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Old 23-07-2015, 19:31
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http://www.humaxdirect.co.uk/freesat.html

http://www.pocket-lint.com/news/134607-freesat-is-alive-and-well-in-the-humax-freesat-hdr-1100s-wi-fi-cheaper-and-more-compact

New/slightly tweaked shape.

Not sure of other changes.

New remote? Not sure.
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Old 23-07-2015, 19:50
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Had a look at this in Curry's the other day, absolutely unbelievable how cheap and nasty looking it is, it really is Fisher Price. Everything about it spells cost cutting, the quality of the silver logo and buttons on top is embarrassing. The cheap plastic its made of and cheap connections on the back are just awful, and they expect people to pay £190 plus for this. I would be embarrassed to have this on show under my TV, i would have to hide it away. This was the white version, but i doubt the black version is any better.

I am going to look for the older HDR-1000S model, they were not that great looking or build quality either, but is miles ahead of the HDR-1100S.
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Old 24-07-2015, 14:47
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I think the problem is they are competing with Sky boxes here which are subsidised.

I hope the quality on the inside isn't as bad as the outside.

Maybe they've changed supplier.
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Old 24-07-2015, 16:10
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Had a look at this in Curry's the other day, absolutely unbelievable how cheap and nasty looking it is, it really is Fisher Price. Everything about it spells cost cutting, the quality of the silver logo and buttons on top is embarrassing. The cheap plastic its made of and cheap connections on the back are just awful, and they expect people to pay £190 plus for this. I would be embarrassed to have this on show under my TV, i would have to hide it away. This was the white version, but i doubt the black version is any better.

I am going to look for the older HDR-1000S model, they were not that great looking or build quality either, but is miles ahead of the HDR-1100S.
As they all use the same software, it seems likely the internals are the same, apart from the display and scart socket.
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Old 24-07-2015, 16:55
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Had a look at this in Curry's the other day, absolutely unbelievable how cheap and nasty looking it is, it really is Fisher Price. Everything about it spells cost cutting, the quality of the silver logo and buttons on top is embarrassing. The cheap plastic its made of and cheap connections on the back are just awful, and they expect people to pay £190 plus for this. I would be embarrassed to have this on show under my TV, i would have to hide it away. This was the white version, but i doubt the black version is any better.

I am going to look for the older HDR-1000S model, they were not that great looking or build quality either, but is miles ahead of the HDR-1100S.
I never found any problems with Fisher Price stuff, I hope their legal department don't contact you in the coming days.
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Old 24-07-2015, 17:26
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I never found any problems with Fisher Price stuff, I hope their legal department don't contact you in the coming days.
Maybe i should retract my statement as Fisher Price is actually a lot better quality, i wouldn't have leg to stand on in court.

It's a real shame that they have scrimped on the quality of materials so much. The cost at point of manufacture would have been very little to upgrade the materials its made of. The quality of the silver buttons and logo on top is unreal. It's not even as if these boxes are cheap to buy, they are quite expensive. When you look at other electrical items in stores, even cheap £20-£40 products are much better quality than the HDR-1100RS. It is a real shame as it has really put me off buying one, i will not pay £190 for something that looks like a give away box even if it does do what i want it to.
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Old 24-07-2015, 17:29
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As they all use the same software, it seems likely the internals are the same, apart from the display and scart socket.
The internals are probably fine, they would have to be or they would just end up with loads of returns. This is only a small box so it wouldn't have cost much at point of manufacturer to make it at least half decent quality.
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Old 24-07-2015, 17:33
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It has been a while since i have frequented this Freesat forum, why is it so quiet on here nowadays, before this thread was started it was about 10 days since the last post had been made on any thread. It used to be a vary busy part of the forums.
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Old 25-07-2015, 08:55
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As the Freesat platform and associated products have matured things have settled down and there is less to talk about.
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Old 25-07-2015, 09:04
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Had a look at this in Curry's the other day, absolutely unbelievable how cheap and nasty looking it is, it really is Fisher Price. Everything about it spells cost cutting, the quality of the silver logo and buttons on top is embarrassing....
Totally agree! I always think the box design itself is important in conveying quality and making you feel that you are getting something for the money you paid for it, even if there is a lot of air space inside.
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Old 29-07-2015, 13:42
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Just had an email from Humax Direct offering 20% off the 500gb model. Just need to enter "20 FREESAT" at checkout. Brings it down to £151:20.
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Old 29-07-2015, 19:36
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I think we might see a few special offers over the coming months. Humax have really cut costs on making this box, i think they have made it as cheap as possible on purpose and plan to really push Freesat out to the market place with promotions. I wouldn't be surprised to see the BBC and ITV promoting it a lot more along with Humax, so we may see some very cheap prices in the near future.

