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Does the 1010 have a light to indicate it is recording when it isn't in standby (i.e. is on)?
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Sorry for all the questions but if you had to buy either the 1010 or the 1100 which would it be?
Currently get more for your money with the 1010 as the 1TB harddrive edition costs a bit less than the new 1100 500GB version, but is it better to invest in the newer kit (not that it's much different!). Just after advice before I part with the money. |
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Sorry for all the questions but if you had to buy either the 1010 or the 1100 which would it be?
Currently get more for your money with the 1010 as the 1TB harddrive edition costs a bit less than the new 1100 500GB version, but is it better to invest in the newer kit (not that it's much different!). Just after advice before I part with the money. 1 Box is new so no record of hardware reliability. Some think the box looks cheap and poorly built. I haven't seen one so cannot really comment. 2 Not too many will have both so hard to compare. 3 How much do you want a display showing what the box is doing when you aren't actually watching it. Probably not an issue if you have just one pvr, more so if you have more than one. 4 How much recording content do you want to save. if you view and delete hard disk space may not be an option, if you like to save whole series (especially HD) and view one after the other then more so. 5 Is the loss of a RGB SD analogue output capability an issue. To anyone using a DVDR with RGB recording it could be an issue. 6 Lastly and possibly the game changer, which one does the better half fits your décor
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Food for thought there, thank you. Point 6 - for me it's all about substance over style. I don't care how something looks (within reason!) if it works beautifully.
Correct me if I'm wrong but the software/firmware (sorry i don't know the exact difference) is identical on the 1010 and 1100 isn't it? Unfortunately Humax haven't uploaded the software details to the 1100 product page and the user manual link points to the 1000 hdr model. |
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Food for thought there, thank you. Point 6 - for me it's all about substance over style. I don't care how something looks (within reason!) if it works beautifully.
Correct me if I'm wrong but the software/firmware (sorry i don't know the exact difference) is identical on the 1010 and 1100 isn't it? Unfortunately Humax haven't uploaded the software details to the 1100 product page and the user manual link points to the 1000 hdr model. This also implies that key components such as the PVR chipset are also identical. |
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Just an update - I bought the 1100 500GB in black at the weekend. Thanks for all the advice above. I'm sure I'll be back at some point for further guidance and likewise, if you want to ask me anything about it then I'll do my best to answer.
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Oh, and is there not a more detailed manual anywhere? For most settings other than the most basic, the user guide provided is somewhat lacking!
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I have no idea what is in the user guide you have, but is http://www.humaxdigital.com/uk/data/...00S_Manual.pdf any more descriptive?
It's for the old model of course but I'm assuming the on screen menus are basically the same. I guess the intention is really that it should be so easy to use, it doesn't need explanation |
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That's the same one that comes in the box moox - very user friendly but doesn't mention much beyond the obvious - notably the settings menus including non freesat mode don't get a mention at all.
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That's the same one that comes in the box moox - very user friendly but doesn't mention much beyond the obvious - notably the settings menus including non freesat mode don't get a mention at all.
If you have specific questions just ask. |
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In Settings > System Settings > Power Saving > Standby Mode - there are options for 'power save' and 'normal'. What are the differences between these?
The reason I ask is the default setting is power save, and for the first few days, after the box was put into standby, a few seconds later the fan would shut off. Then for some reason the fan continued to stay on when put in standby even though this default setting wasn't changed. Haven't measured how long but I think the longest I left it was half an hour and in that time the fan was still running, which leads me to think it will continue to run. I changed the setting above to 'normal' and then when put into standby the fan continues to run for about 2 minutes then turns off and the unit is silent. I then switched this setting back to 'power save' and again the fan continues to run when in standby. Very strange considering it didn't do this at the outset. Put setting to 'normal' and again, the fan switches off after a couple of mins of being in standby. It seems to suddenly be working backwards to what is expected. |
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In Settings > System Settings > Power Saving > Standby Mode - there are options for 'power save' and 'normal'. What are the differences between these?
The reason I ask is the default setting is power save, and for the first few days, after the box was put into standby, a few seconds later the fan would shut off. Then for some reason the fan continued to stay on when put in standby even though this default setting wasn't changed. Haven't measured how long but I think the longest I left it was half an hour and in that time the fan was still running, which leads me to think it will continue to run. I changed the setting above to 'normal' and then when put into standby the fan continues to run for about 2 minutes then turns off and the unit is silent. I've switched this setting back to 'power save' and again the fan continues to run. Very strange considering it didn't do this at the outset. Put setting to 'normal' and again, the fan switches off after a couple of mins of being in standby. It seems to suddenly be working backwards to what is expected. |
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I've deleted a few recording recently but only in the relevant option. None were scheduled to be deleted and nothing is planned to record. In other words, there was nothing to be processed so it's a bit of a mystery.
