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...does anyone find it too violent at times?
Recent scenes between Cain and Robert, Ross beating that illegal immigrant and today Ross beating Robert again with the mugging, they just seem too much sometimes, what makes it worse is that these characters never suffer any consequences of their actions. Other than that, it's a great soap ![]() ![]() |
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Yes we were saying this. I like emmerdale too, but the violence is getting silly now.
Every single episode someone beats up Robert (lol) people get kidnapped or shoved in the boot of the car That scene with moira rushing to hit chrissie in the middle of cain beating up- Robert was actually hilarious though. Kept expecting harry hill to turn up. He was keeping an angry Robert away from Chrissie as she was trying to get away from him after Harriet destroyed the SD card with the pictures on.
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Kate Oates is destroying Emmerdale single handedly. The acting in the episodes are appalling especially from the actress playing Chrissie painful to watch
![]() Tracy from Corrie gets criticism on here for getting away with things, yet Ross commits crimes left right and centre and nobody bats a eyelid. Now that I think about it, her and Ross might be quite well suited
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I have found the show quite hypocritical in portraying Robert as villain when Aaron, Cain and Ross have committed gbh a number of times. Tonight was too much. The trouble is they don't portray the injuries that a person would sustain in reality. James would have been cut up and perhaps had brain damage from being bottled. Robert would have sustained a broken nose at least. Robert only grazing Paddy when in reality he would have probably been killed from that distance. Cain seems to beat people up on a regular basis. It just trivialise's violence.
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What I find incredible is all this violence in one tiny country village with only a handful of people living there...Anyone fancy moving to the country?
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Good points OP.
Yes, I do think at times the violence is getting too much, but as others have also said, I think what's almost worse is the lack of consequences to those who are on the receiving end. It's becoming almost cartoon-ish, like when Tom gets regularly squashed on Tom and Jerry and then springs back into shape again and is running around again 10 seconds later. Have to say though, that I loved the slap which Moira gave Chrissie last night..... (double-standards or what... )
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Aaron and Ross are the worst for violence. Cain is bad at the moment but only because Robert pushed him too far by blackmailing him. He had calmed down until then. Being with Moira has changed him for the better I think. But as for Aaron and Ross they both deserve to go to prison. Nasty thugs who never seem to get their cummupance for their violent acts.
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Yet when their toned down and do bugger all like Corrie, people complain it's too tame, it can't win
. I actually don't have a problem with the punch ups and batterings in ED, it makes it more fun to watch . I watch soaps for drama, if I wanted to watch normal everyday life, I'd switch the TV off as its all around me. ED is a bit of escapism from reality, nobody is really getting hit, so what's the problem? Watching Cain smack Robert is highly enjoyable![]() . Ross is a bit much constantly going around coshing folk on the head though. But generally, soap punch ups are great - ED with Robert getting a well deserved punch or Corrie's Kathy getting stuck under some books? I know which one I'd rather watch .
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Just as bad I agree but Ross seems to do it all the time without any sign of remorse at all.
Cain and Aaron are just as bad though and they do get away with far too much as well. It wasn't so long ago that Cain was much worse than Ross is, hence why Zak bashed him over the head and almost killed him. Yes, there is far too much violence nowadays, I'm missing Kate Oates' work from last year. She had fantastic stories and characters to work with and somehow it's nearly all lost. Hopefully things calm down a little after the disaster, though I'll not hold my breath. I think Emmerdale needs to slow down a little bit. Actually take us time to get invested in character relationships, for a start, if we are supposed to care when they have an affair.
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Yet when their toned down and do bugger all like Corrie, people complain it's too tame, it can't win
. I actually don't have a problem with the punch ups and batterings in ED, it makes it more fun to watch . I watch soaps for drama, if I wanted to watch normal everyday life, I'd switch the TV off as its all around me. ED is a bit of escapism from reality, nobody is really getting hit, so what's the problem? Watching Cain smack Robert is highly enjoyable![]() . Ross is a bit much constantly going around coshing folk on the head though. But generally, soap punch ups are great - ED with Robert getting a well deserved punch or Corrie's Kathy getting stuck under some books? I know which one I'd rather watch .I suppose it depends if you enjoy watching violence. I don't mind it if it's within context - but for me it's too OTT lately. |
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Ross has definitely been behaving a tad ridiculous of late and it has put me off his character, I still find the actor charming as all hell but the character I can take or leave. The storylines for him are stupid.
Cain and Aaron are just as bad though and they do get away with far too much as well. It wasn't so long ago that Cain was much worse than Ross is, hence why Zak bashed him over the head and almost killed him. Yes, there is far too much violence nowadays, I'm missing Kate Oates' work from last year. She had fantastic stories and characters to work with and somehow it's nearly all lost. Hopefully things calm down a little after the disaster, though I'll not hold my breath. I think Emmerdale needs to slow down a little bit. Actually take us time to get invested in character relationships, for a start, if we are supposed to care when they have an affair. ![]() For me it's not so much what he's done as the reasons he's done it and the level of violence that he goes to with people who he has no reason to hate. |
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With Cain and Aaron there's usually some provocation for their violence. The person on the receiving end has generally threatened or hurt them, their lifestyle or their loved ones in some way. There's some emotional context for it. It's not right but its much easier to understand and sympathise with. Ross just batters people into a coma because they're standing between him and some cash. People who's only mistake was to go to work. If he's that callous with them what will he be like with anyone who really crosses him? Stab them without a second glance?
