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University police officer charged with murder for shooting of Samuel DuBose |
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I eagerly await the "I'm not defending the cop, but here's why I think it's the victim that's to blame" posts from the usual suspects
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In this case there's no doubt but why can't people ask questions about an alleged victim
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No doubt the unarmed victim was murdered by that cop wannabe. He stopped the driver and badgered him with questions before shooting him in the head.
MURDER plain and simple. |
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Why did he try to escape?
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Why did he try to escape?
White cops in America kill black people for sport and get away with it. He was alone with two white cops who were armed who stopped him for no reasons, he tried to escape the inevitable outcome of many such encounters. They murdered him anyway
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Have you been watching the news lately?
White cops in America kill black people for sport and get away with it. He was alone with two white cops who were armed who stopped him for no reasons, he tried to escape the inevitable outcome of many such encounters. They murdered him anyway ![]() |
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Funny that not many ask about an alleged shooter. This is one thing I noticed about certain hardcore doubting Thomases.
![]() The police in general are all tarred with the same brush on here
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Have you actually watched the video, or read the link? His hand wasn't caught anywhere, he fell backwards after he killed him and he certainly wasn't dragged anywhere. Nothing unsubstantiated about it.
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I wasn't referring to the court verdict, but the verdict on which charge to press. Poor word choice on my part, so let me reword my previous response: Hence, the charge.
So let's not be hasty. |
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The policeman who defended himself from the attacker with the pole was a victim too but was still being seem as an aggressor and in the wrong on here.
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Innocent until proven guilty not Guilty until proven innocent is the way it generally works though.
So let's not be hasty. |
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I watched the video twice and couldn't be positive as to whether he was or wasn't dragged.
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“It is our belief that he was not dragged,” he said. “If you slow down this tape, you see what happened. It is a very short period of time from when this car just starts slowly rolling that the gun is out and he’s shot in the head.”
The Counted: people killed by police in the United States in 2015 – interactive The Guardian is counting the people killed by US law enforcement agencies this year. Read their stories and contribute to our ongoing, crowdsourced project Read more He added: “I think he was making an excuse for a purposeful killing of another person.” Deters called footage from the body camera “invaluable”. “If there hadn’t been video …” he said, before a reporter interjected and cut off the rest of his sentence. “I think it’s a good idea for police to wear them because nine times out of 10 it clears them of wrongdoing. In this case, obviously, it let to an indictment for murder,” he said. |
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I saw this thread earlier and waited to see the outcome - heartened somewhat to see its only 2 pages rather than dozens of pages of "it's the victims fault" but still can't believe that in a clear video of a murder (unprovoked) people will still try and find the victim (usually black) at fault.
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Why did he try to escape?
The policeman even gives him an opportunity to admit that he's driving without a license but he keeps telling the officer to go and run his name/plates instead. He was probably already looking for an opportunity to do a runner. Doesn't mean the officer had reason to shoot him in the circumstances as they played out though. |
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Was he wearing gang colours?
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His licence was suspended indefinitely so he was driving without a licence. His rap sheet is as long as your arm, so he was probably thinking he'd do some time.
The policeman even gives him an opportunity to admit that he's driving without a license but he keeps telling the officer to go and run his name/plates instead. He was probably already looking for an opportunity to do a runner. Doesn't mean the officer had reason to shoot him in the circumstances as they played out though. It's refreshing for once to see some clear belt cam evidence which nails the PO perpetrator. Long may it continue. |
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That sounds nonsensical. If you run you usually have something to hide, and over there it could be a deadly weapon or you're wanted on serious charges. You can't just pick and choose what laws to obey because you are black.
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Was he wearing gang colours?
He could've been wearing a navy blue polo shirt and tan chinos that murdering pice of shit would still have shot him for no other reason than race. Which is why he is charged with murder. Keep up. |
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Was he wearing gang colours?
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His licence was suspended indefinitely so he was driving without a licence. His rap sheet is as long as your arm, so he was probably thinking he'd do some time.
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The policeman even gives him an opportunity to admit that he's driving without a license but he keeps telling the officer to go and run his name/plates instead. He was probably already looking for an opportunity to do a runner. DuBose was stopped because his front plate was missing. Even the Prosecutor commented; Deters, who was visibly angered at points during the press conference, continued: “He [Tensing] wasn’t dealing with someone who was wanted for murder, OK? He was dealing with someone who didn’t have a front license plate. This is, in the vernacular, a pretty chicken-crap stop, all right? And – I could use harsher words.Doesn't mean the officer had reason to shoot him in the circumstances as they played out though. “I’ve been doing this for 30 years,” he added. “This is the most asinine act I’ve ever seen a police officer make, totally unwarranted.” Only a few weeks ago a black woman gets shot dead by a police officer for committing the most heinous act of failing to indicate a lane change. I think that just about sums up the trigger happy police of USA. |
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Please post up links to the bib.
DuBose was stopped because his front plate was missing. Even the Prosecutor commented; Deters, who was visibly angered at points during the press conference, continued: “He [Tensing] wasn’t dealing with someone who was wanted for murder, OK? He was dealing with someone who didn’t have a front license plate. This is, in the vernacular, a pretty chicken-crap stop, all right? And – I could use harsher words. “I’ve been doing this for 30 years,” he added. “This is the most asinine act I’ve ever seen a police officer make, totally unwarranted.” Only a few weeks ago a black woman gets shot dead by a police officer for committing the most heinous act of failing to indicate a lane change. I think that just about sums up the trigger happy police of USA.
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Worse than that, the officer had apparently sped after her and driven right up behind her so she changed lanes to let him pass. She wouldn't have even been changing lanes if it wasn't for the cop.
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Except she wasn't shot dead, she supposedly hung herself in prison after she was wrongfully arrested. Which I seriously doubt.
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Except she wasn't shot dead, she supposedly hung herself in prison after she was wrongfully arrested. Which I seriously doubt.
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You tell us, since you must know if that is sufficient reason to be murdered by a rent a cop
He could've been wearing a navy blue polo shirt and tan chinos that murdering pice of shit would still have shot him for no other reason than race. Which is why he is charged with murder. Keep up. |
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Nothing new
Is this really surprising? Black life means nothing to most police men. |
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