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After ladt weeks efforts anyone who thinks Ryan Hawley will be getting better offers than being in a soap cannot know much about acting. In those dreadful hammy scenes with Aaron and Paddy he completely failed to deliver what he was supposed to be conveying.
He'd be laughed out of town acting as woodenly as that if he was put alongside half decent actors in a proper drama. At this moment in time no producer for a quality drama would touch him with a barge pole. People really do think being a popular and watchable soap character means they are good actors even when it is shown they are clearly not good actors. When required to stop playing the panto villian and deliver some proper sensitive emotion he failed to step up to the plate. |
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Yeah but Robert would eat him alive
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That may be so but I still don't understand why soap-lea thinks they will both need pairing up.
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Haven't you watched the trailer? I reckon he hangs himself in the woods. That's what the camera angle is all about. & I've not watched ed for ages.
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Exactly, I know lots of people who are happy to live on their own, and why not?
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Ryan is a great actor. !
![]() ![]() ![]() Great actors are in demand and are the ones who are able to sit at home and wait for the scripts from the best producers and directors to be posted through their letterbox. Martin Scorcesse won't be contacting Ryan anytime soon. |
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You said you liked his scene with Andy though. I agree, I thought that was good. In fact I really liked it.
but that was mainly down to the dialogue and Kelvin Fletcher who was much the better more powerful of the two and Kelvin is not rated as one of the better soap actors.
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Robert is a pantomime villain. He is selfish, and a bully, with the biggest chip on his shoulder and a snivelling wimp when he gets caught. Ryan Hawley is doing a very good job of it.
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![]() ![]() ![]() Great actors are in demand and are the ones who are able to sit at home and wait for the scripts from the best producers and directors to be posted through their letterbox. Martin Scorcesse won't be contacting Ryan anytime soon. Yes, Ryan wasn't at his best this week IMO but overall he's done pretty well as Robert. No need to completely rubbish him. Although I have to say I'm not a huge fan of gangster movies so I guess I'll never know whether he reaches that hallowed ground
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I agree in principle, as Im one but in my experience outside of large towns and cities, singletons over say 25 are not that common.
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Oh come come Spunger, elven De Niro's put in a few duff performances at times.
Yes, Ryan wasn't at his best this week IMO but overall he's done pretty well as Robert. No need to completely rubbish him. Although I have to say I'm not a huge fan of gangster movies so I guess I'll never know whether he reaches that hallowed ground ![]() If we all accepted soaps for what they are and the acting in soaps for what it is then I would have no argument with anyone but for so long as I keep seeing rudiculous OTT comments about how brilliant these soap ctors are, then I will continue to rubbish those claims. Many do a decent job under quite difficult conditions but that is as far as we should go with the praise.I still maintain Ryan Hawley woule struggle away from soaps with his current level of acting. He is sorely lacking in some of the basics. |
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Although I have to say I'm not a huge fan of gangster movies so I guess I'll never know whether he reaches that hallowed ground ![]() Rupert Pubkin in The King Of Comedy and Jake LaMotta in Raging Bull. Two wildly different roles that showed just how great he once was. |
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Id be so upset if he's killed off. It would seem strange if they did that. I mean they went through the trouble of replacing the actor with somebody else, turn the character gay. Make him an accidental killer. All that just to kill him off when the characters only been back in it less than a year. They shouldn't of bothered to have brought him back at all if their just killing him off. Seems pointless.
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He will get way with his crimes and worm is way back into favour. He will then start all over again.
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I did enjoy that scene
but that was mainly down to the dialogue and Kelvin Fletcher who was much the better more powerful of the two and Kelvin is not rated as one of the better soap actors.Like I've said, I don't expect Ryan to be the most experienced actor, specially not in soap where they have to produce performances without rehearsal. But I do think when he bounces off someone else really well, he's very watchable. I'm a much less severe critic of the actors than you though. On a soap, I just need to be convinced that there's a reality to that character. Kelvin can do that - he is Andy. And I think Ryan's getting there as well - he is Robert now, when I watch him. |
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I think Kelvin gets a bit overlooked. His performances after Katie's death were really moving I thought. But yes, I think Ryan and Kelvin work really well together.
Like I've said, I don't expect Ryan to be the most experienced actor, specially not in soap where they have to produce performances without rehearsal. But I do think when he bounces off someone else really well, he's very watchable. I'm a much less severe critic of the actors than you though. On a soap, I just need to be convinced that there's a reality to that character. Kelvin can do that - he is Andy. And I think Ryan's getting there as well - he is Robert now, when I watch him. |
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![]() ![]() ![]() Great actors are in demand and are the ones who are able to sit at home and wait for the scripts from the best producers and directors to be posted through their letterbox. Martin Scorcesse won't be contacting Ryan anytime soon.
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I agree. Ryan seems a better actor when he does a scene with Kelvin. I don't think he's that good when he does a scene with Danny. I don't know why. Maybe Danny over shines him a bit. He's a very good actor, I think. But Ryan and Kelvin are more on parr with each other, acting wise.
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I agree. Ryan seems a better actor when he does a scene with Kelvin. I don't think he's that good when he does a scene with Danny. I don't know why. Maybe Danny over shines him a bit. He's a very good actor, I think. But Ryan and Kelvin are more on parr with each other, acting wise.
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I'm not a great admirer of Danny Miller actually. I just think Andy and Robert have a more natural connection than Robert and Aaron, which always feels forced to me. But it might be the scripts as well - some of the Robert/Aaron stuff is such melodramatic hogwash, all waving guns around and declarations of lurve, there's not much he can do with that really. Whereas the scenes with Andy are more low-key and seem more heartfelt. To me, anyway.
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I fully agree with you on this.
![]() ![]() ![]() Still think you're being unfair comparing Ryan to Robert de Niro though. Talk about setting the bar high!
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Id be so upset if he's killed off. It would seem strange if they did that. I mean they went through the trouble of replacing the actor with somebody else, turn the character gay. Make him an accidental killer. All that just to kill him off when the characters only been back in it less than a year. They shouldn't of bothered to have brought him back at all if their just killing him off. Seems pointless.
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I agree in principle, as Im one but in my experience outside of large towns and cities, singletons over say 25 are not that common.
My mum always told me variety was the spice of life and she wasn't lying
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