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I've deleted a few recording recently but only in the relevant option. None were scheduled to be deleted and nothing is planned to record. In other words, there was nothing to be processed so it's a bit of a mystery.
When you delete via the relevant option, and you get control of the box, the recording isn't actually deleted. Windows doesn't delete the actual data when you elect to delete a recording, it simply changes a few bytes in the data that records the location of the data. That's why you can easily undelete recordings in windows. Your box uses Linux which actually destroys the file which takes a relatively long time. If you delete a decent amount of data on your box, look at the remaining disk space a few times and you will see that it takes quite a while before the remaining disk space stabilises. If you put the box in sby during this period, the box will not go into sby until the deletions are processed. |
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Thanks Graham, what you're saying makes sense but doesn't explain the quirky nature of switching between power save and normal. Regardless of whether the box was still deleting or not, setting standby to 'normal' switched the fan off after a minute, and setting standby to 'power saving' left the fan running which is the opposite of what you'd expect.
And to be honest I don't think the unit was deleting anything. When the unit is on (i.e. recording) you can hear the constant 'seeking' noise of the hard drive, yet in standby with the fan running I could hear zero hard drive noise. |
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Thanks Graham, what you're saying makes sense but doesn't explain the quirky nature of switching between power save and normal. Regardless of whether the box was still deleting or not, setting standby to 'normal' switched the fan off after a minute, and setting standby to 'power saving' left the fan running which is the opposite of what you'd expect.
And to be honest I don't think the unit was deleting anything. When the unit is on (i.e. recording) you can hear the constant 'seeking' noise of the hard drive, yet in standby with the fan running I could hear zero hard drive noise. |
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I suspect the fan is just temperature controlled and the standby setting irrelevant.
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A well informed source (Barry at myhumax forum) has pointed out to me he believes that the HDR-1100S does not have a fan. Perhaps you were hearing the harddisk spin down which happens after some data is saved to disk. This time does appear to be a little variable.
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Doesn't have a fan? Is he sure about that? You can hear the 'seeking' (click click) of the HD constantly but there's a more 'whooshing' noise constantly when the unit is on. Surely it's a fan?
However I don't think anyone has had the lid off yet. |
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Out of interest which model(s) do you have Repassac?
The Manhattan HDR-S mentions that 'unlike most TV recorders the Plaza HDR-S is whisper quiet in operation due to its fanless design and use of the latest hard disk technology from Western Digital.' .... which would imply its rivals (i.e. Humax) do have fans. What other rivals are there? Goodmans and Sagecom are all I've ever seen. I'm still surprised that Humax are the only Freesat+ recorder to offer freetime, especially over wifi. How come more manufacturers aren't making such boxes? |
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I'm still surprised that Humax are the only Freesat+ recorder to offer freetime, especially over wifi. How come more manufacturers aren't making such boxes?
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Thanks for that Ian. I'm surprised there's not more development of free satellite services, purely from an aesthetic perspective, a small dish on the side of your house is less obtrusive than a great big aerial strapped to your roofline! Nevertheless Freeview seems to be going from strength to strength and a range of manufacturers make the boxes.
It'll be interesting to see what Manhattan's freetime freesat box turns out like. |
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Out of interest which model(s) do you have Repassac?
The Manhattan HDR-S mentions that 'unlike most TV recorders the Plaza HDR-S is whisper quiet in operation due to its fanless design and use of the latest hard disk technology from Western Digital.' .... which would imply its rivals (i.e. Humax) do have fans. What other rivals are there? Goodmans and Sagecom are all I've ever seen. I'm still surprised that Humax are the only Freesat+ recorder to offer freetime, especially over wifi. How come more manufacturers aren't making such boxes? Relace your unit, it is not typical. |
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If anyone's interested, I did indeed replace the unit with another 1100. The high pitched whine was only audible if you had your ear right up to the box so clearly my first unit had a loose part somewhere. Ahh the lovely new quiet box. Result. Or so I thought.
The hard drive on this new unit was amusingly bad. When it started recording you'd think Michael Flatley was in the box performing Riverdance, or a horse was going past at full gallop. In comparison, the hard drive on the first box was barely audible when recording. On a lesser note, one of the directional buttons on the remote control didn't make a sound whereas the others made the loud positive click that Humax are famous for. Not the end of the world, but it does highlight the inconsistencies with regards to build quality. Suffice to say this second box has gone back and I may delve into the alternatives (Manhattan or Goodmans!). |
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I saw one of the new models in John Lewis. It's average quality, not dreadful
I think the only noticeable exterior build quality issues are the tacky silver buttons on the top which someone needs their head feeling for building them that way. The logo on the top is just a transfer and will stratch off in time. Again, why would you do it that way? Rest of the device is fairly heavy and looks well assembled but I can't vouch for the interior build quality. Humax do seem to be going downhill with their design choices. |
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