It's ok making the box as cheap as possible as long as they don't charge high prices for it, i think we may see it selling at the £120 price point soon as they try to attract new users to Freesat, which is probably a fair price for what looks like a give away box. I haven't seen it in black yet, but if it doesn't look too bad i may buy one if the price is right. I want to see some user reviews first to check there are no problems with it, and whether there is any intrusive fan or hard drive noise, with it being so cheaply made it could be very noisy, but then for all i know it might not even have a fan in it.

Anyone bought one of these yet.
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Old 29-07-2015, 20:45
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Apparently Netflix will launch on Freesat Freetime soon.
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Old 31-07-2015, 21:40
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I've had a Foxsat for a few years now, and it's been great, but there's a couple of niggles with it - the interface is slow to react, which I can cope with by merely being patient and also, any time I pause a program, as soon as I unpause it shows the sub titles and I can't get rid of them. I've learned to get round these problems, but can someone please let me know - do the new models address these issues?
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Old 05-08-2015, 23:17
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I think we might see a few special offers over the coming months. Humax have really cut costs on making this box, i think they have made it as cheap as possible on purpose and plan to really push Freesat out to the market place with promotions. I wouldn't be surprised to see the BBC and ITV promoting it a lot more along with Humax, so we may see some very cheap prices in the near future.

It's ok making the box as cheap as possible as long as they don't charge high prices for it, i think we may see it selling at the £120 price point soon as they try to attract new users to Freesat, which is probably a fair price for what looks like a give away box. I haven't seen it in black yet, but if it doesn't look too bad i may buy one if the price is right. I want to see some user reviews first to check there are no problems with it, and whether there is any intrusive fan or hard drive noise, with it being so cheaply made it could be very noisy, but then for all i know it might not even have a fan in it.

Anyone bought one of these yet.
I've got a 500gb black one.

I'm not sure if the following points/niggles are unique to the 1100 or just Humax in general (I've given up with Sky HD and this is my first Humax box).

- the remote isn't great, noisy, badly laid out and volume doesn't punch through to the TV, just to the Humax box. I'm going to buy an all-in-one remote I think.

- the menu is a bit laggy, with too many clicks required for simple operations (play a recording, delete a recording etc). They could learn a lot from the Sky menu structure which IMO is excellent.

- the lack of a clear recording light is annoying - especially as an ex-Sky user

- it's slow to turn on

However having said that there are lots of features I like:

- it's quiet, has nice menu stylings and some smart features (going back in time, switching to HD channel, on demand services are well built in).

- the image quality is very good and recordings are timed perfectly and it has a very quick fast forward.

moving from Sky it's taken time to get used to, but with a new remote and a bit of time I think it'll have more pros than cons. The laggy menu is annoying and I'd hope in time they'd work on that.
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Old 06-08-2015, 15:05
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I wouldn't have leg to stand on in court. .
Didn't Oscar Pistorius try that line of defence? Look what happened to him!
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Old 06-08-2015, 15:23
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I've got a 500gb black one.

I'm not sure if the following points/niggles are unique to the 1100 or just Humax in general (I've given up with Sky HD and this is my first Humax box).

- the remote isn't great, noisy, badly laid out and volume doesn't punch through to the TV, just to the Humax box. I'm going to buy an all-in-one remote I think.

- the menu is a bit laggy, with too many clicks required for simple operations (play a recording, delete a recording etc). They could learn a lot from the Sky menu structure which IMO is excellent.

- the lack of a clear recording light is annoying - especially as an ex-Sky user

- it's slow to turn on

However having said that there are lots of features I like:

- it's quiet, has nice menu stylings and some smart features (going back in time, switching to HD channel, on demand services are well built in).

- the image quality is very good and recordings are timed perfectly and it has a very quick fast forward.

moving from Sky it's taken time to get used to, but with a new remote and a bit of time I think it'll have more pros than cons. The laggy menu is annoying and I'd hope in time they'd work on that.
The slow startup is down to the very low power standby requirement of less than 0.5W, which is a EU requirement.

