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Old 27-07-2015, 23:40
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It's inevitable that the truth will come out.

In the meantime, it is inexcusable.
This.

On the other hand, I can't say with 100% certainty that I wouldn't try and protect any future kids I have in any similar veins either...
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Old 27-07-2015, 23:42
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Tanya is Janes best mate- what would she say if she knew that Jane would be happy framing Max for Lucy's Murder!
She would say. ''How's Adam?''
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Old 28-07-2015, 00:11
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I think in their mind, knowing that Bonby is killer means that logically anyone else who is suspected will ultimately be released. They're sitting tight and will presume there is no evidence against Max.

I however suspect that it will come out that Max and Abi cleaned the car lot and it will be enough to secure a conviction. Then I want to see Ian and Jane's reaction.
Jane seemed happy enough for Jake to go to prison.
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Old 28-07-2015, 02:00
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Why is this such an issue now? Jane let Jake go to prison and he was about to go to trial. She would have let him go down for life.
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Old 28-07-2015, 13:29
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The whole thing is ridiculous Ian and Jane need to wise up and realise Bobby needs to take responsibility for his actions
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Old 28-07-2015, 13:50
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[quote=Sweet_Princess;79099100]The whole thing is ridiculous Ian and Jane need to wise up and realise Bobby needs to take responsibility for his actions QUOTE]

Especially after bobby threatened Phil with a golf club, they are trying to defend bobby by saying he didn't mean to hurt Lucy but after this even they can see he's deranged ! Can't wait for this storyline to get resolved , get rid of Jane and have Kathy sorting Ian out .
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Old 28-07-2015, 14:06
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We're meant to believe that they're being good parents...Steven, Lucy, Peter and Cindy could tell you the opposite is true. It's all about status with Ian...the truth would show him up to be the scum he is.
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Old 28-07-2015, 14:33
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In real life this wouldnt happen the family members would hand in their gulity child
Sadly, it does happen in real like, some mothers and fathers will do anything to protect their children
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Old 29-07-2015, 05:21
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Ian with his 'Ben lied to us he mugged Lucy' well your little shit of a son killed your daughter so please stfu. I don't know how they don't feel guilty and its so easy for them. Jane 'we are sticking to the plan' oh the brilliant plan of letting innocent people go down, and not getting Bobby some sort of psychiatric help. I hate the Beales, I hate them.
Agree. I hate the whole stupid storyline.
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Old 29-07-2015, 06:39
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Well as the killer was originally meant to be a mystery that explains why people lied about seeing Lucy and why Jane didn't do anything when Jake was arrested. It was wrong yes but she was genuinely in mourning for Lucy and probably hoped that there wouldn't be enough evidence to charge Jake.

Both Ian and Jane have shown signs of feeling guilty. Ian was particularly shocked that there was blood on Max's shoes as he probably hoped there would be no "evidence" to tie Max to Lucy's murder. To be fair to Ian he was uneasy after Bobby threatened Phil with that golf club. Jane was the one who put her foot down at that point. I think the reason Ian was less bothered about Ben getting the blame than Max was because Ben lied to them about mugging Lucy and has form for causing trouble.

Ian lied about Max cutting Carl's brakes after being blackmailed by Carl though Max did understand that Ian was afraid Carl would harm his family though ideally you have to take away whatever you're being blackmailed with in that situation. That's not much different though this situation is more personal for Ian because of Bobby.
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Old 29-07-2015, 12:42
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As messed up as it is I understand why they're doing what they're doing. I can't imagine for one second people in the same position wouldn't do similar. Although I think one of them would of probably confessed to save him instead going through all this.
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Old 29-07-2015, 12:56
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I don't watch enough to comment with any certainty, and I've also not read the numerous threads so apologies if this has been covered. is it possible there could be another twist in this e.g. although the boy hit her she wasn't actually dead ... someone else entered the house and finished the job?
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Old 29-07-2015, 13:05
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I don't watch enough to comment with any certainty, and I've also not read the numerous threads so apologies if this has been covered. is it possible there could be another twist in this e.g. although the boy hit her she wasn't actually dead ... someone else entered the house and finished the job?
When would they have entered the house though? Pretty sure bobby was there until Jane arrived.
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Old 29-07-2015, 14:08
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Sadly, it does happen in real like, some mothers and fathers will do anything to protect their children
yeah it does
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Old 29-07-2015, 14:14
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Jane would go down as well so I guess they're protecting Jane and Bobby.
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Old 29-07-2015, 14:26
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I don't watch enough to comment with any certainty, and I've also not read the numerous threads so apologies if this has been covered. is it possible there could be another twist in this e.g. although the boy hit her she wasn't actually dead ... someone else entered the house and finished the job?
But how would they have got in the house though. Ah, I remember Ian leaves his back door open 24/7.
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Old 29-07-2015, 15:22
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Adam Woodyat would never leave Eastenders so I guess he's just going to get away with perverting the course of justice and doing these despicable things just like he's gotten away with every underhand trick he's pulled in the past! Can't see Jane leaving A-gain so Lauren will probably come back and get Max off thus splitting with Peter in the process and Ian and Jane will just go back to their fry ups, chips and dinners!

