One Plus 2

Denco1 · 28-07-2015, 12:06

I can't believe they removed NFC and instead designed a phone that changes the theme when you swap a cover, that's what the two pins are for. If you are the type of person to customise your phone in the first place I'm sure you could managed to change a theme manually, poor decision OnePlus.

Charge times of 3 hours 20 minutes are also poor by today's standards regardless of how large the battery is, if they implemented quick charge 2.0 it would only have taken around 90 minutes but I guess they wanted to avoid heat so people didn't talk about it overbearing.

Zebb · 28-07-2015, 12:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by Synthetic42

Apparently no one was using it...

I've had NFC on my Nokia C7 since 2010 and never used it either. OP2 seems a bit 'meh' to me.

slick1two · 28-07-2015, 12:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by jonmorris

Personally I prefer CPCs but I can see how the benefits of Apple Pay for larger transactions, with the better tracking of payments, could be convenient.

I can see myself using a normal card for buying a coffee or for travel, but if I'm buying something big then it's no real harm using a phone (certainly no time pressures as with using a phone to tap in and out on the tube with hundreds of commuters behind you cursing).

Thus, having had NFC phones for so long it seems strangely odd to lose it just as it might finally have a real purpose.

But, you can of course live without it.

Yep it is odd, I mean how costly would it have been to implement? Doesn't it go against their ethos somewhat? They are calling the phone 2016 flagship killer. Ironically, that could be the year where mobile payments actually really begin to happen, therefore, could Oneplus have possibly missed a trick? Not sure.

Perhaps they can and will reassess the situation to see if people are now actually starting to use mobile payments, so if there is some kind of upsurge, I'm sure they can implement NFC on the next model, so I don't think it's that big a deal, since it's only really starting to take off, and contactless readers aren't everywhere yet, so if it booms, they can just slap it back on, since they got a window to see how mobile payment use is growing.

jonmorris · 28-07-2015, 13:11

Living near London, most places take contactless and I think by September all merchants are supposed to be accepting it so the likes of John Lewis should switch on their already compatible terminals.

2016 does look like the year NFC takes off. Especially as more rail operators are introducing contactless payments for travel, so there's no reason you couldn't load train tickets on your phone soon.

clewsy · 28-07-2015, 13:17

Well its a real positive that it's less than expected as that makes it a real bargain.

Not so worried about the lack of NF technology as not really sure how secure it all is. Android as well is probably a bit too open of platform to trust that sort of technology.

The real concern is the SD chip, it doesnt sound that convincing.

bikerlad · 28-07-2015, 19:56

If Android Pay does ever launch in the UK, then I would like a phone with NFC, but I'll still be hoping for an invite so I can try the phone out. Hopefully Madhi will come up with a great ROM for it too.

Aye Up · 28-07-2015, 20:20

Just as I'm having a barney wih Vodafone this looks like a tempting alternative....

Now excuse my stupidity I noticed someone posted about the LTE banding, short end does it work on UK LTE?

EDIT: As I know sod all about the numbers, bands wise I get 800/1800/2600 and so on.

Denco1 · 28-07-2015, 20:25

It works on all UK LTE, well apart from when the next auctions happen next year but they won't be rolled out for quite a while.

Gigabit · 28-07-2015, 20:26

Works on all UK LTE networks, yes.

Aye Up · 28-07-2015, 20:40

Quote:

Originally Posted by Denco1

It works on all UK LTE, well apart from when the next auctions happen next year but they won't be rolled out for quite a while.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gigabit

Works on all UK LTE networks, yes.

Thank you!

If anyone has an invite spare or can provide one, can I get one from you?

TIA

clewsy · 28-07-2015, 21:57

Click on that link I posted and then sign up.

Aye Up · 28-07-2015, 22:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by clewsy

Click on that link I posted and then sign up.

Maybe I'm being stupid but where do I register on that page, the only thing I can see is a referral link to be put on facebook or twitter?

clewsy · 28-07-2015, 22:12

There should be a box at the bottom to join the list for an invite. Have they changed it already?