Sky boxes don't really ever go into sby. The kid you by turning the video and audio only off. As a result the sby power consumption is over 40 times larger than a EU compliant box.

The box goes into the near equivalent of a sky box sby, 15 minutes before a Accurate Recording is due. If you boot the box during this period or during actual recording it will boot up very quickly.

A rough estimate of the extra power used by a Sky box every year will cost well over £20.00 in extra electricity.
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Old 07-08-2015, 11:00
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The slow startup is down to the very low power standby requirement of less than 0.5W, which is a EU requirement.

Sky boxes don't really ever go into sby. The kid you by turning the video and audio only off. As a result the sby power consumption is over 40 times larger than a EU compliant box.

The box goes into the near equivalent of a sky box sby, 15 minutes before a Accurate Recording is due. If you boot the box during this period or during actual recording it will boot up very quickly.

A rough estimate of the extra power used by a Sky box every year will cost well over £20.00 in extra electricity.
Thanks - that's interesting.

Personally I'm happy to pay £20 pa to have my tv come on seconds after turning it on, but that's just me I guess.
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Old 07-08-2015, 11:09
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Thanks - that's interesting.

Personally I'm happy to pay £20 pa to have my tv come on seconds after turning it on, but that's just me I guess.
The box has a power on and power off timer option. If you set a daily window you would normally use the box, and disable the auto power off option. It will be instantly available, and you will still be saving money.
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Old 09-08-2015, 15:01
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Hi there!

I'm supposed to receive mine next week. I will post my review on it.
I've just cancelled my Sky sub and this will be my first Freesat set top box.

Hope I will enjoy this new adventure
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Old 09-08-2015, 19:04
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Had a look at this in Curry's the other day, absolutely unbelievable how cheap and nasty looking it is, it really is Fisher Price. Everything about it spells cost cutting, the quality of the silver logo and buttons on top is embarrassing. The cheap plastic its made of and cheap connections on the back are just awful, and they expect people to pay £190 plus for this. I would be embarrassed to have this on show under my TV, i would have to hide it away. This was the white version, but i doubt the black version is any better.

I am going to look for the older HDR-1000S model, they were not that great looking or build quality either, but is miles ahead of the HDR-1100S.
Could not agree more after seeing the box in the flesh today. Humax have really gone downhill in my opinion. I own the YouView DTR-T2000 made by Humax,and it looks and feels quality,and warrents the purchase price,unlike the 1100S. Humax should act fast to save their reputation.
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Old 09-08-2015, 19:08
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Noticed they had the new model on the shelf in a PC World today - unfortunately it was the box, and no display model, so I couldn't see how "cheap" it is
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Old 09-08-2015, 22:01
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Could not agree more after seeing the box in the flesh today. Humax have really gone downhill in my opinion. I own the YouView DTR-T2000 made by Humax,and it looks and feels quality,and warrents the purchase price,unlike the 1100S. Humax should act fast to save their reputation.
I noticed that as well, Humax's freeiew/youview boxes look great and are nice quality as well. I took another look at the 1100RS the other day and it is every bit as bad as i remember it the first time i saw it, still haven't seen a black one yet, but they surely can't look as bad as the white version. I think Humax's freeview boxes are probably a lot better as there is a lot more competition in that sector.
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Old 11-08-2015, 16:31
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Just been reading about this and comparing to the 1010. Does the 1010 have a light for when it is recording? I see that the 1100 has a red light for recording and blue when on but has done away with the display, and the scart socket and is generally a smaller unit that the 1010. Is the interface exactly the same? I can't see how it's an improvement over the 1010 unless I'm missing something.
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Old 11-08-2015, 16:41
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Just been reading about this and comparing to the 1010. Does the 1010 have a light for when it is recording? I see that the 1100 has a red light for recording and blue when on but has done away with the display, and the scart socket and is generally a smaller unit that the 1010. Is the interface exactly the same? I can't see how it's an improvement over the 1010 unless I'm missing something.
Yes same interface (and same software). The 1010s has a very small icon on the front when recording in sby (it's very small and dim) and a digital clock display if you turn on power saving in sby. The 1100S comes in black or white. The HDR1000S is black and does not have built in WiFi (needs a separate dongle), the 1010S is white and has the WiFi built in.
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