I can't stand Adam Woodyat and I hate the character Ian so I'm not best chuffed that it's highly likely nothing will happen to Ian or Jane. By nothing I mean, no jail, ostracisation, etc. The only thing that could happen is Bobby might be taken away for a bit but typical Ian, who likes to pass himself off as a good father, is perfectly ok and happy as long as he's got a woman, so he probably wouldn't even care!

Also, how thick is Bobby!!!??? I mean he's not a toddler. Surely at his age you'd know if you'd just KILLED someone?!??!! How dumb do TPTB think we are to swallow this crap! Bobby must have seen she was errrr....NOT MOVING???? He keeps asking pertinent questions, whose blood etc and taking the phone and purse to the police stain yet the fool didn't know he killed her!!! Ridiculous!
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Old 29-07-2015, 15:23
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But how would they have got in the house though. Ah, I remember Ian leaves his back door open 24/7.
all i'm saying is (and please bear in mind i've not referred back to the lives for scene changes etc) unless it's been made 100% crystal clear in the way it was shot that the boy killed the girl and no one else entered before jane or whoever ... then could there be another twist to this?

it's not the first time on a tv show/movie that someone is told 'you thought you were the murderer because you hit/shot him and saw him fall to the ground. what you didn't see was ...'
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Old 29-07-2015, 15:35
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Tbh Ian is acting so suspciously and being weirdly calm about Max having "murdered" Lucy, I'm surprised the other Walford residents aren't a bit puzzled..maybe they think Ian and Jane are in shock.

I know both of them are getting a lot of stick on here for their actions, but it's a really difficult situation. You can tell Ian is desperate to let the truth come out and he knows Bobby needs to see a child psychiatrist, but Jane won't hear of it. She knows he won't have a normal childhood and he will be ostracised by his peers at school if it comes out that he killed Lucy. So I can understand why Jane doesn't want anyone to find out who Lucy's real killer was.

I believe ultimately Ian and Jane don't want anyone sent down and perhaps they both think there'll never be enough substantial evidence to charge Max. It'll be interesting to see their reactions if Max is definitely jailed.

The only thing I disagree with Jane doing in this is willing to frame Ben and hand the evidence she buried in to the police. I know she panicked, but still. Also, leaving Lucy's body in the common was terrible :/ But then maybe she was afraid of how Ian would react and what it would mean for Bobby if she told him then and there. She obviously wasn't thinking rationally.

I think ultimately that Jane will tell the police that she did it (if the actress ever wants to leave). I reckon this will work well as a long running storyline. I think Bobby will realise eventually he was responsible for Lucy's death. But I personally don't think it will be until another few years. Maybe when he's 15/16.
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Old 29-07-2015, 15:44
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Adam Woodyat would never leave Eastenders so I guess he's just going to get away with perverting the course of justice and doing these despicable things just like he's gotten away with every underhand trick he's pulled in the past! Can't see Jane leaving A-gain so Lauren will probably come back and get Max off thus splitting with Peter in the process and Ian and Jane will just go back to their fry ups, chips and dinners!

I can't stand Adam Woodyat and I hate the character Ian so I'm not best chuffed that it's highly likely nothing will happen to Ian or Jane. By nothing I mean, no jail, ostracisation, etc. The only thing that could happen is Bobby might be taken away for a bit but typical Ian, who likes to pass himself off as a good father, is perfectly ok and happy as long as he's got a woman, so he probably wouldn't even care!

Also, how thick is Bobby!!!??? I mean he's not a toddler. Surely at his age you'd know if you'd just KILLED someone?!??!! How dumb do TPTB think we are to swallow this crap! Bobby must have seen she was errrr....NOT MOVING???? Ridiculous!
What has Adam done to you to make you not stand him? And can understand not liking ian but not Adam. As for bobby, yes he's not a toddler but he's 11 maybe 12 so is a child and as far he knew he only knocked her out, Jane sent him up to his room and then moves lucy so he thinks Jane must have woken her up. How's he supposed to know any different? I still think Jane will be the one who goes to prison.
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Old 29-07-2015, 16:02
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What has Adam done to you to make you not stand him? And can understand not liking ian but not Adam. As for bobby, yes he's not a toddler but he's 11 maybe 12 so is a child and as far he knew he only knocked her out, Jane sent him up to his room and then moves lucy so he thinks Jane must have woken her up. How's he supposed to know any different? I still think Jane will be the one who goes to prison.
I just don't warm to Adam as an actor. I think he's typecast and I personally don't really rate his acting. As for Bobby, I'm sorry but yes exactly, he's 11 or 12. My God all if not most kids go to the top of the stairs and listen once they've nee told off or stuff is going on downstairs, plus, surely he would have heard Jane moving Lucy about etc. it couldn't have been easy concealing her body then getting it into the boot of her car etc etc. I'm just hoping Max saw Jane doing this!!!
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Old 29-07-2015, 18:20
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Ian and Jane get more ridiculous by the episode they need to hand in Bobby
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Old 29-07-2015, 18:23
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In real life this wouldnt happen the family members would hand in their gulity child
This isnt real life it is an entertainment soap in which very little echoes real life.
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Old 29-07-2015, 18:26
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This isnt real life it is an entertainment soap in which very little echoes real life.
Why have you followed me from the Big Brother section to this section?
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Old 29-07-2015, 18:41
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Why have you followed me from the Big Brother section to this section?
Dont flatter yourself I read a lot of the forums.
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