AxeVictim · 28-07-2015, 22:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aye Up

Maybe I'm being stupid but where do I register on that page, the only thing I can see is a referral link to be put on facebook or twitter?

Scroll down to the bottom of the page and enter your email address.
You will then get a confirmation email which you click on to confirm.

https://oneplus.net/invites?kid=6GC39

d123 · 28-07-2015, 22:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aye Up

Maybe I'm being stupid but where do I register on that page, the only thing I can see is a referral link to be put on facebook or twitter?

Direct link to the page minus any affiliate links.

https://oneplus.net/uk/invites

Scroll down towards the bottom and there is a big box to register.

http://s19.postimg.org/oygwy42mr/image.jpg

Denco1 · 28-07-2015, 22:47

To think this is only the reservation list and not even the invite list, some people are going to have a long wait.
OnePlus have nailed it once more, these links are all over forums and I don't even think you will climb much higher with the number of links around.

clewsy · 28-07-2015, 23:04

Quote:

Originally Posted by Denco1

To think this is only the reservation list and not even the invite list, some people are going to have a long wait.
OnePlus have nailed it once more, these links are all over forums and I don't even think you will climb much higher with the number of links around.

No I know, that's why I'm hoping someone who will have an invite to share will think of me. Lol

Your right though that were going to be waiting months.

gds1972 · 28-07-2015, 23:12

After reading jonmorris comments about the snapdragon processor on his Web site I think I will looking closely at the Motorola phones when I change in a couple of months .

Gigabit · 28-07-2015, 23:49

SD808 is fine; SD810 is the problem (which Motorola aren't using).

planetf1 · 04-08-2015, 08:40

Frustratingly Android Pay isn't up and running yet, but there's no way I'd now buy a phone without NFC. .. tbh android are faffing about too much. erratic battery life, slow manufacturer/telco updates, late to nfc rollout.. (services not sw). Could be apple next - something I thought I'd never say.

jonmorris · 04-08-2015, 12:41

I am not sure what the final thing is that needs to happen to get Google Pay (or Samsung Pay) to work, but I feel that we might now have a chance.

Why? Because, as is often the case, Apple may be late to the party but it's got the public aware of mobile payments as being a thing. Now we see banks advertising Apple Pay, and stickers in McDonald's (and people actually using it) because it's not geeky if Apple does it, it's the future.

Surely now Google can get momentum, especially as the banks must be liking the whole idea. The only people probably hating it are TfL, or more specifically London Underground.

But, anyway, NFC is now a must. It's sad Motorola didn't put NFC on the new Moto G, while the rather impressive Vodafone Smart Ultra 6 (at £130 phone, or less) does.

AxeVictim · 04-08-2015, 15:33

Oneplus might be releasing a 2nd phone before Xmas.
http://www.theverge.com/2015/8/4/909...new-phone-2015

clewsy · 04-08-2015, 15:43

So that's that NF chip then included then in the new phone.

jonmorris · 04-08-2015, 16:15

I wonder what the real reason is for leaving NFC out? Seems like they know it was a bit silly.

WelshBluebird · 04-08-2015, 16:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by jonmorris

I wonder what the real reason is for leaving NFC out? Seems like they know it was a bit silly.

Especially considering how cheap it must be to add by now!
I realise cheaper flagship competitors like this must be on tighter profit margins per device than the likes of Samsing and Apple, but surely the addition of NFC wouldn't break the bank?

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28-07-2015, 12:06	#26
Denco1 Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2015 Posts: 983	I can't believe they removed NFC and instead designed a phone that changes the theme when you swap a cover, that's what the two pins are for. If you are the type of person to customise your phone in the first place I'm sure you could managed to change a theme manually, poor decision OnePlus. Charge times of 3 hours 20 minutes are also poor by today's standards regardless of how large the battery is, if they implemented quick charge 2.0 it would only have taken around 90 minutes but I guess they wanted to avoid heat so people didn't talk about it overbearing.

