Indeed - quite the reverse in fact:-


He was not dragged. Fact.

If you take the silver car parked some 20 feet in front of them at the time Of the stop. At 1.56 when tensing gets up after falling backwards, he is significantly closer to that silver car further down the road. How did he get there? That's what has been suggested.

Thanks I was giving up hope

You're offering up excuses for one to panic, but not the other, which leads me to think that maybe you place a cop's life above that of an ordinary person.

No just the circumstances are different.

As mentioned above if you give someone a gun and tell them to go fight crime against people often armed equally, there will be a degree of human error.

Which is why few police officers get convicted of murder because the majority of shootings are a reactive strike to something that is happening, rather than intent to kill outright.

Manslaughter doesn't require the same intent.

Yes, there's a degree of human error with the other situation as well. But you are calling that murder ergo: you're cutting slack for the cop.

What is a reactive strike for? What has he got to fear. In this case for reactive strike. read trigger happy moron.

The unique circumstances surrounding a civilian shooting a police officer may well tease out the facts that the panic and subsequent shooting was reasonable (e.g an officer entering a house but failing to identify himself etc) but I imagine such a scenario would be very rare, and thus can't really be used as a blanket comparison.

If a person is engaged in unlawful activity and shoots an officer trying to carry out law enforcement by claiming he "panicked", then he isn't going to get much leeway, and the reasons for that I thought would be obvious.

Police officers in the US live in a huge country where every traffic stop, every incident, every arrest has the potential for them to be shot at whilst carrying out their duty, so prevalent are guns there. Do you not see therefore why there are going to be incidents where jittery officers are going to be seen to be shooting first, asking questions later? It's a completely different culture.

I'm trying to explain how the law works, it's the same for everyone.

By whom?

You can explain till the cows come home. It does not negate one jot what I have said, and it also validates why Tensing has been charged with murder - although you're even trying to downplay that as being the result of pressures from elsewhere.

From what I have read elsewhere not on this forum. It's a plausible explanation when you watch the video unless you have an alternative method of how he ended up further down the road?

It does, as another poster has explained in some detail above.

I don't accept what has been said by you. Not one jot.

Also, Tensing has been charged with murder for "purposeful killing" - it was not reactive due to panic.

Have a look at the video of the press conference. It explains everything, and the allegation of dragging is strongly refuted. I submit they know a lot more than you do.

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The video's as clear as day, especially slowed down. He said, he was tangled up in the car. He thought he was going to be run over, how was he, at the side of the car. He thought he'd be "sucked under the car", that's a weird one. He was being dragged, how? Contradictory excuses.
He said he was being dragged at some speed, so then had to shoot him. He wasn't being dragged at all, the car behind appears to be in the same place in the couple of seconds it took to shoot him in the head. The Police chief or whoever he is said the car was moving very slowly when he shot him. Both of his hands were free. He moved close to the car, put his left arm into the car to try to switch off the ignition first. He then moved back from the car. Then he put that arm back into the car to pull the man's left arm away from his head and immediately shot him in the head. 3 seconds in total after the man turned on the ignition.. How the hell could he do that with a car driving off at speed? He then moved that hand again to the back part of the open window as it moved off, I think in an instinctive attempt to stop it with a shot in the head victim at the wheel! I also think he's hung onto the car, not being dragged until it gained speed , he lost his balance completely, he is on the ground with both arms in the air a few feet up the road. How could he be tangled up anywhere, he was also away from the opening side of the door. Has he explained that excuse at all?

At 1:56 Tensings left hand can clearly be seen moving toward the door pillar. Here is a screen grab; http://oi62.tinypic.com/w7g7rn.jpg

He appears to lose balance which is believable but there is no way he was ever dragged and, despite the silver car, i cannot see or hear any evidence to support that either. Within the space of just six seconds Tensing had fired that fatal shot, lost balance, and was running after DuBose's car. That's a pretty quick recovery.

I'm beginning to take this personal as you are ignoring others posts on the subject and concentrating solely on mine despite us both making the same points.

I have explained clearly as has another poster above.

What he has been charged with and what he is convicted of (if at all) are 2 different things.

I'm not going to respond any further to you if you are going to make it personal.

I understand your point but how did he end up that much further down the road?

It's not personal, it's factual.

But we will have to agree to disagree if you are interpreting it as personal, and stop now.

Have you watched it in slow motion?

Agreed. There is no way on God's Green Earth that he was dragged by the car. He shot and was then up and running almost simultaneously, which would not have been the case if he was being dragged.

In fact if you study the video, his right hand was resting on the top of the vehicle at the precise moment when the car started, and there is no indication that his left hand was in it.

It is manifest nonsense for it to be suggested that he was dragged.

I have and I'm trying to make out what you have written above because I can't make too much sense of it.

Could you possibly break it down a bit more?

I'm not sure the silver car is actually quite as far away as it first appears to be when viewing. However i would expect after the shooting the scene would have been contained and sealed off and all appropriate measurements taken. At least that's what the Police would do here....not sure what they do in the US.

I really can't. .25 speed is best and freeze frame it. The silver car isn't that far away and was along side him, then he let go and must have staggered backwards onto the ground.. He had to be trying to hold onto the car, that would be anyone's instinct. There was no conceivable way he could be "tangled up" in it.

I've watched it in slow motion and I still can't work out how he ends up so far down the road.

It appears he shoots him then the car moves, but he falls back almost instantly after shooting him so I can't work out how he got there.

It's not that far down the road.