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Old 30-07-2015, 18:20
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I eagerly await the "I'm not defending the cop, but here's why I think it's the victim that's to blame" posts from the usual suspects
In this case there's no doubt but why can't people ask questions about an alleged victim
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Old 30-07-2015, 18:27
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In this case there's no doubt but why can't people ask questions about an alleged victim
Funny that not many ask about an alleged shooter. This is one thing I noticed about certain hardcore doubting Thomases.
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Old 30-07-2015, 18:32
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No doubt the unarmed victim was murdered by that cop wannabe. He stopped the driver and badgered him with questions before shooting him in the head.

MURDER plain and simple.
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Old 30-07-2015, 18:34
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Why did he try to escape?
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Old 30-07-2015, 18:43
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Why did he try to escape?
Have you been watching the news lately?

White cops in America kill black people for sport and get away with it.
He was alone with two white cops who were armed who stopped him for no reasons, he tried to escape the inevitable outcome of many such encounters. They murdered him anyway
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Old 30-07-2015, 18:46
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Have you been watching the news lately?

White cops in America kill black people for sport and get away with it.
He was alone with two white cops who were armed who stopped him for no reasons, he tried to escape the inevitable outcome of many such encounters. They murdered him anyway
That sounds nonsensical. If you run you usually have something to hide, and over there it could be a deadly weapon or you're wanted on serious charges. You can't just pick and choose what laws to obey because you are black.
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Old 30-07-2015, 18:51
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Funny that not many ask about an alleged shooter. This is one thing I noticed about certain hardcore doubting Thomases.
The policeman who defended himself from the attacker with the pole was a victim too but was still being seem as an aggressor and in the wrong on here.

The police in general are all tarred with the same brush on here
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Old 30-07-2015, 19:18
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Have you actually watched the video, or read the link? His hand wasn't caught anywhere, he fell backwards after he killed him and he certainly wasn't dragged anywhere. Nothing unsubstantiated about it.
I watched the video twice and couldn't be positive as to whether he was or wasn't dragged.
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Old 30-07-2015, 19:22
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I wasn't referring to the court verdict, but the verdict on which charge to press. Poor word choice on my part, so let me reword my previous response: Hence, the charge.
Innocent until proven guilty not Guilty until proven innocent is the way it generally works though.
So let's not be hasty.
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Old 30-07-2015, 19:25
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The policeman who defended himself from the attacker with the pole was a victim too but was still being seem as an aggressor and in the wrong on here.

The police in general are all tarred with the same brush on here
The victims in general are all tarred with the same brush here as well. Such is life.

Innocent until proven guilty not Guilty until proven innocent is the way it generally works though.
So let's not be hasty.
Aren't you quaint?
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Old 30-07-2015, 19:36
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I watched the video twice and couldn't be positive as to whether he was or wasn't dragged.
I watched it in slow motion but it's evident at normal speed.

http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2...nine-senseless

“It is our belief that he was not dragged,” he said. “If you slow down this tape, you see what happened. It is a very short period of time from when this car just starts slowly rolling that the gun is out and he’s shot in the head.”

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He added: “I think he was making an excuse for a purposeful killing of another person.”

Deters called footage from the body camera “invaluable”. “If there hadn’t been video …” he said, before a reporter interjected and cut off the rest of his sentence.

“I think it’s a good idea for police to wear them because nine times out of 10 it clears them of wrongdoing. In this case, obviously, it let to an indictment for murder,” he said.
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Old 30-07-2015, 20:20
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I saw this thread earlier and waited to see the outcome - heartened somewhat to see its only 2 pages rather than dozens of pages of "it's the victims fault" but still can't believe that in a clear video of a murder (unprovoked) people will still try and find the victim (usually black) at fault.
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Old 30-07-2015, 20:25
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Why did he try to escape?
His licence was suspended indefinitely so he was driving without a licence. His rap sheet is as long as your arm, so he was probably thinking he'd do some time.

The policeman even gives him an opportunity to admit that he's driving without a license but he keeps telling the officer to go and run his name/plates instead. He was probably already looking for an opportunity to do a runner.

Doesn't mean the officer had reason to shoot him in the circumstances as they played out though.
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Old 30-07-2015, 21:37
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Was he wearing gang colours?
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Old 30-07-2015, 22:23
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His licence was suspended indefinitely so he was driving without a licence. His rap sheet is as long as your arm, so he was probably thinking he'd do some time.

