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Old 21-07-2015, 13:35
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I'm confused as this came out of the blue just like that!

Unless I missed something in between but why did those hapless detectives arrest Ben first before the new "economic migrant" witness even identified the photo???? In fact they were interrogating him while outside the room they were at the same time doing the spot the "suspect"???

I mean seriously, has DTC just pulled this out of a hat knowing that EE has sinked to new low right after the Whodunnit storyline that he thought "Well, we might as well bring it back and start the guessing game all over again"!!!

DTC is probably saying to his team about the EE viewers "Suckers"!!!!

TBF I really don't give a shit about this storyline anymore....it's done...move on!
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Old 21-07-2015, 14:09
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I'm confused as this came out of the blue just like that!

Unless I missed something in between but why did those hapless detectives arrest Ben first before the new "economic migrant" witness even identified the photo???? In fact they were interrogating him while outside the room they were at the same time doing the spot the "suspect"???

I mean seriously, has DTC just pulled this out of a hat knowing that EE has sinked to new low right after the Whodunnit storyline that he thought "Well, we might as well bring it back and start the guessing game all over again"!!!

DTC is probably saying to his team about the EE viewers "Suckers"!!!!

TBF I really don't give a shit about this storyline anymore....it's done...move on!
The story wasn't only about who done it, after you found out it was about how a family would cope with it and what they would do if someone got blamed for it when they didn't do it and the family knowing. I think it's not right just because the viewers know who did it now that the story should just be forgotten because that's not real life. The police just wouldn't stop looking so EE are right to bring it back to the front.

I must point out to that I'm not a massive fan of EE so I would agree but I don't think it's stupid.
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Old 21-07-2015, 14:14
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It's good that's it's being Revised. I'm sure it was always going to be.
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Old 21-07-2015, 14:39
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I dont think its a case of it being re-opened

the case is still open!

the police dont have a suspect - they dont know that Bobby dealt the final blow or that Jane dumped the body on the common

its only the viewers that know this and the family

as far as the police are concerned its still an active case
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Old 21-07-2015, 14:48
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And a new witness has just come forward. Looks like an illegal immigrant or someone whose visa has run out, so maybe didn't come forward before
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Old 21-07-2015, 16:38
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Yeah because the police will simply forget about a murder case a year or two on and that will be that.

http://edition.cnn.com/2014/02/06/ju...d-case-murder/
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Old 21-07-2015, 16:40
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Actually it was always going to be revisited Just a week after Live week DTC said that there would be an arrest
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Old 21-07-2015, 16:45
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The case was never solved or closed
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Old 21-07-2015, 16:46
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We've known since live week that that was not the end of the stroryline, it was even reported straight after that there would be an arrest in the storyline. It's good that it's being revisited, it's one of the best storylines the soap has ever had and far and away the best storyline it has at the moment, and to have ended it at live week would be wrong as there's still so much more that can be done with it.
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Old 21-07-2015, 16:50
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...why not? It's far more interesting than the Dean/Shirley/Mick/Linda/Jade merry go round claptrap.
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Old 21-07-2015, 17:03
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It's a storyline that links three families together and there are actually lots of different layers to it. Ben/Paul's affair, Kathys return, Max/Emma/the other copper triangle, Marsden/Phils history, Bens past including killing Heather, Max and Phils feud, Abis continuing to become a psycho, Jay/Lola's relationship, Janes dependency on Bobby as she doesn't have children of her own, Sharon and Phils turbulent relationship etc.

All these little avenues are all linked together and make for much interesting viewing than Nancy Nagging or Shirley Shrieking for the millionth time this year.
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Old 21-07-2015, 17:21
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The case wasn't closed so why not re-open? The viewers and the Beale's know what happened but nobody else does.
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Old 21-07-2015, 18:20
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Probably dtc regretting killing her off in the first place, cathy and lucy........ What could have been.
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Old 21-07-2015, 18:25
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I notice everyone is focusing on the OP's use of "re-opening", instead of addressing the obvious continuity errors.

Lucy's murder had become a cold case. Suddenly, it isn't, and they arrest Ben, interview him, while getting the taxi driver to identify Ben as one of two guys he saw with Lucy that night. How did they know to arrest Ben if the taxi driver had yet to make an ID?

Also, this isn't the first time we've met the taxi driver. Lauren tracked him down and got him to say that Lucy was with Jake that night, which is what made her suss about him being the killer. Why didn't the taxi driver also mention seeing her with Ben and Max?

How did the cops find the taxi driver? It's a cold case, so resources would have stopped being allocated. They wouldn't have assigned Marsden to a cold case, unless she's had a demotion of some sorts to that department. But, if that was right, then Keeble and co. wouldn't still be on the case.

I feel that this part of the story is very contrived. Ben was arrested purely b/c he's Ian's brother. If it had been anyone else, Ian would not have cared one bit. It's cheap drama without having to do much thinking at all.
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Old 21-07-2015, 18:32
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Even though the driver wouldn't have said it was Ben, he would have given a vague description (dark hair and glasses), and given Ben's family relation and criminal past - and the fact that the description meets the other person seen with Jay (who he is known to be friends with), and Ben's now a suspect.
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Old 21-07-2015, 18:37
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When was it said that Lucy's murder was now a cold case?
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Old 21-07-2015, 18:51
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Well as long as DTC still finds the storyline interesting, I mean who gives a stuff about the viewers who think it's endless crap.
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Old 21-07-2015, 18:55
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Well as long as DTC still finds the storyline interesting, I mean who gives a stuff about the viewers who think it's endless crap.
Not all the viewers think it's crap.
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Old 21-07-2015, 19:04
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The case wasn't closed, sometimes with no obvious leads you have to bide your time. Also as others said, its only us, ian,jane, peter, cindy and lauren (i think) who know that bobby killed her.

