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Old 27-07-2015, 00:09
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Phil sucks btw. He is a weak, pathetic old man with a dodgy ticker (any follow up on that?)

even that pugface Derek was harder than him

DTC, if you wanna redeem yourself for all that Carter bs last year, then just have Phil die or something.... He is sour milk in the Walford cereal bowl
Excellent post.

Such predictable b*llocks, but unsurprising, seeing as Phil must always get the upper hand. "yawns and rolls eyes".
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Old 27-07-2015, 00:38
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As soon as I saw the picture of Phil punching Vincent to the ground, I immediately went "Ugh!"

He just had get the glory back. King Philith reigns again.
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Old 27-07-2015, 01:36
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Absolutely pathetic.

TBTB make me sick.

The total invincibility of the Philth is the biggest joke in soap - a short, fat, middle-aged man with a heart condition eternally beating up bigger, harder, younger and more muscular men.

Remember Conner in the Arches?

Pure farce.

This is why there can never be any decent male villains in Walford anymore.

Because no matter how hard or ruthless they may be just one look from Mitchell as he slowly gasps and wheezes towards them and they immediately collapse into a puddle of terrified yellow jelly.

Preposterous, predictable and utterly dull.

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Old 27-07-2015, 02:22
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Not quite... Remember Ian had to rescue Phil from Bobby.
Ha ha ha!! This has to be post of the week! So funny. When Bobby takes over the Square as a young man I hope he will finally stop Phil hobbling around owning fit young 20 - 30 something muscular men from behind his zimmer frame....
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Old 27-07-2015, 02:24
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Not quite... Remember Ian had to rescue Phil from Bobby.
Tis true...we all know who the real top dog in the square really is. Now Phil can get to his rightful role as hired goon.
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Old 27-07-2015, 03:06
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Absolutely pathetic.

TBTB make me sick.

The total invincibility of the Philth is the biggest joke in soap - a short, fat, middle-aged man with a heart condition eternally beating up bigger, harder, younger and more muscular men.

Remember Conner in the Arches?

Pure farce.

This is why there can never be any decent male villains in Walford anymore.

Because no matter how hard or ruthless they may be just one look from Mitchell as he slowly gasps and wheezes towards them and they immediately collapse into a puddle of terrified yellow jelly.

Preposterous, predictable and utterly dull.

The Mitchells are a joke! If Phil gets the better of Vincent I might even switch off. Look at the size of Vincent and his muscles! It says in the article that Phil catches him off guard. I hope this is just a blip and Vincent gets his own back. Why are "The Mitchells" seen as scary? There's skinny Jay and pudgy Ben without a muscle between them, Roxy and Ronnie who is still recovering from her injuries and as you say Phil is "a short, fat, middle-aged man with a heart condition eternally beating up bigger, harder, younger and more muscular men". Then we have useless Sharon and newcomer to the Mitchell family, Abi. Ronnie is only really as hard as her male back up ie Vincent and a gun. She killed Carl more or less by accident in the heat of the moment and with a stroke of luck. Grant isn't likely to return and Peggy is an old woman. I wouldn't be scared of the Mitchells if I knew them in real life. I WOULD be scared of Vincent however! I really hope Vincent goes ahead and changes The Albert to Pearls. I would love for Vincent to finally put the final nail in the coffin where Phil is concerned. Yes Phil can pay men fitter and harder than him but so can Vincent I would reckon.
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Old 27-07-2015, 07:13
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The Mitchells are a joke! If Phil gets the better of Vincent I might even switch off. Look at the size of Vincent and his muscles! It says in the article that Phil catches him off guard. I hope this is just a blip and Vincent gets his own back. Why are "The Mitchells" seen as scary? There's skinny Jay and pudgy Ben without a muscle between them, Roxy and Ronnie who is still recovering from her injuries and as you say Phil is "a short, fat, middle-aged man with a heart condition eternally beating up bigger, harder, younger and more muscular men". Then we have useless Sharon and newcomer to the Mitchell family, Abi. Ronnie is only really as hard as her male back up ie Vincent and a gun. She killed Carl more or less by accident in the heat of the moment and with a stroke of luck. Grant isn't likely to return and Peggy is an old woman. I wouldn't be scared of the Mitchells if I knew them in real life. I WOULD be scared of Vincent however! I really hope Vincent goes ahead and changes The Albert to Pearls. I would love for Vincent to finally put the final nail in the coffin where Phil is concerned. Yes Phil can pay men fitter and harder than him but so can Vincent I would reckon.
I agree but TPTB are simply obsessed with keeping the Philth as 'top dog'.