The policeman even gives him an opportunity to admit that he's driving without a license but he keeps telling the officer to go and run his name/plates instead. He was probably already looking for an opportunity to do a runner.

Doesn't mean the officer had reason to shoot him in the circumstances as they played out though.
Absolutely not. That's why he's been charged with murder.

It's refreshing for once to see some clear belt cam evidence which nails the PO perpetrator. Long may it continue.
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Old 30-07-2015, 22:29
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That sounds nonsensical. If you run you usually have something to hide, and over there it could be a deadly weapon or you're wanted on serious charges. You can't just pick and choose what laws to obey because you are black.
Typical BS from a supporter of homicidal cops watch this video and listen to what is said, if you can follow it, it's in plain English, that should help you
http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2...nine-senseless
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Old 30-07-2015, 22:32
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Was he wearing gang colours?
You tell us, since you must know if that is sufficient reason to be murdered by a rent a cop
He could've been wearing a navy blue polo shirt and tan chinos that murdering pice of shit would still have shot him for no other reason than race. Which is why he is charged with murder. Keep up.
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Old 30-07-2015, 22:52
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Was he wearing gang colours?
I'd love to know which fearsome gang uses cheerfully-red flower bucket hats as part of their street identity.
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Old 30-07-2015, 23:37
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His licence was suspended indefinitely so he was driving without a licence. His rap sheet is as long as your arm, so he was probably thinking he'd do some time.
Please post up links to the bib.


The policeman even gives him an opportunity to admit that he's driving without a license but he keeps telling the officer to go and run his name/plates instead. He was probably already looking for an opportunity to do a runner.

Doesn't mean the officer had reason to shoot him in the circumstances as they played out though.
DuBose was stopped because his front plate was missing. Even the Prosecutor commented; Deters, who was visibly angered at points during the press conference, continued: “He [Tensing] wasn’t dealing with someone who was wanted for murder, OK? He was dealing with someone who didn’t have a front license plate. This is, in the vernacular, a pretty chicken-crap stop, all right? And – I could use harsher words.

“I’ve been doing this for 30 years,” he added. “This is the most asinine act I’ve ever seen a police officer make, totally unwarranted.”


Only a few weeks ago a black woman gets shot dead by a police officer for committing the most heinous act of failing to indicate a lane change.

I think that just about sums up the trigger happy police of USA.
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Old 31-07-2015, 00:06
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Please post up links to the bib.


DuBose was stopped because his front plate was missing. Even the Prosecutor commented; Deters, who was visibly angered at points during the press conference, continued: “He [Tensing] wasn’t dealing with someone who was wanted for murder, OK? He was dealing with someone who didn’t have a front license plate. This is, in the vernacular, a pretty chicken-crap stop, all right? And – I could use harsher words.

“I’ve been doing this for 30 years,” he added. “This is the most asinine act I’ve ever seen a police officer make, totally unwarranted.”


Only a few weeks ago a black woman gets shot dead by a police officer for committing the most heinous act of failing to indicate a lane change.

I think that just about sums up the trigger happy police of USA.
Worse than that, the officer had apparently sped after her and driven right up behind her so she changed lanes to let him pass. She wouldn't have even been changing lanes if it wasn't for the cop.
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Old 31-07-2015, 00:16
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Worse than that, the officer had apparently sped after her and driven right up behind her so she changed lanes to let him pass. She wouldn't have even been changing lanes if it wasn't for the cop.
Except she wasn't shot dead, she supposedly hung herself in prison after she was wrongfully arrested. Which I seriously doubt.
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Old 31-07-2015, 00:27
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Except she wasn't shot dead, she supposedly hung herself in prison after she was wrongfully arrested. Which I seriously doubt.
Oops yes that's true. There are that many black folk getting shot by US police lately i'm losing track!
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Old 31-07-2015, 00:38
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Except she wasn't shot dead, she supposedly hung herself in prison after she was wrongfully arrested. Which I seriously doubt.
Ah yes. Good catch.
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Old 31-07-2015, 02:44
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You tell us, since you must know if that is sufficient reason to be murdered by a rent a cop
He could've been wearing a navy blue polo shirt and tan chinos that murdering pice of shit would still have shot him for no other reason than race. Which is why he is charged with murder. Keep up.
Again absolute race baiting nonsense. Why did he try to drive off?
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Old 31-07-2015, 03:19
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Nothing new

Is this really surprising?

Black life means nothing to most police men.
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