I agree. For the past three or four years there's been an awful lot of violence and much of it has been quite graphic, or in the case of the Cameron stuff, really chilling. I'm not saying they shouldn't have violence but we don't need to see so much of it. I do think ED goes quite close to the knuckle with both the violence and the sex that it shows.

Cain wasn't beating Robert up? He was keeping an angry Robert away from Chrissie as she was trying to get away from him after Harriet destroyed the SD card with the pictures on.

not everyone who posts on the ED forums watches CS or posts about it. I watch it but rarely post. I regularly criticise Ross for the way he seems to think that any human being who gets in his way is disposable. I think Tracy's attitude that she was somehow a victim of a miscarriage of justice and didn't murder her husband is even worse. She doesn't seem to realise that she murdered someone, never mind that she did it purely because she didn't want to be with him Now that I think about it, her and Ross might be quite well suited

I think Robert is potrayed as a villain because of what happened with Katie and the fact that he almost killed Paddy and Chas. Being a bit violent isn't a good thing, but intentionally killing someone is worse.

What I find incredible is all this violence in one tiny country village with only a handful of people living there...Anyone fancy moving to the country?

Good points OP.

Yes, I do think at times the violence is getting too much, but as others have also said, I think what's almost worse is the lack of consequences to those who are on the receiving end.

It's becoming almost cartoon-ish, like when Tom gets regularly squashed on Tom and Jerry and then springs back into shape again and is running around again 10 seconds later.

Have to say though, that I loved the slap which Moira gave Chrissie last night..... (double-standards or what...)

Aaron and Ross are the worst for violence. Cain is bad at the moment but only because Robert pushed him too far by blackmailing him. He had calmed down until then. Being with Moira has changed him for the better I think. But as for Aaron and Ross they both deserve to go to prison. Nasty thugs who never seem to get their cummupance for their violent acts.

Yet when their toned down and do bugger all like Corrie, people complain it's too tame, it can't win. I actually don't have a problem with the punch ups and batterings in ED, it makes it more fun to watch. I watch soaps for drama, if I wanted to watch normal everyday life, I'd switch the TV off as its all around me. ED is a bit of escapism from reality, nobody is really getting hit, so what's the problem? Watching Cain smack Robert is highly enjoyable. Ross is a bit much constantly going around coshing folk on the head though. But generally, soap punch ups are great - ED with Robert getting a well deserved punch or Corrie's Kathy getting stuck under some books? I know which one I'd rather watch.

Ross has definitely been behaving a tad ridiculous of late and it has put me off his character, I still find the actor charming as all hell but the character I can take or leave. The storylines for him are stupid.

Cain and Aaron are just as bad though and they do get away with far too much as well. It wasn't so long ago that Cain was much worse than Ross is, hence why Zak bashed him over the head and almost killed him.

Yes, there is far too much violence nowadays, I'm missing Kate Oates' work from last year. She had fantastic stories and characters to work with and somehow it's nearly all lost.

Hopefully things calm down a little after the disaster, though I'll not hold my breath. I think Emmerdale needs to slow down a little bit. Actually take us time to get invested in character relationships, for a start, if we are supposed to care when they have an affair.

That doesn't make sense, being voilent doesn't make ED more better. Good writing and solid characterisation makes a good soap and that on a whole I think ED manages.

I suppose it depends if you enjoy watching violence. I don't mind it if it's within context - but for me it's too OTT lately.

With Cain and Aaron there's usually some provocation for their violence. The person on the receiving end has generally threatened or hurt them, their lifestyle or their loved ones in some way. There's some emotional context for it. It's not right but its much easier to understand and sympathise with. Ross just batters people into a coma because they're standing between him and some cash. People who's only mistake was to go to work. If he's that callous with them what will he be like with anyone who really crosses him? Stab them without a second glance?

For me it's not so much what he's done as the reasons he's done it and the level of violence that he goes to with people who he has no reason to hate.

Okay, now I can totally understand your point of view and I agree with it.

As I said, the way Ross is being used is stupid. They're trying to use Debbie as his reason for almost killing several people and it's not working.
It definitely makes Ross look very cold and to have less of a conscience than any of the villains in Emmerdale of late.

That's a fair point Glenda but let's not forget that charity is blackmailing Ross

Good point!

Dull Dan certainly didn't do anything to deserve getting punched by Scumbag Cain (who has always treated Dan like crap, and continues to do so).

Kirin? Yes, he ran Moira off the road, but Cain used that as an excuse.

Although he did deign to give half-arsed thanks of a kind to Kirin, for calling an ambulance after he found him collapsed from his tumour. How big of him.

Michael Parr should get out of Emmerdale before his acting career is ruined. If he carries on playing a thug who just steals cars, bashes people's heads in and has sex, he will be typecast and nobody will want to employ him in other roles. It is very sad that Kate Oates has done this to him as he was good in other programmes I have seen him in.

Reminds me of Carl, a bit. They made hm really horrible towards the end. Although he wasn't permanently violent

You seem convinced that Ross is going to die.

I hope not, I still think he can be fixed.

If he's killed off ill be peed off

Exactly, good characterisation and writing. What's more in character and enjoyable to watch, Cain wallops Robert over those photos, or Cain has a nice boring conversation with Robert over them? Soaps would be dull with no altercations between characters.

I do like a nice toecapping every now and again I must say

over what? How would the truth ruin anything for him? He doesn't love Debbie. it's lust and the fact that she's marrying Pete. They went from flirting to deciding they were meant for each other. She was looking for an escape from her engagement. If she hadn't been with Pete they would have had a fling. Charity's not asking him to be a Dad to Moses either. The whole 'great romance' feels very flimsy.

I'm not fussed by the violence as it's mostly believably written and shot well rather than looking fake, even if a lot of it is over the top. It does seem to be over reliant on it at the moment though. And it's annoying when the consequences are ridiculously unrealistic - Aaron smashing a bottle over James' head is probably the worst of that. Seems to have been done purely for shock value and had no real consequence whatsoever.

The differences between Tracy Barlow and Ross for me is that we've been watching Tracy get away with stuff (including murder) since Kate Ford took over the role in 2002 with little consequence and she's had barely any character development. Ross has only been Emmerdale for two years so there's time for the writing to change before it all gets immensely stale. It is getting close mind, so I do hope they give him some depth and development soon.

I'm looking forward to Ross' apology to the jewellery shop owner or the lorry driver for doing a bit more than punching them.

I also don't like Cain's treatment of Dan, and he could have been much more gracious to Kirin but seriously the way they're writing Ross now, he's got no boundaries. If he'll put innocent people in a coma for money
and not even flinch what else will he do?

. It give a nice warm fuzzy glow doesn't it? Especially if it's a character whose had it coming for a while, and Cain's the one who dishes it out

I'm loving it, just going with the OTT element, the stories are good