28-07-2015, 12:06	#27
Zebb Forum Member Join Date: Apr 2014 Posts: 652	Quote: Originally Posted by Synthetic42 Apparently no one was using it... I've had NFC on my Nokia C7 since 2010 and never used it either. OP2 seems a bit 'meh' to me.

28-07-2015, 12:30	#28
slick1two Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 2,796	Quote: Originally Posted by jonmorris Personally I prefer CPCs but I can see how the benefits of Apple Pay for larger transactions, with the better tracking of payments, could be convenient. I can see myself using a normal card for buying a coffee or for travel, but if I'm buying something big then it's no real harm using a phone (certainly no time pressures as with using a phone to tap in and out on the tube with hundreds of commuters behind you cursing). Thus, having had NFC phones for so long it seems strangely odd to lose it just as it might finally have a real purpose. But, you can of course live without it. Yep it is odd, I mean how costly would it have been to implement? Doesn't it go against their ethos somewhat? They are calling the phone 2016 flagship killer. Ironically, that could be the year where mobile payments actually really begin to happen, therefore, could Oneplus have possibly missed a trick? Not sure. Perhaps they can and will reassess the situation to see if people are now actually starting to use mobile payments, so if there is some kind of upsurge, I'm sure they can implement NFC on the next model, so I don't think it's that big a deal, since it's only really starting to take off, and contactless readers aren't everywhere yet, so if it booms, they can just slap it back on, since they got a window to see how mobile payment use is growing.

28-07-2015, 13:11	#29
jonmorris Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: a land filled with trolls Posts: 12,018	Living near London, most places take contactless and I think by September all merchants are supposed to be accepting it so the likes of John Lewis should switch on their already compatible terminals. 2016 does look like the year NFC takes off. Especially as more rail operators are introducing contactless payments for travel, so there's no reason you couldn't load train tickets on your phone soon.

28-07-2015, 13:17	#30
clewsy Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Midlands Posts: 2,860	Well its a real positive that it's less than expected as that makes it a real bargain. Not so worried about the lack of NF technology as not really sure how secure it all is. Android as well is probably a bit too open of platform to trust that sort of technology. The real concern is the SD chip, it doesnt sound that convincing.

28-07-2015, 19:56	#31
bikerlad Forum Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: London Posts: 391	If Android Pay does ever launch in the UK, then I would like a phone with NFC, but I'll still be hoping for an invite so I can try the phone out. Hopefully Madhi will come up with a great ROM for it too.

28-07-2015, 20:20	#32
Aye Up Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: North West Posts: 4,885	Just as I'm having a barney wih Vodafone this looks like a tempting alternative.... Now excuse my stupidity I noticed someone posted about the LTE banding, short end does it work on UK LTE? EDIT: As I know sod all about the numbers, bands wise I get 800/1800/2600 and so on.

28-07-2015, 20:25	#33
Denco1 Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2015 Posts: 983	It works on all UK LTE, well apart from when the next auctions happen next year but they won't be rolled out for quite a while.

28-07-2015, 20:26	#34
Gigabit Forum Member Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 2,887	Works on all UK LTE networks, yes.

28-07-2015, 20:40	#35
Aye Up Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: North West Posts: 4,885	Quote: Originally Posted by Denco1 It works on all UK LTE, well apart from when the next auctions happen next year but they won't be rolled out for quite a while. Quote: Originally Posted by Gigabit Works on all UK LTE networks, yes. Thank you! If anyone has an invite spare or can provide one, can I get one from you? TIA

28-07-2015, 21:57	#36
clewsy Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Midlands Posts: 2,860	Click on that link I posted and then sign up.

28-07-2015, 22:01	#37
Aye Up Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: North West Posts: 4,885	Quote: Originally Posted by clewsy Click on that link I posted and then sign up. Maybe I'm being stupid but where do I register on that page, the only thing I can see is a referral link to be put on facebook or twitter?

