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Old 26-05-2016, 09:03
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I'm probably doing BTTS first half but I don't really see the point in having a bank of £150, is an extra £6.50 really worth sacrificing a potential £50?

£50 pre-match on "no" will return £6 profit.

£50 in-play on "yes" will return £200 profit.
I can see your point, but, for me personally, I don't think it's worth doing for just a £6.50 return - assuming the worst of course.

Yes you can obviously level the same argument at a £12.50 return, but at least it's over a tenner.
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Old 26-05-2016, 11:57
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Ok, if you want to cover all the outcomes and keep within the 365 T's & C's, this is the best one for the best overall profit.

£50 on the draw pre-match with 365.
£50 on Real Madrid pre-match with BetVictor.
£50 on Atletico in-play with 365.

A draw at 90 minutes will net you £55 profit, Madrid win will be £25 and Atletico will net you £15.
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Old 26-05-2016, 12:58
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I can see your point, but, for me personally, I don't think it's worth doing for just a £6.50 return - assuming the worst of course.

Yes you can obviously level the same argument at a £12.50 return, but at least it's over a tenner.
Each to their own, it depends how you look at it. I see the difference between £150 and £200 more tempting that the difference between £6 and £12.50. It's still not a loss, I'd probably take a break even if the potential other profit was big enough.

Here's hoping for a fast start from Atletico and an early goal.
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Old 26-05-2016, 13:12
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Each to their own, it depends how you look at it. I see the difference between £150 and £200 more tempting that the difference between £6 and £12.50. It's still not a loss, I'd probably take a break even if the potential other profit was big enough.

Here's hoping for a fast start from Atletico and an early goal.
Obviously i'm going to start swearing and breaking things if Atletico do score early
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Old 26-05-2016, 23:35
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Obviously i'm going to start swearing and breaking things if Atletico do score early
I'm not just want atletico winning to complete the double.

Though I should cover it with something
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Old 27-05-2016, 02:09
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I'm probably doing BTTS first half but I don't really see the point in having a bank of £150, is an extra £6.50 really worth sacrificing a potential £50?

£50 pre-match on "no" will return £6 profit.

£50 in-play on "yes" will return £200 profit.
I feel the same. As somebody who only bets small stakes more recently I've tried to use the bet365 offer just as a risk free bet on one scenario in the hope of winning decent money.

So using this BTTS 1st half example, I would do the 2 bets as you state but then also stick a further £6 in-play on this BTTS. So if BTTS doesn't come in i've zero profit/loss. But if it does come in that's £224 profit (I think)
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Old 27-05-2016, 04:20
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Im gonna go with the BTTS first half option. Most likely outcome is a small profit, but well worth it for the potential £200 if its a lucky night.
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Old 27-05-2016, 06:49
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Im gonna go with the BTTS first half option. Most likely outcome is a small profit, but well worth it for the potential £200 if its a lucky night.
The odds have changed on that one.

£50 on "Yes" will now secure you a £175 profit, so it's a pretty steep drop since yesterday.

I'm still probably going to do it as well but i'm still paranoid they'll suddenly decide to enforce the T's & C's about guaranteeing profit.
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Old 27-05-2016, 07:40
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Yes!!!!

The offer link is http://extra.bet365.com/promotions/en/soccer/champions-league-in-play-bet-offer

I'm going for a double chance bet pre-match, £50 on Real Madrid or Draw at 4/11 which will give a profit of £18. The £50 in-play on Atletico Madrid to win at 11/5 which will give a profit of £110.

Either way, can't lose!
The odds have changed on that one.

£50 on "Yes" will now secure you a £175 profit, so it's a pretty steep drop since yesterday.

I'm still probably going to do it as well but i'm still paranoid they'll suddenly decide to enforce the T's & C's about guaranteeing profit.
I'm going with the double chance then going for Atletico to win in-play. Can't see both teams scoring in the first half, these cup finals are often very cautious in the first half, most of the action will be in the second half or extra time!
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Old 27-05-2016, 07:54
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I'm going with the double chance then going for Atletico to win in-play. Can't see both teams scoring in the first half, these cup finals are often very cautious in the first half, most of the action will be in the second half or extra time!
I assume by double chance you mean the "Real Madrid or Draw" ?

Would ensure a decent £17 quid profit if that was the case with £15 for Atletico in-play.

Every time I look at the possibilities I tend to change my mind .
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Old 27-05-2016, 08:17
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The odds have changed on that one.

£50 on "Yes" will now secure you a £175 profit, so it's a pretty steep drop since yesterday.

I'm still probably going to do it as well but i'm still paranoid they'll suddenly decide to enforce the T's & C's about guaranteeing profit.
The odds nearly always go back up a little bit just before the game though, I bet it'll be back up to 6 by kick off. If you've the balls to wait a couple of mins during the game they go up further! I've never had the balls to do that though and am scrambling around placing the bet straight after kick off!

I'm always a little paranoid about the T&C but I've not heard first hand of anyone getting pulled up on it and I've done the offer countless times with no problems.
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Old 27-05-2016, 08:39
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The odds nearly always go back up a little bit just before the game though, I bet it'll be back up to 6 by kick off. If you've the balls to wait a couple of mins during the game they go up further! I've never had the balls to do that though and am scrambling around placing the bet straight after kick off!

