It does explain that you are not doing it on purpose, so it can be put down to ignorance.

I know it's just camera use, but was just pointing out how you could kill a battery in a very short time by using it in certain ways.

Playing some games or doing some video editing on the phone would likely be the same.

I use my phone for so many things, with an actual phone being the least used function by miles!

We need a new word to describe these portable computers that are the size of a legacy mobile phone.

Some of my colleagues comment that their Samsungs are reliable on the original software release but after an update or two they find they can put the phone into pocket or handbag at start of work day on 95% or higher battery, get it out at lunch and its red hot with 40% battery left.

I wonder if the Android OS or the customisations are letting some flawed apps run in the background and not shutting them down. I think Apple iOS is a lot more aggressive in this area, until iOS 8 which lets a lot run in the background more often (and why people upgrading found battery life not as good).

A lot of the problems that occur after a major update, such as 4.4 to 5.0, can be solved by doing a factory reset. Just because an OTA lets you keep your data does not mean it will give you the best results.

Even an iPhone can get hot in a pocket, which then causes problems (like excessive battery drain). Trying to charge a phone when it's really hot is also a problem, as the phone will draw less power to try and keep the temperature down - or stop charging altogether. So you can have a red hot phone on 20% and be unable to charge it!

agreed, and I've been doing similar on desktop and laptop PCs for over 20 years. (never upgrade!).

but I suspect we are two out of 50 million people who don't ??

Well yes Li-Ion chemistry doesn't like extremes of temperature - same problems with extreme cold - e.g. phone mounted to Air Vent in car as sat nav, on super hot day.

My Huawei P8 is usually okay, but in the car and running TomTom GO, it soon runs very hot and even a 2.1A charger can't charge as quick as the phone consumes power - so it gradually falls over a 30-60 minute drive!

That S6 Edge Plus looks nice ....but at the rumoured £699 price point they can sod off.

Take £200 off and I'll have one.

The EISA (European Imaging and Sound Association) Awards 2015 took place over the weekend.

Notable winners:

European Advanced Smartphone - Samsung Galaxy S6 Edge
European Consumer Smartphone - Huawei P8
European Multimedia Smartphone - Sony Xperia Z3+
European Smartphone Camera - LG G4

Well the Daily Mail has a story and an image of the LG Nexus. If that is correct then it doesnt look that good to be honest, not as impressed as I was hoping that I would be.

The Nexus 5, besides disappointing battery life, is still an excellent performer. I am sure the new one will be very good, and benefit greatly from the lack of customisation and bloated overlays.

Personally, given how impressed I am with the Huawei P8, I think the Huawei made one is likely to impress me more and may well be my next daily driver.

What do you mean even? Being as thin as a Ryvita makes it hotter.

And its CPU is on a par with the K1 making it run hotter, though the desktop class GPU has to be another culprit on top of not using 14 or 17nm lower power silicon.

Regarding Samsung and other Big.Little phones, do any have a setting yet for 'little only'?
I can't see quad A53 using much more than 1 watt max whilst quad A57 has to be 4 or 5 watts+
Regarding stats that those 2 corporate minded souls prefer non discussion, I've seen data showing you can also run the S6 down in under 3 hours, showing the same as the iphone 6 in that case.

Anand shows the iphone being great for battery whilst supposedly similar test stuff elsewhere goes the exact opposite, making the iphone 6 very bad and Samsung correspondingly good.

I have no faith in benchmarks for batteries whatsoever. Even Anandtech. ALL that matters is real life usage and there are many many variables involved. The only thing you can do is look at what reputable reviewers and bloggers say and take the opinions of ones you trust. I have yet to see anyone say the S6 has excellent battery life and yet to see anyone who says the iP6+ doesn’t have excellent battery life.

But you CAN benchmark phones and it is surely possible to pretty accurately predict usage based on specific tasks. You can find out the consumption of specific apps in real time with the right 'tools', work out the consumption of the CPU and GPUs and loads of other things.

The thing is, most review sites (if not ALL, even the really focussed ones like Anandtech) cannot do that level of testing, and still be accused of not testing every combination of apps/games/screen on, or indeed how apps are used. A game being loaded isn't the same as being played heavily etc.

I think a good general rule is screen on time. That gives you a fairly good idea, and if you are glued to your smartphone every day - but generally only for fairly simple things like using social media, reading email, IMing and surfing the web then you'll likely get closer to the maximum SoT than if you're watching video that's streaming using mobile data, using GPS navigation (with the screen on updating maps in real time) or playing games.

Likewise, using the camera on some phones is another killer - and especially recording video.

I don't think any site has yet found a way to properly measure or compare battery life. Talking about a device lasting a full day is equally vague. I'm guilty of this myself sometimes, but there are just so many variables.

Ultimately though, if you've got a phone with a 4,000mAh battery then it will almost certainly beat one with a 3,000mAh battery, even if the latter phone has loads of power saving options. Chances are nearly all of those power saving options are when the phone is in a near or actual sleep state.

Indeed, and logically they should be done on default settings.
The default on Android is Chrome with its power sapping services all turned on.

But how can you benchmark the more consumer friendly Firefox Mobile and Opera mobile when they are not able to exist on IOS?

That's why when push comes to shove, the device with the largest battery is likely going to be the winner. You can perhaps further boost that via software, and selective use of apps, but start with the biggest battery and go from there.

Hence why the iPhone 6+ is far better than the 6, even with the larger display.

We now have a fair few devices with decent batteries on or coming on to the market, so there's little excuse to wind up with something poor (like the Galaxy S6), however nice looking the S6 and especially the edge models are.

I tend to trust gsmarena and its Endurance Rating.
So it can be said that the S6 battery lasts less than the S5.

But you get a bigger screen with twice the amount of pixels on it.
That's about 4 times as many as the more budget iPhone 6 and 9 times as many as my old San Francisco.

The Moto X Play is up for sale on the Moto website £279.
https://www.motorola.co.uk/moto-x/moto-x-play-uk.html

Is Moto X Play the cheap one and Moto X Style the expensive one with better specs?