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Results:Ziggy Roscoe: YAY or NAY?
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Hollyoaks E4 Daily Thread - Lomax & Loveday Litter - 24/07/15
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Marianne_321
24-07-2015
Originally Posted by Ownnnn:
“I kinda feel sorry for her. I know it was a ridiculous thing for her to do, but I don't want that nasty bitch Diane to win and get Rose.”

I think Diane will get Rose now, by doing what she did Tegan ensured it!!!
Multimedia81
24-07-2015
I have just seen ITV1 advertise visitsouthport.com which is topical, ironically!
Ænima
24-07-2015
Originally Posted by oilcat:
“Tegan is one of the worst actors on the show.....and that's saying something”

Yeah, she has no redeeming qualities at all!
Reo
24-07-2015
I really hope Diane doesn't now get Rose.. but thanks to Tegan (or should I say the writers) stupidly doing this, she has now given the worst mother in the world a chance to get both girls.

Unless Tegan isn't the GHK and they are planning on ruling her out, then Tegan wont be in jail for long.
winter99
24-07-2015
I don't know how Tegan can avoid prison but the sad thing is she probably will.
Bona drag
24-07-2015
Originally Posted by Marianne_321:
“

I don't actually believe in most of the love hook up's in the show. Characters say they love each other & after an argument, misunderstanding etc. end up in someone elses bed (usually the closest person at hand - whatever the gender). They also seem to get over a supposed 'great' love quickly.”

This is something I really hate about HO at the moment . How are we supposed to invest in and care about relationships when we know that it will only last about a week. One moment a character is declaring their undying love for one partner and then the next episode are chasing after someone else.
dubgaz
24-07-2015
No doubt Tegan and Scott will get off and avoid jail despite the fact they kidnapped a child. They will prob be a couple by next week.
Marianne_321
24-07-2015
Originally Posted by Ænima:
“Oh and Cleo and this old man is even less believable ”

Pete is a paedophile. I actually find his grooming of Cleo very chilling & believable.
blue_cheese
24-07-2015
I did feel sorry for Tegan when she was in the back of the police car crying but shouldn't of done what she did.
ChelseaEllie
24-07-2015
That episode was painful, I dont care enough for the lovedays to care about their pain, Tegan and Scott were too annoying and Ziggy was the best actor in the episode which is scarey
Ænima
24-07-2015
Originally Posted by Marianne_321:
“Pete is a paedophile. I actually find his grooming of Cleo very chilling & believable.”

Ah, I don't I don't think she'd be stupid enough or desperate enough to want any attention from a creepy older man, old enough to be her dad!

Edit: And isn't Cleo 17? Not a paedophile, just a bit immoral. The actress that plays her is about 22 I think, so if they're going for the pedo angle, it's not believable at all.
seventhwave
24-07-2015
People hate Diane and Leela yet a lot of the reason why they've become so bad recently is in order to make Tegan and Tegan/Ziggy look better ...
Marianne_321
24-07-2015
Originally Posted by Bona drag:
“This is something I really hate about HO at the moment . How are we supposed to invest in and care about relationships when we know that it will only last about a week. One moment a character is declaring their undying love for one partner and then the next episode are chasing after someone else.”

Exactly!!! I've learned not to expect too much in that regard & don't really ship couples much like I used to.
ChelseaEllie
24-07-2015
Originally Posted by Ænima:
“Ah, I don't I don't think she'd be stupid enough or desperate enough to want any attention from a creepy older man, old enough to be her dad!”

she looks horrified at him touching her, which I wasnt expecting for this story thought she would be keen on him
Multimedia81
24-07-2015
Originally Posted by seventhwave:
“People hate Diane and Leela yet a lot of the reason why they've become so bad recently is in order to make Tegan and Tegan/Ziggy look better ...”

I defend Leela here as she has not done the wrong thing over Rose.
ChelseaEllie
24-07-2015
Originally Posted by blue_cheese:
“I did feel sorry for Tegan when she was in the back of the police car crying but shouldn't of done what she did.”

The problem was she made a bad choice and panicked and didnt know how to get out of it
Marianne_321
24-07-2015
Originally Posted by Ænima:
“Ah, I don't I don't think she'd be stupid enough or desperate enough to want any attention from a creepy older man, old enough to be her dad!

Edit: And isn't Cleo 17? Not a paedophile, just a bit immoral. The actress that plays her is about 22 I think, so if they're going for the pedo angle, it's not believable at all.”

From what was said it started some time back before Cleo came to Hollyoaks & she was in boarding school for a while as well. She only just had her birthday so I think she was probably 14/15 when it started. She's not an adult in the eyes of the law until 18.

I think Kai is brilliant as Pete. He really does give me the creeps. I wish Cleo supported Porsche & I did feel angry when she didn't, but I think Cleo thinks she's partly to blame. She told herself that she did have some feelings for him. She obviously feels what she is doing is wrong, also somewhat confused & also feels trapped because she does not want her mum to fall off the wagon again.
Ænima
24-07-2015
Originally Posted by Marianne_321:
“From what was said it started some time back before Cleo came to Hollyoaks & she was in boarding school for a while as well. She only just had her birthday so I think she was probably 14/15 when it started. She's not an adult in the eyes of the law until 18.

I think Kai is brilliant as Pete. He really does give me the creeps. I wish Cleo supported Porsche & I did feel angry when she didn't, but I think Cleo thinks she's partly to blame. She told herself that she did have some feelings for him. She obviously feels what she is doing is wrong, also somewhat confused & also feels trapped because she does not want her mum to fall off the wagon again.”