And they will happily destroy any other character to do it.

Just look at what they did to Johnny Allen a big time gangster who used to cut off people's fingers for fun.

Once the boorish root vegetable returned to the show Johnny was reduced to cowering to Philth in a fluffy pink jumper whilst Grunt and his own daughter had a cup of tea (Johnny who was also a professional boxer never even got to hit Mitchell).

No wonder Billy left.

It happens time and time again and got boring well before Steve Owen died.

TPTB's writing for their little bald God is a total and utter joke and had been for many years.
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Old 27-07-2015, 09:26
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Ugh.... hasn't it already been established that Vincent can best Phil physically?

I guess Steve McFadden's ego got the better of him and he went crying to TPTB bringing this awful sounding scene about.

There are some merits to the Mitchell family but in terms of ruling over the square they are past it. The current set up is probably the weakest incarnation of the family we have ever seen.

Phil is a has been, Sharon is a doormat, the sisters are distant relations who Phil rarely gives the time of day to, the scarcely-seen Billy is the runt of the litter and Jay isn't even a Mitchell.
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Old 27-07-2015, 09:50
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Ugh.... hasn't it already been established that Vincent can best Phil physically?

I guess Steve McFadden's ego got the better of him and he went crying to TPTB bringing this awful sounding scene about.

There are some merits to the Mitchell family but in terms of ruling over the square they are past it. The current set up is probably the weakest incarnation of the family we have ever seen.

Phil is a has been, Sharon is a doormat, the sisters are distant relations who Phil rarely gives the time of day to, the scarcely-seen Billy is the runt of the litter and Jay isn't even a Mitchell.
The BIB wouldn't surprise me. Something weird is certainly going on behind the scenes the way Phil always wins even if it takes a whole episode for him to win against harder men. Surely it has to come to an end soon?
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Old 27-07-2015, 09:58
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The BIB wouldn't surprise me. Something weird is certainly going on behind the scenes the way Phil always wins even if it takes a whole episode for him to win against harder men. Surely it has to come to an end soon?
I have thought this for many years - ever since Steve Owen was severely weakened to make Mitchell look good.

Dennis should have been able to literally kill him.

When even Johnny or Sean Slater was not allowed to hit the Philth I knew that he would be intimidating everyone forever.

Remember Andrew Cotton? He could have crushed Mitchell like an ant.

I also remember it took not one but four blokes bigger than dinosaurs (debt collectors for a loan shark) to beat him up in the Vic.

I could go on - the list is endless - Jase Dyer takes on an entire Firm one minute and the next is meekly allowing the Philth to 'own' him.

And on and on it goes.

Pitiful.
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Old 27-07-2015, 11:11
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I don't know why people are complaining about Phil. He is quite powerful and he always triumph. Vincent is not that "scary". I would be more scared of Phil than Vincent. Look at the photo of Phil lashing out at Vincent. Vincent can't be that strong...
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Old 27-07-2015, 11:31
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I don't know why people are complaining about Phil. He is quite powerful and he always triumph. Vincent is not that "scary". I would be more scared of Phil than Vincent. Look at the photo of Phil lashing out at Vincent. Vincent can't be that strong...


