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University police officer charged with murder for shooting of Samuel DuBose
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WhatJoeThinks
30-07-2015
Originally Posted by The Guardian:
“A white police officer who gunned down an unarmed black man in Cincinnati, Ohio, has been indicted for murder by a grand jury, as the county prosecutor described the shooting as the “most asinine act” he had ever seen committed by a police officer.

Samuel DuBose, 43, was killed on 19 July by a single shot to the head fired by University of Cincinnati police officer Ray Tensing during a routine traffic stop, in which DuBose was pulled over for not having a front license plate.”

University police officer charged with murder for shooting of Samuel DuBose (includes video)

What a perfectly vicious little circle; A black person pulled over by white cop for a relatively minor driving offense fears for his life, so tries to escape from the situation before things take a turn for the worse. To prevent the felon from escaping the officer shoots him in the head!
dee123
30-07-2015
"The university does a great job at educating people that should be their job, being police officers should not be their job"

"The traffic stop occurred near the university's main campus, and UC police have said the intersection was within the campus's police jurisdiction"


Wait so hold on. The university has their own private police force which patrols the university itself and it's grounds. And they are doing traffic stops and have guns? Why exactly? Are frat parties that out of control?

There are some facets of the USA i will never understand.
WhatJoeThinks
30-07-2015
Complete footage (3:42)
Dotheboyshall
30-07-2015
Originally Posted by dee123:
“Wait so hold on. The university has their own private police force which patrols the university itself and it's grounds. And they are doing traffic stops and have guns? Why exactly? Are frat parties that out of control?”

Private police forces are quite common in the US especially "Campus Cops". What's unusual is that this happened off campus and on a normal street.
dee123
30-07-2015
Originally Posted by Dotheboyshall:
“Private police forces are quite common in the US especially "Campus Cops". What's unusual is that this happened off campus and on a normal street.”

Campus security is NOT the same as having your own police force.
blueblade
30-07-2015
You do begin to wonder if the US police are going completely mad.
Dotheboyshall
30-07-2015
Originally Posted by blueblade:
“You do begin to wonder if the US police are going completely mad.”

18000 different law enforcement agencies in the US all with different rules.
Dotheboyshall
30-07-2015
Originally Posted by dee123:
“Campus security is NOT the same as having your own police force.”

Campus police are law enforcement agencies
Philip Wales
30-07-2015
Not really different to us we have at least 3 different uniformed police forces
walterwhite
30-07-2015
Originally Posted by Philip Wales:
“Not really different to us we have at least 3 different uniformed police forces”

We don't have seemingly private police forces who are fully armed patrolling our Universities though do we?
WhatJoeThinks
30-07-2015
People are still baying for blood after the 'murder' of Cecil the lion, but no so much in this thread. I suppose that answers the question of whether the lives of animals are as important as the lives of humans.
Evo102
30-07-2015
Originally Posted by walterwhite:
“We don't have seemingly private police forces who are fully armed patrolling our Universities though do we?”

But we do our railway stations, BTP and their armed officers are funded almost entirely by the private train operating companies and Network Rail.
Elyan
30-07-2015
The officer was reckless at best from what I can see.

I'm glad I live in a country where officers licensed to carry firearms are carefully selected and trained properly.

I've met some coppers who I wouldn't trust to tie their own shoelaces, never mind carry a loaded gun, and I'm sure America is no different.
Semierotic
30-07-2015
Originally Posted by dee123:
“Wait so hold on. The university has their own private police force which patrols the university itself and it's grounds. And they are doing traffic stops and have guns? Why exactly? Are frat parties that out of control?”

It's not unusual in that country. I went to Temple University in Philadelphia and it had a massive 'police' force. Given how dodgy the area around the campus was, I wasn't complaining.
My usernames
30-07-2015
So the cop asked for his license continually after. Being told By the driver that he didn't have it. The killer cop then tells the driver to undo the seat belt whilst opening the car door. What happens next is unclear. Next we see the cop shouting and running after the car. Another cop appears with his gun aimed at the car which has stopped. The driver appears to be motionless behind the wheel. Killer cop turns off his body cam.

Interesting......
Why was this cop stopping drivers on a public street off campus?
Why did he open the car door?
". ". He refuse to check on his radio that the driver wasn't disqualified?