Ah right, I think he overdoes the creepy a bit, it makes me laugh sometimes, but he's not the worst actor in Hollyoaks.
seventhwave
24-07-2015
Originally Posted by Multimedia81:
“I defend Leela here as she has not done the wrong thing over Rose.”

No, she hasn't. One argument (where Ziggy was just as much to blame as Leela) and he's trying to leave the country with Tegan because "Leela doesn't really love him"
Anna_W
24-07-2015
Originally Posted by seventhwave:
“The sad thing is that Rose would be better off in the hands of an exploited illegalworker who barely speaks English, than Scott. !”

Polish people are in this country legally. If someone employs them without qualification , vetting them properly, that's illegal , but fault is on employer's side , not employee.
seventhwave
24-07-2015
Originally Posted by Ænima:
“Edit: And isn't Cleo 17? Not a paedophile, just a bit immoral. The actress that plays her is about 22 I think, so if they're going for the pedo angle, it's not believable at all.”

She's 18 now I think, it was her birthday party a couple of days ago (& Nadine Mulkerrin has said in interviews that Cleo becoming a legal adult is now part of the storyline.) But Pete abused Porsche when she was 15, and it's almost certain that he began grooming Cleo (and possibly having sex with her) while she was still underage


Originally Posted by Anna_W:
“Polish people are in this country legally. If someone employs them without qualification , vetting them properly, that's illegal , but fault is on employer's side , not employee.”

Yes, you're quite right, I phrased that badly. I'm sorry. I meant to say I was thinking that if Tegan had actually left Rose with a Polish childminder, she'd have gone for one she knew to be illegally employed, just so they wouldn't try to go to the police. Still, I'm glad that Tango Man is the one that's going to get in trouble now, not an innocent person who had no idea Rose had been kidnapped ...
Neomysterio
24-07-2015
Thought the Loveday's were fabulous tonight - All of them that is.

Kai is just excellent as Pete... so creepy and just wrong.

The Rose stuff is so yawny.
Marianne_321
24-07-2015
Originally Posted by seventhwave:
“She's 18 now I think, it was her birthday party a couple of days ago (& Nadine Mulkerrin has said in interviews that Cleo becoming a legal adult is now part of the storyline.) But Pete abused Porsche when she was 15, and it's almost certain that he began grooming Cleo (and possibly having sex with her) while she was still underage”

Fair enough, I thought it was Cleo's 17th Birthday party!!

It sounds to me like the grooming did start when she was underage.
srhgts
24-07-2015
Originally Posted by seventhwave:
“Shut your whinging cheating immigrant-exploiting trap, Tegan. Prison is exactly where you belong

And just how does this genius think she's going to get away with smuggling a kidnapped child out of the country, no fake passports, nothing? She does realise the police can trace her abroad, doesn't she ... oh no, this is Tegan ...”

Hollyoaks

Originally Posted by Marianne_321:
“I'm not convinced she was the real Lisa. I think it is most probably a con.”

I think so too. I expect they'll go back and forth loads of times before it emerges she's not really Lisa.

Originally Posted by seventhwave:
“It just annoys me that other characters are condemned for making moves on a family member's partner, yet we're supposed to be on Tegan's side here and not see anything wrong in it (even to the point where she planned to walk into the church on Ziggy's wedding day and publicly announce that they were running away together.) It's the same with JP and Lockie, some are more equal than others etc.

Tegan will probably get away with it ultimately, but yeah, I wouldn't be surprised if the next stage is Diane finding out and using it to step up the custody battle ...”

Agree.

Originally Posted by vixyvic:
“"Dumbest idea since my Mum named my brother after a hotel chain!" Nice one Holls ”



Originally Posted by Ænima:
“Ah, I don't I don't think she'd be stupid enough or desperate enough to want any attention from a creepy older man, old enough to be her dad!

Edit: And isn't Cleo 17? Not a paedophile, just a bit immoral. The actress that plays her is about 22 I think, so if they're going for the pedo angle, it's not believable at all.”

It's not about her being desperate or "needing" to look to an older man for attention, it's about her being groomed and manipulated from a young age. Obviously if it was a normal situation it's unlikely she'd take an interest in someone like Pete.
He absolutely is a paedophile, it's been made clear he's been sleeping with Cleo on and off for years, and he abused Porsche at the age of 15.
They wouldn't show an actor or actress who really looked like a young child in those scenes, it'd be too disgusting, certainly for a show that goes out at half 6. It's very creepy and nauseating to watch Pete in those scenes with Cleo, who looks about 18/19 to me. If for example he were abusing Tom, who still looks about 12, I think a lot of people would complain/switch off.

Originally Posted by ChelseaEllie:
“she looks horrified at him touching her, which I wasnt expecting for this story thought she would be keen on him”

Agree. I think she was "into" it when it happened historically but it's now slowly dawning on her how bad it is and she doesn't know what to do, feels like it's her fault in some way, and is worried what would happen to her mum if she found out.


**** off Lomaxes, Hutchinsons, Lovedays.

LOL Leela and Ziggy in the garage. Utterly laughable all round, and great reasoning for ending a marriage and running off with your wife's sister…

Oh **** you Tegan, zero sympathy. Although ugh, the execrable Diane will get all the kids now…

I seem to be in a minority but I don't rate Louis as an actor at all, I thought he was laughable tonight.
Skyfall
24-07-2015
BK making Tegan a part of this kidnapping has made sure Diane will get her hands on baby Rose and maybe full custody only only just Rose but Tegan's real daughter Dee Dee as well.
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