What we are seeing is the aftermath of the lucy beale murder and how it affects everyone around her. Its complicated and yes it will have plot holes, you can pick those apparent but you are failing to see how brilliant a story line this is..
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Old 21-07-2015, 19:06
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I can't help but feel this thread is another EE-bashing thread, especially considering the tone of comments thrown towards DTC. The "economic migrant" comment is also incredibly Daily Mail in tone - can't quite put my finger on it, but it comes across as a rather unpleasant turn of phrase.

This also stinks of another example of the Facebook generation not appreciating a slow-burning storyline. I love how the live reveal was the end of a particular chapter but not the end of the story. The police did visit the Beale's and point out that with no fresh leads the case was being relegated as such - not forgotten about - but dry of leads and suspects.

We now have a situation where someone has come forward - although it was heavily implied he's helping the police for visa reasons. It's a great twist, and as others have said, this was mapped out a long time ago with DTC saying during live week that this would be revisited with an arrest.

What this has done is open up a whole new plot with a family now knowing who the killer is, doing what they can to protect him, whilst living with the guilt of seeing others accused of the crime - including family members.

If Max is arrested, the return of Lauren, who is engaged to Peter and pregnant with his child (presumably having had the baby by then) will add another dynamic to the Beale / Branning dynamic.

We also in a matter of weeks have Kathy back in the fold. Will Ian tell her? How will this play with Phil and Ben? Whilst Kathy will have her own plot it's clear to me that she'll also be involved in the Lucy plot in some way or another.

We also have Sharon, another EE original feeding into the plot as best friend to Ian and wife of Phil.

Perhaps instead of bashing DTC he should be praised for successfully maintaining a long running storyline which not only ties in a lot of the key EE families and characters but also kept viewers guessing at the various twists.

Bravo that man.
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Old 21-07-2015, 19:07
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Wrong Thread.
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Old 21-07-2015, 19:09
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Well as long as DTC still finds the storyline interesting, I mean who gives a stuff about the viewers who think it's endless crap.
well not all viewers think it is 'endless crap' I don't, I think it has taken a very interesting turn.

We the viewers are in the position of knowing who the true murderer is whilst the majority of the 'residents' are in the dark, because of Ben's arrest the Mitchells are now heavily involved instead of being sympathetic bystanders, it brings Kathy into a terrible predicament (assuming she arrives in the midst of all the drama) her loyalties are going to be pulled in all directions, how far will Jane go to protect Bobby, will anyone keep Peter and Lauren updated?

There is no telling how it will all end and sometimes you need something more than everything being neatly tied up in six episodes!
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Old 21-07-2015, 19:18
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I really wish some viewers just wouldn't bother. Go down three places on your TV guide and watch Hollyoaks instead!

I applaud DTC for keeping such a riveting storyline going for this long, for keeping the twists and turns coming even after the reveal of the killer. Lucy's murder, I believe, will be remembered as one of the shows best storylines in years to come.

We were all crying out for a storyline like this during the Boxing-gate, Snake-gate and Billy's post-gate days!
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Old 21-07-2015, 19:19
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I can't help but feel this thread is another EE-bashing thread, especially considering the tone of comments thrown towards DTC. The "economic migrant" comment is also incredibly Daily Mail in tone - can't quite put my finger on it, but it comes across as a rather unpleasant turn of phrase.

This also stinks of another example of the Facebook generation not appreciating a slow-burning storyline. I love how the live reveal was the end of a particular chapter but not the end of the story. The police did visit the Beale's and point out that with no fresh leads the case was being relegated as such - not forgotten about - but dry of leads and suspects.

We now have a situation where someone has come forward - although it was heavily implied he's helping the police for visa reasons. It's a great twist, and as others have said, this was mapped out a long time ago with DTC saying during live week that this would be revisited with an arrest.

What this has done is open up a whole new plot with a family now knowing who the killer is, doing what they can to protect him, whilst living with the guilt of seeing others accused of the crime - including family members.

If Max is arrested, the return of Lauren, who is engaged to Peter and pregnant with his child (presumably having had the baby by then) will add another dynamic to the Beale / Branning dynamic.

We also in a matter of weeks have Kathy back in the fold. Will Ian tell her? How will this play with Phil and Ben? Whilst Kathy will have her own plot it's clear to me that she'll also be involved in the Lucy plot in some way or another.

We also have Sharon, another EE original feeding into the plot as best friend to Ian and wife of Phil.

Perhaps instead of bashing DTC he should be praised for successfully maintaining a long running storyline which not only ties in a lot of the key EE families and characters but also kept viewers guessing at the various twists.

Bravo that man.
Bravo to you too
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Old 21-07-2015, 19:21
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Well as long as DTC still finds the storyline interesting, I mean who gives a stuff about the viewers who think it's endless crap.
Speak for yourself.
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