There is a good reason the Note is not here, it simply being too costly to build.
If you check the all round spec of even the S6 you will likely find it costlier to build than any other smartphone out there.

You can see parts in it the S6 that cost triple+, and that is with ignoring the billons spent on that new advanced fab. The Note is worse for build cost, none of them really using commodity parts.


Koreans will happily pay big money for the Note, but here it is more about fashion.

Its £680 for the 64gb edge+ from CPW.
£600 for the 32GB.
The £829 is the pre order price from Samsung.....ye right
http://www.carphonewarehouse.com/sam...y-s6-edge-plus

Well in that case just buy the Samsung Galaxy Note 5 64GB for only £674.99 instead! It's £5 cheaper! Lol.

http://www.mobicity.co.uk/samsung-ga...k-saphire.html

There's this nifty new internet tool known as Google, you should try it some time .

A quick search reveals the following:


http://www.samsung.com/uk/galaxys6/#


http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/samsung-gal...note-5-1516049

It's nuts. Samsung have lost the plot. What happened to the company who offered iPhone quality at reasonable prices?

If they release the 128GB version they pulled last minute, can you imagine how much that will be?

Congratulations Mr Morris, I can confirm the bank has authorised your mortgage. You'll be required to pay a £500 deposit and £100 per month for the next 25 years.

If that's all okay, I'd like to wish you well with your new Samsung phone.

How on earth would switching off the A57 cores and relying solely on the A53 cores vastly improve performance?

Triple+ really? Have you got a source for that?

You seem to be suggesting that the Note 5 is significantly more costly to produce than the S6+ (as Samsung are selling the S6+ here and not the Note). The only difference is a Wacom digitiser and a pen compared to a curved glass screen. It could easily be that the S6+ costs more than the Note.

There is a reason why the Note 5 isn't coming and it's down to changes within Samsung, some of which are going to be pretty major going forward.

The Note range has struggled in Europe. Sure it has a fanbase, but I'd argue that many people will be able to get a Note 5 without too much hassle if they want (assuming they support the right bands).

From Samsung's point of view, its own research shows that most people here never use the stylus. Thus a lot, or even most, of the marketing is pointless and grossly expensive to run alongside the Galaxy S6 range - that sells three models. This is what Samsung will be concentrating on next year, dropping cheaper phones and the many variants we've seen that have been so far below the radar I bet few people can even name them.

It has little to do with the actual hardware cost. Samsung believes, perhaps rather naively, it can become a serious competitor to Apple but I am not sure charging over £800 is the way to go!

lol

You do realise who you are talking to there? The only source he knows about comes in brown or red and is actually spelt sauce .

Triple other phones. Such as 4 Gb DDR 4 Ram versus 1 GB DDR3 Ram.
The list is not endless but it is indeed the most advanced in so many ways, mentioned prior.

Yet people have a very strange idea of quality.

So what are these costs then?

How much does the DDR4 in the Note cost? As opposed to the DDR3 that was in the Note 4? Which didn't have 1GB...

What would be the difference in price between 4GB of DDR3 ram and 4GB of DDR4 ram?

Samsung does need to reduce the number of variants. Half the time it looked like they were just diluting their own market.

I'm told they're halving the number of devices being launched next year, but I also expect they'll also slash their marketing budget. They want to go up market, but I am not sure that's the right strategy.

We will know about 12-18 months from now.

Regarding the Note, they simply have not prepared a non Korean version.
Apart from the Note there is nothing more upmarket than an S6 and obviously costs are far higher if most choose the S6.

And hey, if Apple spend some money upgrading the iPhone 6 older tech spec stuff then Samung fabs may have S6 and Note production problems. A return to Qualcomm is even possible for Samsung.

There is nothing higher spec that the Note S6. Read the specs, and also investigate specs when the manufacturer chooses to omits them !

The Note 5 is out in the US so you're wrong about that. And if that supports European LTE bands then people will import that.

Is anyone buying the Note 4 here? Sames must be low.

I know people here love their Note but I have never seen anyone mention a need to upgrade it,it being years ahead of its 'fashion' time.
The masses/sheep have always bought the S series or the iPhone.

The Note has sold here, but people don't use the stylus (and therefore many of the special apps). As such, Samsung decided the S6 edge+ (same size screen) would suffice.

Perhaps operators also played a part. They too would likely prefer just one new device, given the S6 edge+ doesn't replace the other two models.

That's a lot of stock to manage. 32, 64 and 128GB models in a range of colours. Nightmare.

So, you've gone from it is too expensive for the UK market, moved onto its only available in Korea, to now talking about note 4 sales. Each time trying desperately to include your obsession with Apple. When will the nonsense you write stop. ?

Personally I've always thought that Samsung marketing for their phones have been very misguided. I'm sure they could save a lot of money and still make the same impact.

Cost again.
With smartphone sales now falling in China I'm expecting the high end market to shrink more dramatically, iPhones maybe the exception for 12 more months.

With Android most buyers already have high spec, the mid to low end being ultra competitive. That makes new sales even more difficult.
The Moto G shows how competitive it is, it being £150 or more whilst its close IOS competitor is £539 or more.

Lower end, but high spec, devices around the £100-300 mark are gaining in popularity (and why shouldn't they) so it's very odd that Samsung believes it can still become a high value player, like Apple, and ditch the cheaper stuff so there's nothing to devalue the brand.

I can see the logic, but doubt it will work - or certainly not overnight. And as I've said before, if you want an iOS device you buy an iPhone. There is no alternative maker, so it's iPhone 6 or 6+.

If you look at Samsung and see a Galaxy S6 edge+ retailing at over £800, or on contract for £50-60 a month, you can easily look to see what other people are doing. Then you can see what the likes of Motorola, Huawei, Honor, OnePlus and so on are offering.

I just don't think it can work for Samsung.

Of course if it does, Samsung will be making a fortune on the new edge+. The screen won't be cheap, but overall there's going to be a huge profit margin on £829 however you look at it.

Perhaps Samsung should rebadge their high priced phones like Toyota, Honda and Nissan did with their cars?

[quote=jonmorris;79323052I just don't think it can work for Samsung.[/QUOTE]

Me neither. Samsung has some good electronics, the problem is the software (Android) is generic. Their overlay (TouchWiz) isn't anything special, so you can get cheaper and equally 'good enough' devices now in 2015 that run the same Android apps.

That is what I was getting at though, that Samsung has to go to newer extremes of specification to justify their high end prices.

Stuff like the Moto G is built at a much lower price, moving up in specification only when commodity prices fall.