I'm always a little paranoid about the T&C but I've not heard first hand of anyone getting pulled up on it and I've done the offer countless times with no problems.
I did once try waiting for an early goal in one of these games and it took an age to come - the odds on the draw had shortened to the point where i'd actually make a loss but, luckily, one team scored and they went right back up again.
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Old 27-05-2016, 08:43
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I did once try waiting for an early goal in one of these games and it took an age to come - the odds on the draw had shortened to the point where i'd actually make a loss but, luckily, one team scored and they went right back up again.
Yeah, even after just 5 minutes the odds on BTTS in 1st half have usually gone up a fair bit. I just know that the one time I decided to wait it out that someone would score straight away!
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Old 27-05-2016, 11:30
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I WAS going to go with BTTS first half (currently 9/2), but decided to go for the game to be decided in extra-time at 11/2 for my pre-match bet. I'll have to think about the in-play bet. If I can be brave enough and wait I could put it on the game to be won by penalties, depending on the odds. Just a thought.

Might do both teams to score in the second half.
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Old 27-05-2016, 11:49
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BTTS in the 1st and 2nd half is currently 20/1. Would be nice
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Old 27-05-2016, 11:57
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BTTS in the 1st and 2nd half is currently 20/1. Would be nice
Might throw a little tenner on that. Then kick myself if it wins.
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Old 27-05-2016, 11:59
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Might throw a little tenner on that. Then kick myself if it wins.
Yeah, it's tempting. I could adjust the other bets slightly to free up a tenner to have a go on it as well.
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Old 27-05-2016, 12:01
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Your guys knowledge of these free bet offers goes above my head... The one thing I'd say about this game is that it doesn't seem one that seems like it has goals written all over it does it?
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Old 27-05-2016, 12:01
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When would be the ideal time to place the in-play BTTS second half bet? At kickoff, or half-time? I don't want to chance it and wait until 60 minutes or something.

It's currently 11/4. I imagine it'll be about that when the match starts, or maybe 7/2. I don't know if the odds tend to be better or not at half-time. Might depend on the first half and if it's had much action.
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Old 27-05-2016, 12:11
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I WAS going to go with BTTS first half (currently 9/2), but decided to go for the game to be decided in extra-time at 11/2 for my pre-match bet. I'll have to think about the in-play bet. If I can be brave enough and wait I could put it on the game to be won by penalties, depending on the odds. Just a thought.
But then if it's decided in 90 mins you've lost £100. Surely with these offers you're best manipulating it to guarantee yourself a profit?

Your guys knowledge of these free bet offers goes above my head... The one thing I'd say about this game is that it doesn't seem one that seems like it has goals written all over it does it?
I've tended to find that it's a bit hard to predict with the games they've done the offers on. A lot of the ones where both teams have scored in the first half have been unlikely ones with last minute goals. The one that I thought was most nailed on for BTTS score was the Man City Real Madrid game that finished 0-0! All it takes is a quick early goal or a penalty and the game opens up.
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Old 27-05-2016, 12:17
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But then if it's decided in 90 mins you've lost £100. Surely with these offers you're best manipulating it to guarantee yourself a profit?
I just realised I made a slight error in thinking the pre-match bet is the one that's refunded if it fails. That was going to be the risk-free bet.

Doesn't matter, I'll make the in-play bet count. If it's settled in 90 minutes then I lose £50, not £100, since it was a £50 stake.
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Old 27-05-2016, 12:39
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I just realised I made a slight error in thinking the pre-match bet is the one that's refunded if it fails. That was going to be the risk-free bet.

Doesn't matter, I'll make the in-play bet count. If it's settled in 90 minutes then I lose £50, not £100, since it was a £50 stake.
Yeah good point, I forgot about the refund.
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Old 27-05-2016, 16:37
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Your guys knowledge of these free bet offers goes above my head... The one thing I'd say about this game is that it doesn't seem one that seems like it has goals written all over it does it?
Well in club football, it's "the" final so you'd assume it will be a cagey affair but then, as Jambo has said, one early goal and it could all go out of the window.

When would be the ideal time to place the in-play BTTS second half bet? At kickoff, or half-time? I don't want to chance it and wait until 60 minutes or something.

It's currently 11/4. I imagine it'll be about that when the match starts, or maybe 7/2. I don't know if the odds tend to be better or not at half-time. Might depend on the first half and if it's had much action.
Any in-play bet is tricky as the odds update on the fly. Personally, I would give it about 20 minutes and if it turns in to a fairly tight game with limited chances then the odds of BTTS in the 2nd half will probably go up so i'd jump in then.

I'm still flip-flopping about what i want to do. Keep coming back to BTTS 1st half, but then I keep thinking that it won't be a high scoring game so might be won on the odd goal.

Just noticed there's a decent return to be had if you do this for the 1st half only ..

£100 pre-match on Madrid/Draw = £125
£50 in-play on Atletico = £180

So if it's a draw or Madrid are ahead at half time, it's £25 profit. If Atletico are ahead, it's £30 profit.
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Old 27-05-2016, 17:19
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Here's one if you want to big or go home

Own goals ..

£50 pre-match on "No" secures you a £2 profit.
£50 in-play on "Yes" secures you £550 profit
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Old 27-05-2016, 18:00
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Hills have this offer

England are 8/1 with them

England to win Euro 2016 - Get a £5 Free Bet every time England win a match, if you bet £10 or more on this market
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