28-07-2015, 22:12	#38
clewsy Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Midlands Posts: 2,860	There should be a box at the bottom to join the list for an invite. Have they changed it already?

28-07-2015, 22:32	#39
AxeVictim Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 2,644	Quote: Originally Posted by Aye Up Maybe I'm being stupid but where do I register on that page, the only thing I can see is a referral link to be put on facebook or twitter? Scroll down to the bottom of the page and enter your email address. You will then get a confirmation email which you click on to confirm. https://oneplus.net/invites?kid=6GC39

28-07-2015, 22:34	#40
d123 Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 3,993	Quote: Originally Posted by Aye Up Maybe I'm being stupid but where do I register on that page, the only thing I can see is a referral link to be put on facebook or twitter? Direct link to the page minus any affiliate links. https://oneplus.net/uk/invites Scroll down towards the bottom and there is a big box to register. http://s19.postimg.org/oygwy42mr/image.jpg

28-07-2015, 22:47	#41
Denco1 Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2015 Posts: 983	To think this is only the reservation list and not even the invite list, some people are going to have a long wait. OnePlus have nailed it once more, these links are all over forums and I don't even think you will climb much higher with the number of links around.

28-07-2015, 23:04	#42
clewsy Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Midlands Posts: 2,860	Quote: Originally Posted by Denco1 To think this is only the reservation list and not even the invite list, some people are going to have a long wait. OnePlus have nailed it once more, these links are all over forums and I don't even think you will climb much higher with the number of links around. No I know, that's why I'm hoping someone who will have an invite to share will think of me. Lol Your right though that were going to be waiting months.

28-07-2015, 23:12	#43
gds1972 Forum Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 5,515	After reading jonmorris comments about the snapdragon processor on his Web site I think I will looking closely at the Motorola phones when I change in a couple of months .

28-07-2015, 23:49	#44
Gigabit Forum Member Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 2,887	SD808 is fine; SD810 is the problem (which Motorola aren't using).

04-08-2015, 08:40	#45
planetf1 Forum Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Hampshire Posts: 521	Frustratingly Android Pay isn't up and running yet, but there's no way I'd now buy a phone without NFC. .. tbh android are faffing about too much. erratic battery life, slow manufacturer/telco updates, late to nfc rollout.. (services not sw). Could be apple next - something I thought I'd never say.

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04-08-2015, 12:41	#46
jonmorris Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: a land filled with trolls Posts: 12,018	I am not sure what the final thing is that needs to happen to get Google Pay (or Samsung Pay) to work, but I feel that we might now have a chance. Why? Because, as is often the case, Apple may be late to the party but it's got the public aware of mobile payments as being a thing. Now we see banks advertising Apple Pay, and stickers in McDonald's (and people actually using it) because it's not geeky if Apple does it, it's the future. Surely now Google can get momentum, especially as the banks must be liking the whole idea. The only people probably hating it are TfL, or more specifically London Underground. But, anyway, NFC is now a must. It's sad Motorola didn't put NFC on the new Moto G, while the rather impressive Vodafone Smart Ultra 6 (at £130 phone, or less) does.

04-08-2015, 15:33	#47
AxeVictim Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 2,644	Oneplus might be releasing a 2nd phone before Xmas. http://www.theverge.com/2015/8/4/909...new-phone-2015

04-08-2015, 15:43	#48
clewsy Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Midlands Posts: 2,860	So that's that NF chip then included then in the new phone.

04-08-2015, 16:15	#49
jonmorris Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: a land filled with trolls Posts: 12,018	I wonder what the real reason is for leaving NFC out? Seems like they know it was a bit silly.

04-08-2015, 16:22	#50
WelshBluebird Forum Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 720	Quote: Originally Posted by jonmorris I wonder what the real reason is for leaving NFC out? Seems like they know it was a bit silly. Especially considering how cheap it must be to add by now! I realise cheaper flagship competitors like this must be on tighter profit margins per device than the likes of Samsing and Apple, but surely the addition of NFC wouldn't break the bank?