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ED - Is Robert Leaving Emmerdale
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samcains90
25-07-2015
Originally Posted by Crooked Heart:
“Oh dear, didn't he cry enough for you Sam? Maybe if he smudged a load of menthol tear stick under his eyes like Danny Miller does he would have cried you a river but he obviously prefers not to use it. I'm glad he doesn't.”

No, he didn't. I was not at all convinced by his attempts to emote. A tear stick would not have helped him.


Originally Posted by Oldnjaded:
“Good post. Yes, it's been a decent and watchable sl, but EvilNuRobert clearly always had a limited shelf life and I'd be disappointed if he didn't get his comeuppance before too much longer.”

Thanks, I hope his comeuppance may be soon though not as soon as the Summer disaster.

Originally Posted by abrightyz:
“i think ED is not at all unhappy having twitter fans adding more awareness for the show”

I'm sure they are but that doesn't mean they can hang onto this roundabout story of will Aaron & Robert live happily ever after forever.
It's also temporary, all the Robert fans will stop watching as soon as he and Aaron are over for good or he leaves. I'm sure they are well aware that the twitter fanbase is so fickle as well. Good publicity for the disaster though.
Crooked Heart
25-07-2015
Originally Posted by abrightyz:
“aaron has been there... surely ED won't make every other male gay/bi/no-label character suicidal??”

I think Rob would rather take someone else's life before taking his own Although when the Katie thing comes out maybe they'll go down that path then.
cyrilandshirley
25-07-2015
Originally Posted by purple bunny:
“Haven't you watched the trailer? I reckon he hangs himself in the woods. That's what the camera angle is all about. & I've not watched ed for ages.”

I don't bother much with trailers, but really? If that happens, what's the betting Aaron will rush up and cut him down because hey, he's been there, and they're soul mates, so they can begin their great love.

Sorry, I just made myself throw up a bit.
Crooked Heart
25-07-2015
Originally Posted by samcains90:
“No, he didn't. I was not at all convinced by his attempts to emote. A tear stick would not have helped him.”

Of course it would. He would have had a never ending stream of tears running down his cheeks in no time and everybody would be saying "gosh, he's so good at crying!", blah blah blah...
abrightyz
25-07-2015
Originally Posted by Crooked Heart:
“I think Rob would rather take someone else's life before taking his own Although when the Katie thing comes out maybe they'll go down that path then.”

correct.. rob's aggression is directed outwards as opposed to aaron's self-harming tendency.. it would be OOC for rob to consider suicide.. if his throat ends up in a noose someone else would have to put it there
abrightyz
25-07-2015
Originally Posted by cyrilandshirley:
“I don't bother much with trailers, but really? If that happens, what's the betting Aaron will rush up and cut him down because hey, he's been there, and they're soul mates, so they can begin their great love.

Sorry, I just made myself throw up a bit.”

where do i send cyclizine?
Crooked Heart
25-07-2015
Originally Posted by cyrilandshirley:
“I don't bother much with trailers, but really? If that happens, what's the betting ★★Aaron will rush up and cut him down★★ because hey, he's been there, and they're soul mates, so they can begin their great love.

Sorry, I just made myself throw up a bit.”

★★...★★: And then Rob would drown in a flood of tears no doubt.

Is this supposed to be the funfair trailer? Why would anyone think he would hang himself from that? Or is this something new?
Crooked Heart
25-07-2015
Originally Posted by abrightyz:
“where do i send cyclizine?”

Could you send Paddy some? He looked a bit queasy the other night! Lol
desperate house
25-07-2015
Originally Posted by Face Of Jack:
“I think Ryan Hawley has done a brilliant job of bringing back Robert Sugden!
Evil, bad, good,loving or gay - he has been wonderful! Bad guys live on in Emmerdale - look at Ross and Cain! There's always room for one more! (maybe Jai too!)
See what the 'Summer FATE' brings eh?”

True

BIB Jai is not villain, he is an obnoxious ar*e, he could'nt play a villain if his life depended on it. Carp actor all round.

Robert, on the other hand CAN act, except for his crying which he is duff at. But his smarmy, snidey, plotting underhand schemes are spot on. I just wish they hadn't paired him with that big girl's blouse Aaron. I can't see why they have to kill him off, Carl, and Cain were/are in the show for years after all the things they did. Eric was no angel either. They can always find a way round these things if they want to!
spunger
25-07-2015
Originally Posted by cyrilandshirley:
“He has worked before Emmerdale you know! And he'll work after. I've never said he's the best actor in the world - you can see he's learning as he goes along, and not everything comes off. I thought he was really stiff when he first arrived! But he has got better and given us some very watchable scenes. I find them watchable, anyway. Just as long as they don't involve Aaron doing his crying thing.”

Please don't get me wrong. I can 100% understand why he has a following and why pwople enjoy watching him. He's a proper panto soap villian. i sat panto because compated to someone like Silas in HO thats what he is and the difference in the quality of acting between those two is pretty huge. Ryan's portrayal of Robert is like a Val. Ok at the enjoyable big panto stuff but when required to tone it down and do some proper acting they fall short. He failed at the very basics of acting last week so god knows how anyone can say he's a good actor never mind amazing and brilliant.
It would be better if people just kept it to saying they love watching the character. Therw would be no arguments about that
cyrilandshirley
25-07-2015
Originally Posted by desperate house:
“True

BIB Jai is not villain, he is an obnoxious ar*e, he could'nt play a villain if his life depended on it. Carp actor all round.