No he can't - because the writers always make much younger, bigger and more muscular men turn into 6 stone weaklings whenever the Philth gets involved.
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Old 27-07-2015, 11:39
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The Mitchells are a joke! If Phil gets the better of Vincent I might even switch off. Look at the size of Vincent and his muscles! It says in the article that Phil catches him off guard. I hope this is just a blip and Vincent gets his own back. Why are "The Mitchells" seen as scary? There's skinny Jay and pudgy Ben without a muscle between them, Roxy and Ronnie who is still recovering from her injuries and as you say Phil is "a short, fat, middle-aged man with a heart condition eternally beating up bigger, harder, younger and more muscular men". Then we have useless Sharon and newcomer to the Mitchell family, Abi. Ronnie is only really as hard as her male back up ie Vincent and a gun. She killed Carl more or less by accident in the heat of the moment and with a stroke of luck. Grant isn't likely to return and Peggy is an old woman. I wouldn't be scared of the Mitchells if I knew them in real life. I WOULD be scared of Vincent however! I really hope Vincent goes ahead and changes The Albert to Pearls. I would love for Vincent to finally put the final nail in the coffin where Phil is concerned. Yes Phil can pay men fitter and harder than him but so can Vincent I would reckon.
I have no issues what so ever with people hating on the Mitchell's and Phil but what is this fat nonsesne please have a word with yourself.

He is slimmer than Vincent so why not call Vincent young and fat with muscles?

And keyser you to bud pathetic stop using fat.
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Old 27-07-2015, 11:57
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I don't understand the upset! I presume they're setting up a long term rivalry with Phil like they did Steve Owen etc and he won't take it lying down. Of course he'll ultimately win if Richard Blackwood leaves!
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Old 27-07-2015, 12:03
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I don't understand the upset! I presume they're setting up a long term rivalry with Phil like they did Steve Owen etc and he won't take it lying down. Of course he'll ultimately win if Richard Blackwood leaves!
Well I am just going offline but I think you will have expected me to be really delighted with this astonishingly original storyline.
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Old 27-07-2015, 12:09
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Well I am just going offline but I think you will have expected me to be really delighted with this astonishingly original storyline.
Must admit I thought of your reaction when I saw the photo!

I bet when Bobby picked up that golf club you were screaming at the telly "GO ON SON! HIT HIM! HIT HIM! **** OFF IAN! LET HIM DO IT!"
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Old 27-07-2015, 12:50
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Phil will always get to dominate and humiliate every male and female that comes into his orbit. It doesn't matter if they're muscle bound or more intelligent, he will always come out on top.
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Old 27-07-2015, 13:00
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I'm glad he gets the better of Vincent, Phil was starting to get soft, bring back the old hard Phil...love it..
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Old 27-07-2015, 13:33
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This show seriously need to knock off Phil as a character. It stopped being believable a long time ago that he can own other characters. This show's insistence on continuing to have Phil as Top Dog is just bordering on piss taking now.
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Old 27-07-2015, 14:18
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I noticed that some people said Steve McFadden has some influence on his storylines and he demanded that Phil must always come out on top. Where is the evidence for this? It's really unfair to slander Steve McFadden.
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Old 27-07-2015, 15:02
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Vincent is appalling. I'm all for Phil being knocked off his throne but not by this clown. Gavin Sullivan should be the one to do it or better yet Dan Sullivan. It's an insult to Steve Owen, Johnny Allen and all the other characters who took Phil on and lost if Vincent the Clown takes him down.
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Old 27-07-2015, 15:04
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By the way, Pearls sounds like a seedy sex shop for pervs.
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Old 27-07-2015, 15:14
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I noticed that some people said Steve McFadden has some influence on his storylines and he demanded that Phil must always come out on top. Where is the evidence for this? It's really unfair to slander Steve McFadden.
I agree with this! from what I've seen of the actor he has always come across as a nice man and I'm sure I remember reading him say he doesn't always like playing the hardman.
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Old 27-07-2015, 15:16
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I noticed that some people said Steve McFadden has some influence on his storylines and he demanded that Phil must always come out on top. Where is the evidence for this? It's really unfair to slander Steve McFadden.
There is no evidence for it. It's just a cheap shot to attack the actors rather than the characters they play.
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Old 27-07-2015, 15:22
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It's a myth that Phil always comes out on top. But even if he lands on his feet most of the time it's only obvious that the reason for that is because Phil is a long term character whereas his enemies are only ever intended as short term characters.

Here's a few examples of Phil being bested

- Lisa shot him and got away with it
- Lisa took off with his daughter 3 times
- Den Watts got him arrested for armed robbery and put him on the run
- Ben had him locked up for Stella's "murder"
- Grant beat him almost to death
- Jack Branning almost killed him
- Carl White almost killed him

And that's just off the top of my head.
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