For me it's not so much what he's done as the reasons he's done it and the level of violence that he goes to with people who he has no reason to hate. ![]() As I said, the way Ross is being used is stupid. They're trying to use Debbie as his reason for almost killing several people and it's not working. It definitely makes Ross look very cold and to have less of a conscience than any of the villains in Emmerdale of late. |
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With Cain and Aaron there's usually some provocation for their violence. The person on the receiving end has generally threatened or hurt them, their lifestyle or their loved ones in some way. There's some emotional context for it. It's not right but its much easier to understand and sympathise with. Ross just batters people into a coma because they're standing between him and some cash. People who's only mistake was to go to work. If he's that callous with them what will he be like with anyone who really crosses him? Stab them without a second glance?
For me it's not so much what he's done as the reasons he's done it and the level of violence that he goes to with people who he has no reason to hate.
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Ross has definitely been behaving a tad ridiculous of late and it has put me off his character, I still find the actor charming as all hell but the character I can take or leave. The storylines for him are stupid.
Cain and Aaron are just as bad though and they do get away with far too much as well. It wasn't so long ago that Cain was much worse than Ross is, hence why Zak bashed him over the head and almost killed him. Yes, there is far too much violence nowadays, I'm missing Kate Oates' work from last year. She had fantastic stories and characters to work with and somehow it's nearly all lost. Hopefully things calm down a little after the disaster, though I'll not hold my breath. I think Emmerdale needs to slow down a little bit. Actually take us time to get invested in character relationships, for a start, if we are supposed to care when they have an affair. ![]() Good point! Dull Dan certainly didn't do anything to deserve getting punched by Scumbag Cain (who has always treated Dan like crap, and continues to do so). Kirin? Yes, he ran Moira off the road, but Cain used that as an excuse. Although he did deign to give half-arsed thanks of a kind to Kirin, for calling an ambulance after he found him collapsed from his tumour. How big of him. |
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Michael Parr should get out of Emmerdale before his acting career is ruined. If he carries on playing a thug who just steals cars, bashes people's heads in and has sex, he will be typecast and nobody will want to employ him in other roles. It is very sad that Kate Oates has done this to him as he was good in other programmes I have seen him in.
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Okay, now I can totally understand your point of view and I agree with it.
![]() As I said, the way Ross is being used is stupid. They're trying to use Debbie as his reason for almost killing several people and it's not working. It definitely makes Ross look very cold and to have less of a conscience than any of the villains in Emmerdale of late. |
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Reminds me of Carl, a bit. They made hm really horrible towards the end. Although he wasn't permanently violent
![]() I hope not, I still think he can be fixed. |
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You seem convinced that Ross is going to die.
![]() I hope not, I still think he can be fixed.
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That doesn't make sense, being voilent doesn't make ED more better. Good writing and solid characterisation makes a good soap and that on a whole I think ED manages.
I suppose it depends if you enjoy watching violence. I don't mind it if it's within context - but for me it's too OTT lately. .
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Exactly, good characterisation and writing. What's more in character and enjoyable to watch, Cain wallops Robert over those photos, or Cain has a nice boring conversation with Robert over them? Soaps would be dull with no altercations between characters
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That's a fair point Glenda but let's not forget that charity is blackmailing Ross
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I'm not fussed by the violence as it's mostly believably written and shot well rather than looking fake, even if a lot of it is over the top. It does seem to be over reliant on it at the moment though. And it's annoying when the consequences are ridiculously unrealistic - Aaron smashing a bottle over James' head is probably the worst of that. Seems to have been done purely for shock value and had no real consequence whatsoever.
The differences between Tracy Barlow and Ross for me is that we've been watching Tracy get away with stuff (including murder) since Kate Ford took over the role in 2002 with little consequence and she's had barely any character development. Ross has only been Emmerdale for two years so there's time for the writing to change before it all gets immensely stale. It is getting close mind, so I do hope they give him some depth and development soon. |
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Good point!
Dull Dan certainly didn't do anything to deserve getting punched by Scumbag Cain (who has always treated Dan like crap, and continues to do so). Kirin? Yes, he ran Moira off the road, but Cain used that as an excuse. Although he did deign to give half-arsed thanks of a kind to Kirin, for calling an ambulance after he found him collapsed from his tumour. How big of him. I also don't like Cain's treatment of Dan, and he could have been much more gracious to Kirin but seriously the way they're writing Ross now, he's got no boundaries. If he'll put innocent people in a coma for money and not even flinch what else will he do? |
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I do like a nice toecapping every now and again I must say
![]() ![]() ![]() . It give a nice warm fuzzy glow doesn't it? Especially if it's a character whose had it coming for a while, and Cain's the one who dishes it out
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I'm loving it, just going with the OTT element, the stories are good
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He was keeping an angry Robert away from Chrissie as she was trying to get away from him after Harriet destroyed the SD card with the pictures on.

. I actually don't have a problem with the punch ups and batterings in ED, it makes it more fun to watch
. I watch soaps for drama, if I wanted to watch normal everyday life, I'd switch the TV off as its all around me. ED is a bit of escapism from reality, nobody is really getting hit, so what's the problem? Watching Cain smack Robert is highly enjoyable
. Ross is a bit much constantly going around coshing folk on the head though. But generally, soap punch ups are great - ED with Robert getting a well deserved punch or Corrie's Kathy getting stuck under some books? I know which one I'd rather watch