Robert, on the other hand CAN act, except for his crying which he is duff at. But his smarmy, snidey, plotting underhand schemes are spot on. I just wish they hadn't paired him with that big girl's blouse Aaron. I can't see why they have to kill him off, Carl, and Cain were/are in the show for years after all the things they did. Eric was no angel either. They can always find a way round these things if they want to!”

I love the idea that Robert is the new Eric. He can still be scheming when his hair is white.
cyrilandshirley
25-07-2015
Originally Posted by spunger:
“Please don't get me wrong. I can 100% understand why he has a following and why pwople enjoy watching him. He's a proper panto soap villian. i sat panto because compated to someone like Silas in HO thats what he is and the difference in the quality of acting between those two is pretty huge. Ryan's portrayal of Robert is like a Val. Ok at the enjoyable big panto stuff but when required to tone it down and do some proper acting they fall short. He failed at the very basics of acting last week so god knows how anyone can say he's a good actor never mind amazing and brilliant.
It would be better if people just kept it to saying they love watching the character. Therw would be no arguments about that”

You said you liked his scene with Andy though. I agree, I thought that was good. In fact I really liked it.
Face Of Jack
25-07-2015
Robert will find peace somehow. Saint Diane will take him in, and maybe he will find solace - via Victoria - with lovely Finn?? Who knows?! It's time we had a happily settled gay couple in the village! Maybe not eh? But it's a nice thought!
samcains90
25-07-2015
Originally Posted by Face Of Jack:
“Robert will find peace somehow. Saint Diane will take him in, and maybe he will find solace - via Victoria - with lovely Finn?? Who knows?! It's time we had a happily settled gay couple in the village! Maybe not eh? But it's a nice thought!”

You would inflict Robert on lovely Finn?!
ME1234567
25-07-2015
Originally Posted by samcains90:
“You would inflict Robert on lovely Finn?! ”

lol
Face Of Jack
25-07-2015
I'm sure lovely Finn would like a blond dominant man in his life!
ME1234567
25-07-2015
Originally Posted by Face Of Jack:
“I'm sure lovely Finn would like a blond dominant man in his life!”

Yeah but Robert would eat him alive
samcains90
25-07-2015
Originally Posted by Face Of Jack:
“I'm sure lovely Finn would like a blond dominant man in his life!”

I think dominant is a bit of an understatement. He would have to worry about being killed every time he did something Robert didn't like!
sheepiefarm
25-07-2015
I think Robert will be around for a while yet.

After watching thursday's episode, I think it's an almost certainty now, that when Andy finds out about what really happened to Katie, it will be Aaron who tells him.
And it won't be done out of duty or a sense of "doing the right thing", it'll be done out of spite, an act of revenge against Robert because, once again, Robert will have turned out to be "not the man Aaron thinks he is".

So - given where Robron are narratively right now - we still have the whole rebuilding of the Robron relationship to get through first.
Hershal_Greene
25-07-2015
I was just talking to my relative about this.

I reckon so, especially due to the fact that Robert Sugden killed Katie Sugden. Also we all know the powers that be would get rid of Robert before they would dream of getting rid of Aaron Livesy.

It's a shame to me because I don't see the Sugdens lasting (bloodline ones at the very least) another 10 years. Producers never seem interested in Emmerdales original family.

Oh edit! My first post!
RadicalNature
25-07-2015
If Robert is killed off it'll be a huge anti-climax for me. He's so watchable. Ryan is a great actor. Please keep him!
RadicalNature
25-07-2015
Originally Posted by sheepiefarm:
“I think Robert will be around for a while yet.

After watching thursday's episode, I think it's an almost certainty now, that when Andy finds out about what really happened to Katie, it will be Aaron who tells him.
And it won't be done out of duty or a sense of "doing the right thing", it'll be done out of spite, an act of revenge against Robert because, once again, Robert will have turned out to be "not the man Aaron thinks he is".

So - given where Robron are narratively right now - we still have the whole rebuilding of the Robron relationship to get through first.”

Ahh yeah. Robert messes things up for Cain & Moira - Aaron hits back with the only thing he has left. I think as hated as he is, he'll end up critical at least!
Glendarroch
25-07-2015
Originally Posted by Hershal_Greene:
“I was just talking to my relative about this.

I reckon so, especially due to the fact that Robert Sugden killed Katie Sugden. Also we all know the powers that be would get rid of Robert before they would dream of getting rid of Aaron Livesy.

It's a shame to me because I don't see the Sugdens lasting (bloodline ones at the very least) another 10 years. Producers never seem interested in Emmerdales original family.

Oh edit! My first post!”

Hello I agree I doubt they'll get rid of Aaron.

I'm not big on the whole 'commemorating the Sugdens stuff, but it is a shame that the son of the lovely Jack has been taken down this route. He could have been a bad un without being a psychopath.
Hershal_Greene
25-07-2015
Originally Posted by Glendarroch:
“Hello I agree I doubt they'll get rid of Aaron.

I'm not big on the whole 'commemorating the Sugdens stuff, but it is a shame that the son of the lovely Jack has been taken down this route. He could have been a bad un without being a psychopath.”

The only part I don't like is the murder apart UNLESS they go down the Carl King route. When Ryan Hawley decides to leave it should come out then (not that the likes of former producer and current Coronation Streer producer Stuart Blackburn can grasp that idea.)
abrightyz
25-07-2015
Originally Posted by ME1234567:
“Yeah but Robert would eat him alive”

aaron never complained about that... and vice versa
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