He seemed to want to have an altercation with the driver who was calm and co operative.
Looks like he was operating outside of his jurisdiction. Too many mentally challenged fools are given uniforms and weapons in America.
Jasper92
30-07-2015
Originally Posted by dee123:
“Wait so hold on. The university has their own private police force which patrols the university itself and it's grounds. And they are doing traffic stops and have guns? Why exactly? Are frat parties that out of control?

There are some facets of the USA i will never understand.”

The cop who was shot dead by the Boston Marathon bombers a few days after the explosions was an MIT campus officer.
Pee
30-07-2015
I eagerly await the "I'm not defending the cop, but here's why I think it's the victim that's to blame" posts from the usual suspects
Fried Kickin
30-07-2015
Originally Posted by Pee:
“I eagerly await the "I'm not defending the cop, but here's why I think it's the victim that's to blame" posts from the usual suspects”

It remains to be decided if he was indeed dragged.
The prosecution say he wasn't .. but that doesn't make it fact.
blueblade
30-07-2015
Originally Posted by My usernames:
“So the cop asked for his license continually after. Being told By the driver that he didn't have it. The killer cop then tells the driver to undo the seat belt whilst opening the car door. What happens next is unclear. Next we see the cop shouting and running after the car. Another cop appears with his gun aimed at the car which has stopped. The driver appears to be motionless behind the wheel. Killer cop turns off his body cam.

Interesting......
Why was this cop stopping drivers on a public street off campus?
Why did he open the car door?
". ". He refuse to check on his radio that the driver wasn't disqualified?

He seemed to want to have an altercation with the driver who was calm and co operative.
Looks like he was operating outside of his jurisdiction. Too many mentally challenged fools are given uniforms and weapons in America.”

I do get the feeling that some of them are deliberately looking for trouble.

It's time Obama seriously addressed the obvious issues in the US police generally.
Evo102
30-07-2015
Originally Posted by My usernames:
“So the cop asked for his license continually after. Being told By the driver that he didn't have it. The killer cop then tells the driver to undo the seat belt whilst opening the car door. What happens next is unclear. Next we see the cop shouting and running after the car. Another cop appears with his gun aimed at the car which has stopped. The driver appears to be motionless behind the wheel. Killer cop turns off his body cam.

Interesting......
Why was this cop stopping drivers on a public street off campus?
Why did he open the car door?
". ". He refuse to check on his radio that the driver wasn't disqualified?

He seemed to want to have an altercation with the driver who was calm and co operative.
Looks like he was operating outside of his jurisdiction. Too many mentally challenged fools are given uniforms and weapons in America.”

I understand it is quite normal that college police have a mutual agreement with the local police department that allows them patrol outside of the campus.
Takae
30-07-2015
Originally Posted by Fried Kickin:
“It remains to be decided if he was indeed dragged.
The prosecution say he wasn't .. but that doesn't make it fact.”

The video makes it fact. Hence, the verdict.
Fried Kickin
30-07-2015
Originally Posted by Takae:
“The video makes it fact. Hence, the verdict.”

The officer has plead not guilty.
http://edition.cnn.com/2015/07/30/us...ubose-tensing/

Try not to jump to unsubstantiated conclusions.
Axtol
30-07-2015
Originally Posted by blueblade:
“It's time Obama seriously addressed the obvious issues in the US police generally.”

What do you think he should do?
Takae
30-07-2015
Originally Posted by Fried Kickin:
“The officer has plead not guilty.
http://edition.cnn.com/2015/07/30/us...ubose-tensing/

Try not to jump to unsubstantiated conclusions.”

I wasn't referring to the court verdict, but the verdict on which charge to press. Poor word choice on my part, so let me reword my previous response: Hence, the charge.
anne_666
30-07-2015
Originally Posted by Fried Kickin:
“The officer has plead not guilty.
http://edition.cnn.com/2015/07/30/us...ubose-tensing/

Try not to jump to unsubstantiated conclusions.”

Have you actually watched the video, or read the link? His hand wasn't caught anywhere, he fell backwards after he killed him and he certainly wasn't dragged anywhere. Nothing unsubstantiated about it.
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